My exact thought process, but you've gotta hear those and report back!
― Dreamland, Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link
On the other thread, I confirmed that on further investigation, I do know (and dislike) "Wonderful Tonight." I also realized I left "Run To You" in which is just an outright mistake. I suspect other errors may crop up, if this project lasts.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link
just FYI Atlanta classic rock radio was definitely playing Marshall Tucker Band in the 90s
― macklin' rosie (crüt), Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link
I also realized I left "Run To You" in which is just an outright mistake.
Ha, that was the one that surprised me most but I was willing to consider that there was a regional difference.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link
If every review is as good as the one you just did for Roadhouse Blues, this is going to be one of my favorite threads ever.
I'm curious, which station in Atlanta 1990-1999? Because the monolithic rock giant in Minnesota, KQRS, sounds much the same to me now as it did in the 80s. I mean, that Marshall Tucker track hasn't gone away in 40 years.
― wild-eyed, high-volume bursts of pious indignation (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link
this is going to be the Doors trying to be really BLUESY
i'm pretty sure this is the first song i ever heard where i was aware that it was in fact a blues. i hated it, as i would come to hate all blues at that point in my young life. i have since come to understand and love the blues, but not this rendering of it. i'll generally turn the dial if this comes on, unless i'm in a very particular mood, in which case the hands upon the wheeee-ul part reminds me of high school and my wannabe dazed & confused years and then, for those exact four minutes, i will be quite happy. but that doesn't happen a lot.
Is this the like standard version? The ending seems really flubbed, like too quiet on the final note, should be more Bra-DANNNnNGGGGGnnnnnnn--GUH!
this is the standard studio version. and i agree w/you.
thank you for playing!!! this project will last as long as you keep playing.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link
Z93 is my reference point here - distinct from Fox 97 (friendly oldies 60-70, lot of Beatles, Motown, Four Seasons etc.) and Oldies Lake 102 (a doomed, tiny station that played absolutely wonderful 50s nuggets). The "Z" is the giveaway that it would be a tough, hard-drivin' station.
FWIW, my list is the off-the-top-of-my-head exceptions to a much larger list posted by some dude in the poll thread - I know Marshall Tucker Band! Just not that song! I think!
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link
DC classic rock stations play "Guilty of Being White" once an hour
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link
haha i will keep playing as long as i actually have time to goof off on ILX as much as I prefer to
lol xp
― macklin' rosie (crüt), Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link
yay! xp
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link
i'm pretty sure this is the first song i ever heard where i was aware that it was in fact a blues. i hated it, as i would come to hate all blues at that point in my young life.
Love this BTW - reminds me of Tom Ewing's "UB40, I was aware, made reggae. Therefore reggae sounded like what UB40 made. I can’t have been the only one who made this logical mis-step, and I expect I wasn’t the only one who spent a decade-plus assuming they disliked reggae because of it."
My roommate tells me that at the bar we both used to frequent in Columbus, there was once a four-hour performance of "Roadhouse Blues," with musicians and vocalists trading off over time with volunteers from the audience. I would have probably been pretty into it if that was my introduction to the song, as one of my fondest musical memories from Ohio was being involved at this same bar in an extended workout of "Oh Boy."
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:38 (nine years ago) link
prob won't convince many people here, but the live version of Roadhouse Blues on American Prayer is much better than the studio version
― Iago Galdston, Friday, 20 June 2014 00:36 (nine years ago) link
^^^ he speaks the truth
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 20 June 2014 01:15 (nine years ago) link
What are you, two years old? How have you not heard these songs, on Classic Rock or anywhere else for that matter?
― Josefa, Friday, 20 June 2014 02:24 (nine years ago) link
Get off your high horse bruh
― Dreamland, Friday, 20 June 2014 02:34 (nine years ago) link
i have heard four of these songs
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 20 June 2014 02:40 (nine years ago) link
I'm not even a "classic rock fan" yet I've heard 90% of those songs without even trying
― Josefa, Friday, 20 June 2014 02:43 (nine years ago) link
Cool story
― Dreamland, Friday, 20 June 2014 02:46 (nine years ago) link
Styx – Renegade
Awww man doctor casino your life and mind will never be the same after this
― shameless pureyors of slop-on-plate (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 June 2014 04:05 (nine years ago) link
Most of these are terrible tbh apart from ZZ Top.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, June 19, 2014 4:07 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
You're high
― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Friday, 20 June 2014 04:13 (nine years ago) link
― shameless pureyors of slop-on-plate (Jon Lewis), Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:05 PM (8 minutes ago)
even if you've never heard the original, you almost certainly know the main riff from nile's "masturbating the war god"
― Pew Nornographers (contenderizer), Friday, 20 June 2014 04:25 (nine years ago) link
"renegade," which we will get to in time in this thread, is a song whose main riff i frequently find myself humming at random moments, but i don't ever remember anything else about the song.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 20 June 2014 05:22 (nine years ago) link
recap: IT RULES
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 20 June 2014 05:48 (nine years ago) link
yeah it's one of those songs that always makes me want to stomp & whistle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6iKe73N3JM
― Dreamland, Friday, 20 June 2014 05:50 (nine years ago) link
since "renegade" is on everybody's mind right now, let's make that today's listening experiment, dr. casino.
SONG #2: STYX "RENEGADE"
(audio/video in dreamland's post immediately above)
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 20 June 2014 13:18 (nine years ago) link
huh, I didn't know I knew this song, but I do, of course
is that a Division Bell statue earring in the still in that youtube?
― Euler, Friday, 20 June 2014 13:31 (nine years ago) link
The first time I tuned into a classic rock station, at the age of 11, the first song I heard was "Renegade."
― intheblanks, Friday, 20 June 2014 14:15 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, same here.
― how's life, Friday, 20 June 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link
Renegade RULESClassic rock rules KQ fuckin RUUUUULES
― shameless pureyors of slop-on-plate (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 21 June 2014 00:20 (nine years ago) link
hi-five
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 June 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link
I have never ever heard Styx in my life. ever. I think.
only heard about 25% of these songs and I can barely remember how half of them go.
I don't live in America though, so that might be why.
I enjoy the classic rock I have heard though, so Dr. Casino's experience isn't totally unique.
― president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Saturday, 21 June 2014 09:07 (nine years ago) link
It's not unique: I'm sure my parents wouldn't recognize any of these songs. It is a little surprising, though, that someone could have listened to this radio format a lot in the US/Canada, and be something of a fan, without knowing any of these songs, esp most of the ones that contenderizer singles out, given that they are frequently played on the format.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 21 June 2014 12:47 (nine years ago) link
Renegade: Was worried I was semi-busted, certain things did sound naggingly familiar (especially the opening intonation). The big crunchy guitar part also rings a bell - but I'm sort of convinced I'm actually thinking of something on Physical Graffiti (?). Before finishing this post I listened to it a second time and I'm now pretty sure I don't know this.
So, this is one of those songs where the guitar riff and the vocal line match each other a lot. I'm usually not that into that, but at least here it gives some oomph to the parts where they break apart are pretty sweet - the "HIGHNESS OF MY HEAD" (?) for example. Oh mannn, this air-guitar moment right around 2:00, that's sweet!
The organ player is kinda bugging me off and on, feels busy, fussy, gotta fill the space - makes me appreciate the sorta goofy and robotic blurts of same in say, the verses of "Abacab." Oooooh, the WRREREEEEEEEEE synth sounds at 2:50 are awesome.
The Queen stomp-along after that with the falsettos is also great! Shades of "Come Sail Away" obviously, I think I like these guys best when they step up into being kinda alien/fantasy-ish and lose the trudging workaday dear mama, wanted man steeze, or maybe they need that for the other moments to come into focus...this seems very much like, first half is kinda lumpy and the vocals are distractingly hysterical on top of that, but then in the second half they're all going in and it clicks. I dig "Blue Collar Man" but it'd be better if it erupted into these sci-fi fireworks more. Overall I would give this a thumbs up, mainly for the second half.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 22 June 2014 02:35 (nine years ago) link
"high price on my head" iirc?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 22 June 2014 02:45 (nine years ago) link
But great review!
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 22 June 2014 02:46 (nine years ago) link
My second guess was "hairbrush on my head," like a "no comb has touched my head" kinda thing, he's a renegade with poor hygiene.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 22 June 2014 02:50 (nine years ago) link
Tommy totally kills that 'HIGH PRICE ON MY HEAD'
sidenote that line is fking murder to sing on Rockband, fyi
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 June 2014 02:51 (nine years ago) link
xpost irl lols
The scream before the band kicks in is the best thing Dennis DeYoung has ever done, or will ever do.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 22 June 2014 02:53 (nine years ago) link
otfm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 June 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link
the Physical Graffiti song you're thinking of is probably Trampled Under Foot, which does sound pretty similar.
― Aglet, Sunday, 22 June 2014 03:47 (nine years ago) link
TS: DeYoung being The Renegade vs. Phil Lynott being The Warrior.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 22 June 2014 03:49 (nine years ago) link
Xpost yeah that's it, totally!
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 22 June 2014 03:50 (nine years ago) link
Great analysis
I (selfishly) want to hear thoughts on Limelight, Let My Love Open The Door, Stay, and ROUNDABOUT
― Dreamland, Sunday, 22 June 2014 08:43 (nine years ago) link
great thread and i am wondering if like 50% of theses songs you're gonna totally be 'oh i know this' / 'i never knew [x] did this' and/or 'so that's what this is called'
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 22 June 2014 10:51 (nine years ago) link
Too true, and if it has never been used as a funky drummer type sample I'm going to work on that.
YYYEAHHHHHH
― shameless pureyors of slop-on-plate (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 22 June 2014 12:59 (nine years ago) link
Just started watching Freaks and Geeks for the first time on netflix last night. Both Renegade and Come Sail Away, among other classic rock jams.
― how's life, Sunday, 22 June 2014 13:07 (nine years ago) link
xxpost yeah, a lot of people probably think of, say, "Casey Jones" "Life During Wartime" and "Peace Frog" as "That Riding that train/High on Cocaine song" "This Ain't No Party, This Ain't No Disco" and "Blood on the Streets in the Town of Chicago"
or whatever a casual listener thinks "Deacon Blues" is called
― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Sunday, 22 June 2014 13:09 (nine years ago) link
Both Renegade and Come Sail Away, among other classic rock jams
"Lady" figures prominently as well.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 22 June 2014 13:24 (nine years ago) link
pretty lame first-draft lyrics.the hell you say >:(
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 September 2019 01:18 (four years ago) link
i mean it's not Foreigner-level, but it just never adds up to much of anything... most of the lines just name people and places and the others are like "One thing for certain it ain't never gonna stop," "And it went on yesterday and it's going on tonight" etc. he may be one of Chuck's children but it's for the licks and not the lyrics. his voice takes it a long way.
― weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 19 September 2019 12:56 (four years ago) link
Okay, before this explodes into a rockin' barroom brawl: Fire Down Below!
Yeah, this is all right. Maybe I'm predisposed to like it based on this other quality Seger, but it's sounding really good on headphones, nice solid recording of some nice solid playing. Not so into this 'list of people' kinda songwriting, adds up to a kind of bland scenario: they're different people, but they're alike! Seems like you could get to the same point with a little more interrelationships in the story, the banker could be casting shade at the poor man before he's taken over by the fire down below. What's this about again? Strippers? Or they're not all at the same place, I guess, some are in Berkeley and some are in Queens? Somewhere there's somebody ain't treatin' somebody right... wait, what's going on? I thought the fire was going to be about sex but is it actually wrath? What these guys have in common is not treating somebody right?
Wow, that was baffling. The one! two! three! into the solo has renewed my interest though. Another kinda sudden ending - my one lasting beef with Rock & Roll Never Forgets (now that I've listened to it like seven times in the last twelve hours) is how it just wanders away from the last chorus and ends without fanfare - surely if rock and roll never forgets, it'd show the 31-year-old sweet sixteen a better time than that. In this one it just seems like they ran out of energy, time or ideas - gimme a little more solo, a little more 'fire' at least.
Second listen, hoping I can follow the story a little better. The rock-n-rolling is probably strong enough to carry it just as an instrumental, with Seger's rasping as just another instrument, so in any case this isn't killing my interest in picking up the album. So, okay, there are street lights, here come these girls... what is this all about? Are they going to see a band? Why would all these lawyers and bankers be there? I feel like I'm lost in a pronoun here, the "it" that's never gonna stop. I do like that it happens in Moline, and I guess at this point I'm pretty sure this is about prostitution, an "oldest profession" kinda things... which makes the implications of bad treatment kinda grosser. At best I'd guess it's that the johns' wives aren't "treating them right" sexually but that's not very appealing as a narrative. Yeah, blame Mrs. Lockhorn... yeesh.
Thumbs up for the band, thumbs down for the lame lyric. "Fire down below" is too strong a phrase to get wasted on a lame cliche. I can't believe I'm saying this, but it really would have done well as another paean to the eternal appeal of rock: get all these horny men and women to the Bob Seger concert and let the music stoke the fires. Last verse could wrap up how the night ends up: Steve and Sally on the pinball table / Jack and Jill are in the john, etc. With a little rewrite here and there it could also have made a good Tums commercial.
I'm not sure I know this song, but from a reading of the lyrics it seems pretty clear this is about guys picking up prostitutes (and perhaps murdering them?)
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 September 2019 13:45 (four years ago) link
a murder mystery would work well with "even the butler, he's got something to prove"
― weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 19 September 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link
although "Honey, how come you don't MOVE?" takes on a rather grim cast
i gotta say this channel is pretty much classic rock heaven:
http://www.youtube.com/user/MainSqueezeMusic/videos
― sock fingering, baby (rushomancy), Thursday, 19 September 2019 23:44 (four years ago) link
Looking back, I feel like this thread was a real turning point in my listening habits, and embracing the fact that a lot of what I most like to listen to is well-produced mainstream pop-rock from the 60s-80s. At home, it's the mellower and/or art-pop end of things, where I can just bask in the details of the recordings and the melodies. On the road, or maybe doing chores, I'm looking for the big riffs and fist-pumping hooks. I always liked all this stuff, but it's funny to think back to when a thread like this made sense for me! Thanks again, fact checking cuz, and everyone else for playing along.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 14 March 2022 17:37 (two years ago) link
Oh, and the Deacon Blues session was definitely a huge step towards me becoming a Dan fan, when previously I only really knew a few singles and the Yacht Rock show material.
thank YOU for playing along, doctor c! you taught me, and i assume plenty of others, quite a bit about songs we thought we knew. i loved this journey (your aversion to journey with a capital J notwithstanding!).
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 14 March 2022 18:09 (two years ago) link
:D :D :D
"Roundabout" was another big watershed track... I bought a bunch of Yes albums in the months after that, and it helped open me up to a lot of other proggy records, like Meddle. I was also starting to explore jazz for the first time in the same years and in general my ears these days are much more interested than they used to be in specifically drinking in what the instruments are doing and how they're playing off each other as a "live" unit, even when they may not have actually been recorded that way.
Not pegging all of that to this thread... but still, something significant did happen here, amidst all my wordy and naive efforts to get ahold of these songs!
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 14 March 2022 18:29 (two years ago) link
man I am so bummed that all of Sandy's amazing pix are lost to time, can anyone repost them by chance?
― thinkmanship (sleeve), Thursday, 14 July 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link