Rolling CHALLENGING OPINIONS thread 2008

I guess "trenchant social commentary," which is basically a subset of challenging opinions, does OK still.

ilx seems like it's always been a way to make fun of people from what i know about it

well I dint wanna say

how do you like something on this board?

with words

you really don't want to get caught liking anything

it's ilxatown

http://gawker.com/tag/challops

somebody at gawker owes roxymuzak a bonus

People will spend 8 hours a day posting to ILM and spend $50 on 'brunch' but will still gawk at buying a nice pair of headphones ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

― 龜, Monday, August 18, 2014 11:55 AM (13 minutes ago)

tomscocca [1:13 PM] "Blue Velvet is terrible" is just a challop.

drew [1:13 PM] What is a challop

Samer [1:14 PM] drew: challenging opinion, i think

barry [1:14 PM] does a challop differ from a hot take?

Tommy Craggs [1:14 PM] "blue velvet" is a favorite of film-school types because it allows them to sneer at the rubes

tomscocca [1:14 PM] A hot take is a reaction to an event.

Tommy Craggs [1:14 PM] hence: "jeff koons: the movie"

marchman [1:14 PM] A challop is a challenging opinion that the person offering it doesn't actually believe, or expect anyone to believe he believes

tomscocca [1:14 PM] A challop is something that the person carries always around waiting to deploy.

Burneko [1:15 PM] blue velvet isn't even genuinely weird; it's superficially weird, and actually boring as hell

billy haisley [1:15 PM] blue velvet is way too straightforward to be a film-school type favorite

marchman [1:15 PM] "Blue Velvet is trash" is definitely a challop

marchman [1:15 PM] It's not weird at all, it's a very conventional movie

Tommy Craggs [1:15 PM] that's a challop

marchman [1:15 PM] It's just exceptionally well done

Tommy Craggs [1:15 PM] "blue velvet is not weird" is a challop

tomscocca [1:15 PM] Never imagined Deadspin would be so fired up for Columbus Day.

barry [1:16 PM] can't we start a "Deadspin olds" room and take this conversation there?

marchman [1:16 PM] How is it weird? It's bog standard suburban anomie

drew [1:16 PM] Stop saying challop. Now I want seafood

Burneko [1:16 PM] hahah

tomscocca [1:16 PM] "Anomie" Jesus Christ Marchman.

harvilla [1:16 PM] hot take: the word 'challop' sucks

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/does-david-lynch-suck-a-pointless-discussion-1643425148

blue velvet is terrible tho

i think the first person to use the term "challops" was roxy iirc

max introduced challop to gawker recently.... very few people are on board/use it correctly

I saw "challops" in a gawker comment yesterday. iirc, I spent a second or two trying to make sense of it in context.

I disagree with harvilla on "challop"

such a lively character (84 year-old Jodorowsky), his conviction (enthusiasm, bitterness etc.) is so apparent, it's really inspiring.

― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 2 November 2014 22:29 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Such a lively character" He is like a perfect composite of all the worst aspects of every pretentious bore you could meet in a lifetime and his movies are childish fucking idiotic garbage.

― xelab, Monday, 3 November 2014 00:17 (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

xelab ✓

Eminem, unretired.

Oh pish posh. He exploited the potential of cinema much more than either Chaplin or Keaton (both of whom, yes, exploited it exceedingly well and have many masterpieces under their belts). Tati may have surpassed Lewis on that level but he lacks Lewis' grotesque personality which is essential to his life-affirming effect. I'm reminded of something Richard Barrios's disdain for Al Jolson (a key Lewis progenitor) in The Singing Fool: "Charisma, when applied this relentlessly, becomes oppressive." But yo, Richard, that's precisely why we go to the movies (or listen to, I don't know, Morrissey): to witness a gargantuan, out of control ego as a way to measure the contours of our own steady paths. If I wanted an even-keeled experience, I'd knock on my neighbor's door and ask to borrow some sugar.

P.S. Pizza is stupid and boring.

― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:32 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, nice guy with crazy cinema knowledge but this place aint big enough etc

meant to say i miss that guy, is all

Fincher a weird choice for "class of 1999" as he'd already made his best movie, The Game, two years earlier

man

oh god

ppl who boost the game like its not a straight to video piece of hokum rmde

http://www.themistermen.co.uk/images/MrWrong.jpg

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Wow the rare Type B Challops

dont knock it there's a few of us might need a donor someday yet

Wow the rare Type B Challops

― The Reverend, Friday, January 16, 2015 3:25 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's like spotting a snow leopard in the wild

Kinda feel like "conventional wisdom stated as if it was contrarianism" is the one true challops and simple contrarianism is just simple contrarianism.

In a world where Satan's influence runs high, maybe

shd be read in the voice of the video trailer guy

"conventional wisdom stated as if it was contrarianism" is mostly lux aeterna nowadays imo

Nottingham Forest boss Stuart Pearce is "not a great coach, not a great tactician and not a great motivator", says former England defender Danny Mills.

challopian levels of stating the fucking obvious from Danny Mills

why are you being so rockist about pop?

― the discussions, the slanging matches, the banter, the lot (imago), Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:05 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The best argument for Armisen not being a horrible person is his friendship with Carrie Brownstein, tbh. Hard to imagine her being best buds with the predator that Gawker article made him out to be.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, September 14, 2015 4:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

at this point i think people voting leave just hate all migrants/anyone who looks like a migrant, and that everyone voting to remain, just dont want to be seen to be hating migrants/anyone looking like a migrant. the people spoiling their ballots or not voting are the only ones you can trust.

― StillAdvance, Thursday, 23 June 2016 11:32 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Look at that. Look at it good and hard. This is where we're at.

Look at what they make you give

#Brenter

grawlix (unperson) wrote this on thread Anniversary poll: How many good songs are there on Sgt. Pepper's? on board I Love Music on May 25, 2017

Fuck the Beatles. Zero.

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten) wrote this on thread Anniversary poll: How many good songs are there on Sgt. Pepper's? on board I Love Music on May 25, 2017

These are all great songs.

C&P from blog view is always confusing to me at first

MST3K isn't very funny

Has it been noted that ilx basically discovered hot takes before they were called hot takes?

dead celebrities dont keep accumulating birthdays

im sorry its just how i feel

2008 was 12 years ago. Sorry that’s just how i feel

MST3K isn't very funny

― Karl Malone, Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:32 PM (four years ago)

i forgot about this, but still agree.

+ pulp is not a good band

It may be a challop but def agree, I think maybe you had to be there or I haven’t seen the right ones, I’m always like this is pleasant enough & has a low effort low energy vibe to match the boring 50s sci-fi films but given the affection ppl have for it… where are the laffs

The skits in between the movie bits are dire