We need a thread for the FARGO TV show yah? Oh, yah!

also weird to call a show where a crying, bound dude gets blown away by cops while a lonely choir boy sings in the background "fun"

if anything i wish the show had more fun stuff like malvo goading the kid to piss in the gas tank

feel like fun was mostly out the door by the time ItsAlwaysSunny guy and adam goldberg were dispatched

lotta critique there

croup otm

i feel like at a certain point they should've just gone 50 Shades Of Gray and disassociated the show entirely from its supposed source material. probably before the last few episodes where it just became Corky St. Clair: Unstoppable Killing Machine.

Lol

also weird to call a show where a crying, bound dude gets blown away by cops while a lonely choir boy sings in the background "fun"
― da croupier, Thursday, June 19, 2014

so what was the riddle again?
what was the point of the glove story, I'm tired and idgi were the gloves the wives
I hope they stop with the 'answer a question with a seemingly unrelated story/riddle/etc' next time around

i didn't totally get the gloves thing at first, but i think it's something about selfishness - on some level it's absurd to throw your glove out the window in hopes it will find its pair, but it's just as absurd to keep one glove. and lester is the kind of person who couldn't even fathom letting go of that remaining glove, destroying more and more lives in a futile attempt to protect himself

the gloves story made sense -- the other riddle i didn't hear the answer he figured out before he shot up malvo tho?

the "why do humans see so many shades of green" bit his wife solved way back

xps da croupier, that makes sense
not really fair that he got that one about the fox and the rabbit, he already did that one in The Office

on some level it's absurd to throw your glove out the window in hopes it will find its pair, but it's just as absurd to keep one glove. and lester is the kind of person who couldn't even fathom letting go of that remaining glove, destroying more and more lives in a futile attempt to protect himself

THANK YOU, that metaphor was bugging the shit out of me, I knew it was somehow related to his involvement in the deaths but I couldnt slot it in.

I did enjoy this all the way thru tbh, but I was bothered by the fact Gus killed the guy and got a commendation for bravery for it. Um, he's not a cop anymore. He hid in wait for the guy in his own home. I dont care what Malvo did, thats straight up murder!

It was a most cowardly un-rewardworthy type of execution, it isn't like Malvo had a chance as he was peacefully tending to his severe leg injury, unarmed and some home invader fucker comes out of the shadows and homicides him repeatedly! I still enjoyed it as well, it was a good series.

I was bothered by the fact Gus killed the guy and got a commendation for bravery for it. Um, he's not a cop anymore. He hid in wait for the guy in his own home. I dont care what Malvo did, thats straight up murder!

― the Bronski Review (Trayce), Monday, June 23, 2014 12:50 AM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well molly and gus both have practice covering up the consequences of gus' itchy trigger finger so maybe they came up with some story about malvo threatening them or something. i mean, i agree, they kind of would have had to because otherwise it's like "you did what??"

am i forgetting a moment earlier where they established that this was malvo's home? like, wasn't he staying at a hotel in the first episode? a year later, does he actually have a full-on abode in the area or was this somewhere he was just hiding in?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

if it was set in the modern era i'd just assume he decided to AirBnB since the hotel didn't go so well last time, but it's allegedly 2007

Well I used home in the loose sense, it was his hideout I guess.

still funny that he bothered to get a "hideout" when chasing lester back from vegas, considering his previous lodging when he was in town

could be some kinda company safehouse too

wouldn't he have stayed there the year before?

and neither time was he there on company business - he got into an accident leaving st paul the first time, was chasing lester the second. not really any "company" business in Bemidji

Maybe we were meant to infer it was some random's house he killed to hole up in.

i still wish airbnb was a possiblity

TBH the snowmobile chase at the end was comically pathetic. Maybe that was the point.

the snowmobile chase was up there with the It's Always Sunny guy death as one of the moments that made me feel deeply embarrassed for the Coens that their name is attached to this in any way at all

THIN ICE

eh, they've had worse

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feel like this show's bone-headed script was constantly being rescued by tremendous acting and cinematography

bit like True Detective

Agree that the ending wasn't the most satisfying, and the whole plot of the show probably crumbles to pieces if examined too closely but nonetheless I found it consistently thoroughly enjoyable. Fantastic performances, very atmospheric, very funny.

It feels more than a little shaggy doggish after the fact.

Oh, totally. This doesn't bother me, in fact I like shaggy dog stories.

Came away with a bizarre sense of "Gus isn't good enough for Molly" ... by which I mean ... he shot someone he didn't need to and (I could have got the timeline wrong here), had he acted earlier, he could have saved some lives.

Yeah he was a total idiot.

this show is amazing—just caught up on it

soooooo much better (funnier, more creative, etc) than the "other" one-season-storyline crime show that everyone slobbered over this year

i also think it's the first show i've seen that seems really obviously influenced by the i guess you would say formal qualities of breaking bad... like the mini-movie openings, usually set in some strange location and/or featuring characters you don't know

and the dentist thing was incredible.

can't say i was super wild about the oliver platt storyline or key & peele. but otherwise A+

I liked it fine, but I think I'd appreciate shows like this so much more if I knew going in that plot/story was at the end of the showrunners' list of priorities (or, less charitably, capabilities). Because it's a lovely showcase for all of the other elements.

"Fargo > True Detective" is some Armond White shit imo

so much better.

come on. you can all safely admit you were wrong about true detective (or at least quietly pretend you never thought it was that great à la every movie critic ever and american beauty / crash / etc) now.

this show actually featured a female character who was a real human being!

I'd agree with the Fargo > TD logic at the halfway point of Fargo but honestly think I preferred the koopa's castle climax over Malvo v Mailman.

I just don't think Fargo was that fun and creative in the end and I think TD did better by its actors.

If anything, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a lot of backpedaling on the plaudits for Fargo now that it's over. I'd argue that True Detective (while not any kind of apex of the medium) was better if only for McConaughey, generally, and his shootout in the projects specifically. That scene was all time.

that scene was so ridiculous and show-offy in retrospect

Again, though, as showcases for a lot of talented people who I hope get a bunch of awesome work in the future, they're both top notch.

As far as ridiculous showoffy shoot outs go, greatly preferred tds to fargos panning around walls over corny foley art

y'know, while fargo was nice enough not to introduce its female characters T&A first, I dunno if I'd say Michelle Monaghan was playing a "real human being" any less than Tolman. and all the other women on fargo were wives-who-got-in-the-way, so i wouldn't pat it too hard on the back.

both shows were overambitionus and were disappointingly macho, but TD didn't vacillate between glibness (that fargo shootout) and dread (the fincher-esque dispatching of the alwayssunny guy) in a failed attempt to imitate the sensibility of the movie it was named after.

also, slock, if you don't wanna be compared to armond, i wouldn't respond to the comparison by describing the failings of straw-critics