Disney's newest movie FROZEN, loosely based on The Snow Queen

thank god my niece is a Scooby Doody kinda gal

watched it for the first time at the weekend. loved it. some of the songs are maybe a little bit by the book - quite deliberate rip of "Defying Gravity" mainly. people who hate musicals are disgusting savages tbh.

some of the animation set-pieces/painterly stills are tremendous too

and now away again before the curmudgeonly goths gather

meh. I love musicals so less of yr blanket slurs.

obv then i wasn't referring to you

thought you liked this anyway?

Over and over again in my head:

Anna: Actually we're not!
Elsa: Whaddya mean you're not?
Anna: I get the feeling you don't know!
Elsa: What do I not know?
Anna: Arrendelle's in deep deep deep deep SNOOOOOOW OHHHH OHHHHHHH!

Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2) wrote this at 2014-06-17 02:05:18.000

Right there with you on this one.

Sometimes it's just a loop of "The picture of so-PHIS-tuh-cay-tehhhhd grayyyyyyce"

I've watched this like 10 times, but I just realize last night that when Elsa leaves Arandelle, she's running on foot across ice, then Anna chases after her like five minutes later on a horse, but the next thing we know, Elsa's on top of the North Mountain and it takes Anna most of the movie to catch up to her. Weird timeline glitch.

Well, she loses the horse, wanders around for a while in the cold, getting chased by wolves probably set her back a few.

But it seems like she should have caught up before any of that happened. Like in a couple of minutes.

iirc tho she was an ice queen by then so probably surfed her way up the mountain iceman style

also, anna is mocked for wanting to marry man she has just met, ends the film in love with 2nd man she has just met (like 24 hours later).

this will have been noted upthread

Well Anna is mocked for planning to marry Hans immediately, which is different from being in love with someone.

There's a lot of time/space stuff that doesn't make sense to me in the movie. But yeah, we're probably just underestimating Elsa's magical icy steez.

The biggest problem in the plot was when they kinda just decided that Hans was evil. Seemed really badly done.

the thing that bothered me most was what elsa was gonna eat while she hid out in her ice castle

snow cones duh

the one thing

test audiences reacted negatively to a scene in which elsa methodically tracked and killed a reindeer for its meat.

even some throwaway scene would've been good like maybe after she sings let it go and the whole ice palace is erected and then there's a knock on the door and it's like the dominos guy and he's like yo here's the pizza you ordered and she's like do u have change for a 20 nm keep the tip etc to establish immersion and credibility

It bugs me in "Love is an Open Door" when they sing "it's funny how we finish each others' ... sandwiches" because a) they stole this joke from "Arrested Development" and more importantly b) it makes no sense in context because they literally just met that day, how do they know they finish each others' sandwiches? Is there a deleted scene where they eat sandwiches?

The writers claim they did not steal the joke from AD
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1xj4n5/hi_reddit_we_made_frozen_ask_us_anything/cfbt407

i knew hans was a baddie from the beginning because his lips do a kind of flat sunken thing that heroes' lips don't do. it's hard to explain. plus he's not any kind of underdog, he just shows up regally, meets cute with anna, no sweat, like he just choppered in from monaco or something.

do you think he was a baddie from the beginning? bc after the song he looks all lovelorn under the boat in the water even tho nobody but the horse is watching him. is it possible he was in love w/ her but changed his mind later on? idk i find it all very confusing.

The sandwiches bit is a clue that he's not being honest, because it's NOT what he was going to say.

i don't mean that he had bad intentions all along, but that he didn't fit the way that heroes are set up in these sorts of movies, so it was clear to me a twist of some sort was coming. plus he had villain's lips.

My sister took her 11yo daughter to the Broadway musical... for the SECOND time in SIX WEEKS today. Disney bondage is an amazing thing.

your sister sounds like a good mom, wkiw

yep

they're also building a dance studio in the house for the aspiring princess

that's awesome

sounds like an easy conversion too if she loses interest

your sister sounds like a really good mom, wkiw

otm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSLe4HuKuK0

My daughter, who hasn't talked about Frozen much the past few years, just mentioned last night that she wants to watch it again. Looks like we'll be doing that tonight and tacking this on at the end.

I'll say it again here -- my one wish for the new movie is that it treats Olaf's Frozen Adventure as non-canon!

That epic short was a real stinker.

It sure was!

Merch for the new movie has been flooding stores over the past few months... I'm sure you could piece together most of the plot just by looking at that stuff (to say nothing of storybook adaptations; though maybe those are held back until release).

I joked to my wife ("Spoiler alert!") that one of the playsets at Target is called "Anna's Funeral Pyre."

(I am known around the house for my sense of humor.)

havent been following was this Frozen film popular with young girls then or what

I'm seeing it tonight. My daughter is super-stoked. I'm cautiously hopeful.

There's one line in the trailer where Anna's like "I climbed the North Mountain, survived a frozen heart, and saved you from my ex-boyfriend..." where I just hope this thing isn't overburdened with self-referential expository dialogue.

i love Frozen so i'll be doing my best to never watch this one

Yeah, I don’t have high hopes... They’ve haven’t yet known how (or wanted?) to do anything new with the idea (both the shorts have leaned heavily on revisiting familiar elements from the movie; though I do like Frozen Fever).

Plus, this looks like a “journey of discovery” plot, which feels like kind of a punt. Trolls World Tour may end up doing a better job with the same basic concept!

 I just hope this thing isn't overburdened with self-referential expository dialogue.

Listening to the soundtrack and there are outtakes that beat most of the songs in the actual movie. This movie had the potential to be a lot better at one point.

Lol, you mean like before they made it? My older kid is seeing it right now, I'll report back with a 15-year old's perspective.

Daughter's report: the story is forgettable/not important; the songs are good, though not as good as the first movie or "Moana;" a lot of the movie is really funny, especially the snowman; there is one sad part. She liked it.

Seeing this tmrrw; will report back. (I’ve consistently heard that it’s kind of sad; the “‘80s-style” song is funny; and the story is somewhat confusing.)