More Dave Sim Batshittery.

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the batshit part: he expects this to carry on for decades after his death

rage against martin sheen (sic), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 14:49 (five years ago) link

any idea how much dough was he pulling in in the mid-80s? I know he's broke/an ascetic now but back then he seemed to maintain this whole rock-star image, back cover photos of him pulling up to conventions in limos, staying in fancy hotels, bimbos hanging on him... was that all just bullshit or was he really rolling in it?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:38 (five years ago) link

dude's arc seems like a total tragedy in retrospect

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:39 (five years ago) link

"bimbos"?

seems like the proper nomenclature for a dave sim thread

Mordy, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:43 (five years ago) link

Aside from the pleasures of that kind of lifestyle, think Sim also wanted to show other comics people the riches they could earn from self-publishing (but this was at a time when creators on high-royalty earning corporate comics were also earning small fortunes - I know of one penciller who bought a house from the royalties they earned from just one single, high profile Marvel/DC crossover comic)

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:48 (five years ago) link

i'm curious. can you say what book it was?

xp what should they be called, Simbos?

Nhex, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 16:51 (five years ago) link

"bimbos"?

not referring to Deni Loubert tbc

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 16:56 (five years ago) link

"bimbos"?

― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu)

Voids.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 17:09 (five years ago) link

lol

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 17:50 (five years ago) link

forks, it's not for the public prints, but i will tell you in person the next time i visit new york!

was also told - second-hand - that another very well known mainstream comics writer bought a jet out of the royalties they earned - true or not, the point is that there was an awful lot of cash sloshing around comics in the 1980s. i think the irony is is that these days, with the royalty system all but defunct, you really have to own your work - and sell it to TV/movies - to earn similar riches. so dave sim was basically...right?

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 17:54 (five years ago) link

oh man

http://www.cerebusfangirl.com/artists/nftp/

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 22:46 (five years ago) link

not referring to Deni Loubert tbc

no, you're referring to Dawn Nash ("Zee")

rage against martin sheen (sic), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 23:57 (five years ago) link

Aside from the pleasures of that kind of lifestyle, think Sim also wanted to show other comics people the riches they could earn from self-publishing

Also this was not necessarily a "lifestyle" - conventions weren't a 40-times-ayear proposition in the 80s because the distribution system worked, his expenses at home were probably minimal: he booked car services in other cities, but that would get him from interview to interview to store signing to hotel to convention and be a business expense, and he doesn't drive, so at home got/gets around by walking; when he and Ger went to Hawaii for a week and spent it drawing pages for the book on the balcony of their hotel, that would also likely be written off.

rage against martin sheen (sic), Thursday, 19 June 2014 04:52 (five years ago) link

NFTP from 74 mentions Skidmore by name. Something in my eye.

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 19 June 2014 08:29 (five years ago) link

Love how ILC springs to life whenever Dave's insanity is brought up.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 19 June 2014 12:54 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

I wonder what Dave Sim thinks of Donald Trump.

chap, Monday, 27 February 2017 22:35 (two years ago) link

well there's an alarming thought

dave is kinda like a proto-redpiller i guess. who knows, maybe cerebus could be enjoy a glorious revival in alt-right circles soon

massive ghost dumps (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 27 February 2017 23:04 (two years ago) link

https://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/cerebus_066_throwing_babies2.jpg

this pic^^^ was used to comment on a baby-related incident during the campaign: question is, sim would vote for the aardvark?

mark s, Monday, 27 February 2017 23:47 (two years ago) link

I thumbed through Cerebus in Hell at the shop the other day. it was sad.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 00:21 (two years ago) link

It's more cogent that parts of Latter Days! Alas without being good.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 00:25 (two years ago) link

maybe cerebus could be enjoy a glorious revival in alt-right circles soon

I... can totally imagine this.

chap, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 13:03 (two years ago) link

i'd never thought about it before i wrote that tbh but if alt-righters can force themselves to read mencius moldbug then cerebus will seem like a cool refreshment by comparison

massive ghost dumps (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 13:48 (two years ago) link

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced Sim was alt-right 25 years early. All boxes ticked.

chap, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 14:07 (two years ago) link

He's probably drifted away from being pigeonholed as such more recently thanks to his affinity with the other two big Abrahamic religions.

chap, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 14:09 (two years ago) link

read a couple blogs and he seems to be amused by trump rather than a devout follower

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 15:39 (two years ago) link

he's proto-alt-right to roughly the same degree as DEVO

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 16:00 (two years ago) link

that's going a little too easy on him shakes

Cognition (Remix) (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 16:23 (two years ago) link

ha I thought it was being hard on DEVO tbh

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 16:28 (two years ago) link

that too

Cognition (Remix) (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 16:33 (two years ago) link

I was browsing for dumb Dave things and instead found this - what an amazing cover.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kmwlU7KhnHc/U6Rf7F3dufI/AAAAAAAAMSA/IDTFkZdHIOo/s1600/cerebus_053.jpg

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 23:24 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

So, after the less than successful (either financially or artistically) Cerebus In Hell, Dave has announced an extension of his reprint/paste-in line with Batvark as the launch title. "He's comics' most notorious homophobe!" This cannot end well.The plan is that there'll be a CiH one-shot on the final Wednesday of every month, and follows the conclusion of the CiH 'plot' that "of course you didn't think the Gustav Dore Hell is the only one, do you?".

I am still doing the Archive Print series, which is tremendous stuff but isn't creating much actual income for Dave due to the the unpredictable nature of release - 3 years on and there have only been 6 sets of the "quarterly" edition. Latest one is delayed indefinitely because the third (fourth?) collaborator on the prints has just left, leaving nobody to do the stuff Dave doesn't like computers. There's also an idea about a more affordable version of the prints being called the Postage Stamp Collection but my head says this is dead as a concept now. SDoAR is plodding on, largely supported by Patreon but I don't know about progress because updates are locked to donors. And I'm not at that stage yet.

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 09:41 (two years ago) link


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