MF Doom?

nm

has he used the 'rectal hysterectomy' line before?

that singing bit's like my favourite. not terrible at all.

ya I mean his singing voice is terrible but it fits nicely with the vibe of the whole thing.

heh took a while to click that they're Doom samples in That's That.

the thom yorke remix sounds better on paper.

it sounds like a thom yorke remix. the four tet mixes put the vocals on a different bed of sounds but it still sounded good, this sounds a little jarring

it needs to be more minimal i think.

lool @ "Batty Boyz"

yeh wtf!??!??

the raekwon joint is mad srs

how many tracks from the ghost/doom album made it out last year or whenever that was still being mooted? cos i think the one on here is from those 'sessions'.

"Absolutely" and the Raekwon track kill.

This album scratches both my love of music and my super comicbook nerdom needs.

apparently the ghost/doom project is still in the works. :)

anyone know who empress sharhh is? i wondered if it was apani b but am not sure.

nm

album is too hi-fi. dude works best on shitty king geedorah beats.

i ADORE this album. it should be on everyones best of 2009 list.

― Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2)

^^ yes

It's good and enjoyable, but not anywhere near what he's capable of.

i like him a good bit, but i can't seem to connect with him at all. his songs end up sounding the same to me :/ they sound good, but the same

album is too hi-fi. dude works best on shitty king geedorah beats.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, March 30, 2009 6:16 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i haven't really liked anything he's done since Operation:Doomsday (which was my favourite shit in the world in 99/00) cos it all sounds too hi-fi compared to that. guess this new one isn't gonna change that? :(

king geedorah and mmm food were mostly self produced and therefore also his best albums.

mmm food peters out towards the end though, but yeah, side 1 is killer. i think king geedorah is my favourite doom, overall.

i never liked the vv albums cos the beats were boring/too standard underground rap. madvillainy worked cos madlibs beats are kinda undernourished/crumbling too though doom just has an altogether more dilapidated approach to beats which is why his own self produced material works best.

ive a feeling anyone expecting BLT to be like the first taste of a whole new wave of new doom projects is gonna be let down. i dont think doom is really coming back, hes just getting a bit of pocket money.

Unfortunately I think ^^^ is totally OTM. The Doom of 2002, 2003 is gone for good it seems. I'm halfway through my first listen of Born Like This and liking it pretty well so far. My only complaint, and a very minor one at that, is that there seems to be more vocal samples of him talking in silly voices than direct rips from TV shows and comics. I mean, those are still there too, but in less amounts than I really like. His flow on "Gazillion Ear" is crazy good though.

i never liked the vv albums cos the beats were boring/too standard underground rap. madvillainy worked cos madlibs beats are kinda undernourished/crumbling too though doom just has an altogether more dilapidated approach to beats which is why his own self produced material works best.

― Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:15 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

do you even know what the words you are typing mean?

king geedorah and mmm food were mostly self produced and therefore also his best albums.

― Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:05 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

um, his debut?

Well, Vic Vaughan is by far my favorite. Dark and inventive. Normally I have a lot of time for Doom, but (esp. following lip syncing debacle) it's clear he's struggling for scraps. Some of these are 3 years old, the Rae beat has been used...5 times? Vaughan is mixed too high over old beats (suggesting he was barely in the studio) and there's no concept. 4/10.

c'mon that lip syncing thing was classic.

Yeah, but this recovered piece of shit is not.

it's all right, damn

Operation Doomsday > King Geedorah > MMM Food > Madvilliany > Born Like This > Danger Doom > Viktor Vaughn > VV2

er, weirdest ranking ever.

VV>OD>MMMF>KG>MV>DD>VV2>BLL

I'M GONNA CALL YOU DAVE MATTHEWS BECAUSE YOU'RE TRIPPING BILLIES

born like lis

this record is great. fuck you all?

the Rae beat has been used...5 times?

Eh, "UFO" is almost as much of a stock breakbeat as "Funky Drummer" or "Apache" or "Impeach the President". At that point, it's so much a part of the fabric of rap production that any "recycling" criticisms seem beyond the pale.

Rev otm criticizing that for being overused misses the point - u can bet he is plenty familiar w it & was using that break intentionally

the rae/ufo track is great. youd think it would sound tired, but it doesnt.

"do you even know what the words you are typing mean?"

you obviously dont.

"um, his debut?"

and his debut yeah. i forgot that one.

"Operation Doomsday > King Geedorah > MMM Food > Madvilliany > Born Like This > Danger Doom > Viktor Vaughn > VV2"

totally otm.

surprised at the hate for the first VV, up there with Geedorah & Madvillainy for me. the second one really is a stinker though, ugh.

It's always good to hear ESG's UFO. I never get tired of hearing it on hip hop records but the fact that it makes up one of the few outstanding tracks on BLT speaks volumes. The sample should just be there to throw newer shit into sharp relief. But the newer shit is just that . . . shit.

Also that Batty Boy track is piss poor. I can't work out what's worse, the suggestion that gay men should be battered with baseball bats or the will-this-do? delivery.

from what ive read doom just did this album cos the label was on his back. and cos he needed a bit of money. but even in spite of that, its still a good album. even when hes maybe not trying super hard, dooms still a really great writer.

And where is the source for that bit of journalism

I liked the first vv too

Operation Doomsday > Mr. Hood > Madvillainy > Bl_ck B_st_rds > VV1 > Geedorah > Ghostface's verse on The Mask/The Madvillainy Remix EPs/The Madlib remix of Sofa King/all that other shit > DangerDoom > Born Like This >>>> VV2.

Pretty much everything up until Madvillainy is a classic in his career though, while DD/BLT are still good.

I agree pretty much with that

And where is the source for that bit of journalism

― autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 2 April 2009 00:16 (8 hours ago

Also that Batty Boy track is piss poor. I can't work out what's worse, the suggestion that gay men should be battered with baseball bats or the will-this-do? delivery.

― Doran, Wednesday, April 1, 2009 3:20 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I don't think you get the song.

And where is the source for that bit of journalism

― autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 2 April 2009 00:16 (8 hours ago

― wilter, Wednesday, April 1, 2009 5:55 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

listing favorites is not journalism...

what?

I just wanted to know about the label-on-his-back story

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/jul/06/leeds-hospital-trust-apologises-after-rapper-mf-doom-died-in-its-care?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

saw this earlier.
i had no idea re him having any connection to leeds.

Yeah i know. Wondering if he was living in the UK at the time so that he could get NHS treatment? Anyway what a sad and somewhat mundane way to go :(

so many mysteries surrounded his death - like, wasn't he supposed to have died some time before his family made it public?

this story, though... what a waste. what a tragedy.

Yeah i know. Wondering if he was living in the UK at the time so that he could get NHS treatment? Anyway what a sad and somewhat mundane way to go :(

― NickB, Thursday, July 6, 2023 1:52 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he was born in the uk, grew up and lived in the us and then was deported later in life iirc

knew he was born in london, didn't know about the deportation though. any idea why?

seems complicated but partially because paperwork was too expensive/never filed when he was a kid, and then a buncha stuff never went through as it should've when he was an adult, plus he kept getting arrested, seems pretty kafkaesque

https://pitchfork.com/features/article/untangling-mf-dooms-lifelong-struggle-with-the-us-immigration-system/

oh thanks!

Slick Rick similarly faced deportation to the UK (Jesus, where IS he?)