World Cup 2014

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Bosnia inept at governing ya

leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 June 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link

Somewhere between the robbed goal, Bosnian odd quasi-performance, Spahic's behaviour during goal/ongoing defense mishaps/ca 100 crazy passes/covering his mouth with his hand while talking to the linesman after conceding (seriously, what was that about?), Nigeria being the Nigeria from 'Nigeria vs. Scotland' and Sepp Blatter visiting _this_ game in person, this game has some cool manipulation conspiracy potential...

livin' el Vidal loco (grauschleier), Sunday, 22 June 2014 00:51 (nine years ago) link

covering the mouth is the new thing after lipreading controversies of yore

leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 June 2014 00:52 (nine years ago) link

Why then?

livin' el Vidal loco (grauschleier), Sunday, 22 June 2014 00:56 (nine years ago) link

I mean, sure, at free kicks it has maybe some far-fetched relevance, but in this situation...?

livin' el Vidal loco (grauschleier), Sunday, 22 June 2014 00:57 (nine years ago) link

idk but I'd guess he was calling the official ten types of gowl

leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 June 2014 01:01 (nine years ago) link

I'm pretty sure there's an interesting argument to be made about why 5 at the back is leading to more goals but that article really isn't making it and the bits about David Luiz are just bizarre.

Five defenders necessitates ceding control of midfield especially if you play two upfront, but is also means breaking quickly, more end to end football and more goals. But the teams playing five at the back have been harder to break down nobetheless.

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 June 2014 10:06 (nine years ago) link

Poor balance of midfields is more of an issue -most teams either too stodgy (Brazil, Holland) or too lightweight (Croatia, England, arguably Spain now) and teams who can really press in that bit of the park are doing well.

Brazil don't even play five at the back and doing so would probably play to David Luiz's strengths (athleticism, dynamism, bringing the ball forward out of defence) rather than exposing his weaknesses (being really quite stupid) but still, Brazil couldn't break down Mexico's back five.

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 June 2014 10:14 (nine years ago) link

that article is really weird.

the 5 at the back style seems a lot more mobile than other tactics of recent years, with two holding midfielders you have fluidity around a stable base, tiki-taka maximises ball movement but not really player movement, but this kind of post-bielsa wing back thing is maybe trying to maximise movement in every respect. but i dunno that that's necessarily a more attacking way of going about things.

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 22 June 2014 10:19 (nine years ago) link

Strange this morning watching the highlights of Italia 90 and although it feels like another age - there are people still in shirt and tie in the crowd, and it was still WEST Germany at that point - it also feels like the start of the modern era in a lot of ways. Pressuring referees into giving cards and surrounding him following fouls is in full swing, and going down around the box looking for a free kick was pretty much how the final was played. The interesting thing was how the crowd reacted; whistles and jeers saw the players off at half time, with the crowd feeling they'd been denied a 'proper' match.

Rabona not glue (aldo), Sunday, 22 June 2014 10:26 (nine years ago) link

Also there are a lot of great attacking players in this World Cup and, unlike 2002 and 2010 and arguably 06 as well, most of them have come through the end of a domestic season largely unscathed and not struggling for form or fitness. Abiding memory of recent World Cups has been watching big names looking jaded and only Argentina and Spain really seem to be suffering there.

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 June 2014 10:30 (nine years ago) link

lol that article. finally a soccerball lex has risen

r|t|c, Sunday, 22 June 2014 10:37 (nine years ago) link

Haha

In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 22 June 2014 10:52 (nine years ago) link

Has anyone done a breakdown of minutes played during the past season and World Cup squads?

pandemic, Sunday, 22 June 2014 10:59 (nine years ago) link

I'll not be mourning the departure of Bosnia as, during last night's game, the fact that the commentator constantly referred to Dzeko as Edin Dzeko (as mentioned upthread) began to seriously affect my enjoyment of the football (and my mental health)

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 June 2014 12:07 (nine years ago) link

Tydlesley really likes saying Lavezzi's first name as well. tbf 'Ezequiel' is fun to say.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 June 2014 12:09 (nine years ago) link

Is it Tyldesley who pronounces Clichy as Cleeeeessheeeeeeeee, with about 19 e's? ITV seem to have a new commentator, who they give the lesser games to, who is a total Partridge clone.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 June 2014 12:11 (nine years ago) link

That Edin Dzeko thing was getting right on my tits as well. I think we did a thing once about players who it is impossible to name just by their surname (Ruel Fox, Charlie Adam etc), and it turns out Dzeko is one of those.

ailsa, Sunday, 22 June 2014 12:24 (nine years ago) link

Kevin Kilbane managed it!

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 June 2014 12:26 (nine years ago) link

There was some discussion of this upthread, but "Edin Dzeko" isn't even mellifluous or anything

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 June 2014 12:27 (nine years ago) link

yeah it is

r|t|c, Sunday, 22 June 2014 12:48 (nine years ago) link

btw can I just

the espn app ON IPHONE has been totally life changing

watching games in HD on an iPad in my depressing little work room has been great, I thought I was gonna miss the bulk of the matches and I think I have actually managed to see most if not live then in replay? that shouldn't be possible as a first year resident but there you go

gbx, Sunday, 22 June 2014 13:58 (nine years ago) link

How does that app compare to the Univision Deportes app?

That's How Strong My Dub Is (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 June 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link

Haven't used the Univision app but a buddy of mine that doesn't have cable (which is required for the espn one) loves it

gbx, Sunday, 22 June 2014 14:37 (nine years ago) link

Hope Akinfeev recovers better than Casillas.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 June 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link

Are they allowing Belgians in MaracanĂ£ now? smh

StanM, Sunday, 22 June 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link

hakka the dog vs jonathon pearce? hmm

pandemic, Sunday, 22 June 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link

hacker every time imo

john wahey (NickB), Sunday, 22 June 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link

No Vertonghen.

pandemic, Sunday, 22 June 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link

he looks dazed to me

pandemic, Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link

football really doesn't care about concussions

pandemic, Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link

Playing for Sherwood is hazardous for your international career

anonanon, Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link

Sorry to interrupt but I've just heard that it's very likely that Van Gaal will be playing Kuyt tomorrow, and no Depay or Huntelaar. Kuyt... Where's our God now?

In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link

This makes me so happy

pandemic, Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link

see jose he can track back

pandemic, Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link

if belgium could cross for shit they would be dangerous

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

sidenote: just started listening to Men in Blazers, I dig it!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

pretty stodgy game so far

john wahey (NickB), Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, bit frustrating to watch tbh

In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

Vermaelen broken again

pandemic, Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:31 (nine years ago) link

mertens is straight clowning the russian LB

pandemic, Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

Lukaku having a very difficult game, again.

In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

never appreciated how comically large fellaini is

gbx, Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

sacking this off to watch the replay of the Grrmany-Ghana match, think i'll enjoy that more

Windsor Davies, Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

Bravo Kompany

In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link

Yes it's p much end to end but the decision making and execution in the final third are terrible from both teams but esp Belgium.

ewar woowar (or something), Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

HOW DO YOU MISS THAT???????

pandemic, Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link

efan ekoku happily compounding the boredom

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link

I think I hate this Belgium team, one or two real talents, a load of overhyped EPL landfill, just complacent shit hallumphing around the pitch, a desolate Boxpark abandoned by all but the most unthinking of hipsters.

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link


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