it took me years and years and years to fall for "to be over" - but after all, my soul surrendered. i no longer doubt my part. i am ready to be loved
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, June 13, 2014 11:45 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I didn't take me years to fall for it, but I do remember the first few times I listened to this album through, I kinda wanted the same vibe as the previous two tracks to continue. But definitely now, I think the relative calm of 'To Be Over' is necessary to the album. It ends the album on a really uplifting note.
― ...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 01:41 (nine years ago) link
This one is top 3 for me (along with Fragile and Close to the Edge); one of those albums that seems crazier every time you hear it. "Sound Chaser" is the one that always makes my jaw drop, particularly in the way they take that sort of demented funk riff (could be Parliament if it had like five less notes) and just toy around with it in all sorts of ways, breaking it all the way down, then speeding up into oblivion, playing it on every instrument (including CHA CHA CHAAA CHA CHA!!), and so on. But really this whole album is brilliant and a great capper on the one-of-a-kind run that Yes had from 71 to 74. I know I'm cynical about these guys a lot but I try not to forget just how wonderful and trailblazing they were in those years, even Tales is pretty damn great if you ignore the baggage and just listen. I do find it funny that despite Yes releasing some two dozen live albums in their career that they hardly hit these songs at all, it's almost as if they're too difficult to actually play live.
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 03:49 (nine years ago) link
though this solo piano performance of "Sound Chaser" is nuts and only highlights just how insane that tune is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqR0AP7A_l4
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 03:50 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ-ktGaWYlg
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 04:19 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmLDdHhwB5A
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 04:23 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MRetcp22uc
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 04:24 (nine years ago) link
A friend in high school had the Complete Yes sheet music book and the Relayer charts looked like those Lovecraft books that drive people crazy.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 04:26 (nine years ago) link
I do find it funny that despite Yes releasing some two dozen live albums in their career that they hardly hit these songs at all, it's almost as if they're too difficult to actually play live.
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 03:49 (8 hours ago) Permalink
I suspect that they do find it difficult to play these songs live, even though they have played some of the material live in the past. There was an interview with Steve Howe a couple of months ago where he hinted at this...
Have you discussed doing other albums besides doing ‘Fragile’?Well yeah, I mean, given more time…we’ve been so busy with the record and also the touring getting around to Canada and Europe with the first three albums that we’ve ever done in one show. They wanted it, so we start with it, but originally we thought by this year we’d be doing three different albums. That’s quite adventurous and that’s why we’re changing albums gradually if you like.Obviously, we could do ‘Drama,’ ‘Fragile’ and the one that everybody wants to hear is ‘Relayer.’ But we’re not ready for that yet. ‘Relayer’ would be a heck of a challenge. We’d most probably need many weeks of rehearsal and preparation to do that. So at the moment we haven’t got the time or the inclination yet to do something like that. But I’d love to do some of ‘Tales,’ I think [playing sides] one and four would be a great way of doing ‘Tales,’ because it’s the beginning and the end.But I don’t know — we’re not going to do any of those things at the moment. I’m not even sure what we’re going to do next year, because we’re not even talking about next year. This year we’ve mapped out loosely what we’re going to do.
Well yeah, I mean, given more time…we’ve been so busy with the record and also the touring getting around to Canada and Europe with the first three albums that we’ve ever done in one show. They wanted it, so we start with it, but originally we thought by this year we’d be doing three different albums. That’s quite adventurous and that’s why we’re changing albums gradually if you like.Obviously, we could do ‘Drama,’ ‘Fragile’ and the one that everybody wants to hear is ‘Relayer.’ But we’re not ready for that yet. ‘Relayer’ would be a heck of a challenge. We’d most probably need many weeks of rehearsal and preparation to do that. So at the moment we haven’t got the time or the inclination yet to do something like that. But I’d love to do some of ‘Tales,’ I think [playing sides] one and four would be a great way of doing ‘Tales,’ because it’s the beginning and the end.
But I don’t know — we’re not going to do any of those things at the moment. I’m not even sure what we’re going to do next year, because we’re not even talking about next year. This year we’ve mapped out loosely what we’re going to do.
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/steve-howe-interview-2014/
― ...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 12:59 (nine years ago) link
And that piano performance of 'Sound Chaser' is just gloriously nuts!
― ...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 13:02 (nine years ago) link
As is the band performance from 1975. Wow.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 13:04 (nine years ago) link
Yeah... amazing to think that there was a time that this music could go Top 10 on both sides of the Atlantic.
The band also make playing the compositions look effortless in those 1975 performance clips. It kinda fascinates me that there sometimes comes a point where a musician struggles with compositions that he or she had written and performed.
― ...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link
ELP is the band that most famously fell off the ability cliff and couldn't play their own stuff. Whereas I saw VDGG last year, in their mid sixties, and it was maybe the most ferocious gig I've ever attended
― avicii usque ad arse (imago), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 13:42 (nine years ago) link
That's been the frustration with Yes, hasn't it? ELP fell off the cliff for a few reasons - Emerson's numerous botched hand surgeries, Lake's voice deteriorating almost overnight, the band's inability to just jettison members that weren't pulling their weight. Yes maybe weren't up to Relayer speed but listening to say Keys to Ascension it's clear that they still had the ability to play this stuff, they just weren't interested in writing it anymore
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 14:02 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwUNImtLV9c
― ...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 14:52 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scuhTWQ842M
― ...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22NQm-wnUa4
Has anyone here heard the recent stereo remaster or surround sound version of this yet?
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Saturday, 31 January 2015 14:05 (nine years ago) link
I'd like to hear that too, I've always thought the original was a little too thin and farty sounding.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 31 January 2015 16:35 (nine years ago) link
steven wilson has a golden touch
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 31 January 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link
+1
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 21 February 2015 04:20 (nine years ago) link
i feel sorry for people who build their identity around their interest in / love of music but can't or won't "get" this record. it's really sad
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 21 February 2015 04:52 (nine years ago) link
Silly human race
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Saturday, 21 February 2015 08:12 (nine years ago) link
on a sailing ship to nowhere
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 21 February 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link
I'd like to hear that too, I've always thought the original was a little too thin and farty sounding.― MaresNest, Saturday, January 31, 2015 4:35 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― MaresNest, Saturday, January 31, 2015 4:35 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I've always felt like the sound on Going For The One could have been much improved, actually... there's something really muffly and flat sounding about that album, IMO.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Saturday, 21 February 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link
I kind of want to listen to the isolated guitar track from "South Side of the Sky" all night. If I can find it.
― the evening redness at the injection site (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 18 June 2017 09:14 (six years ago) link
Just started The Show That Never Ends: The Rise and Fall of Prog Rock by David Weigel, and the prologue takes place on a prog cruise, where an "anorak" band plays "The Gates of Delirium," and Chris Squire watches from the audience and gets teary-eyed.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 19 June 2017 05:20 (six years ago) link
Okay, I might have to pick up Weigel's book just for that scene. But really, who "covers" Gates of Delirium?
― doug watson, Monday, 19 June 2017 13:33 (six years ago) link
I once saw some anonymous band in a park pavilion cover "Supper's Ready" in its entirety. They were kinda loose and basement band-y, but still really amazing that someone would cover that one.
― smug dinner-jazz atrocity (Dan Peterson), Monday, 19 June 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link
But really, who "covers" Gates of Delirium?― doug watson, Monday, June 19, 2017 1:33 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― doug watson, Monday, June 19, 2017 1:33 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm up for watching any band try to attempt it, even if they fuck it up.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 19 June 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link
Kings Of Leon
― imago, Monday, 19 June 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link
Of course, that would be unbeatable comedy value. I don't think they'd get as far as a rehearsal, they'd just listen to it and go "nah, fuck that!"
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 19 June 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link
moraz kinda sucked live, huh?
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 19 June 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
― smug dinner-jazz atrocity (Dan Peterson), Monday, June 19, 2017 9:09 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha that's a pretty big bite
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 June 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link
xpost Pretty much. His synths always seemed to be waaay out of tune and his playing pretty sloppy.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 19 June 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link
IIRC I thought Moraz sounded pretty great on Yesshows.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 01:25 (six years ago) link
Some days I think this is the best progressive rock album ever made.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 11:51 (six years ago) link
stretches of "sound chaser" are the strangest (competent) rock music ever recorded
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 12:04 (six years ago) link
It feels like everyone on the record is angrily playing at the very edge of their capabilities all at once.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 12:09 (six years ago) link
on that song and in parts of "gates of delirium" for sure. 'soon' is ethereal as uh hell and "to be over" is one of their most hymn-y songs, up there with "awaken"
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, June 19, 2017 8:53 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Wrong record, but this always makes me smile, talk about a project...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhqWpaW9s4o
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link
and "sound chaser" even sounds more competitive (in a friendly way) than angry sometimes, like 'take that, john mclaughlin' and 'we see you coming, orthrelm!'
xpost
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 12:23 (six years ago) link
'Soon' and 'To Be Over' are totally necessary, no doubt about that. The calm parts make the aggressive parts feel more aggressive.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 12:48 (six years ago) link
agreed w/ all of you, Relayer seemed like the moment Yes were about to blast off the planet
― frogbs, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 13:24 (six years ago) link
I like Going For The One a lot, but just imagine if Relayer had been their last record!
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 14:22 (six years ago) link
the legend of roger dean would be even immenser
not counting GfTO they still had four more or less classics to go though -- drama, 90125, the ladder, and fly from here. and there's even decent stuff on tormato, talk, and union
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link
Drama and 90125 could've easily been not Yes records.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link
same with fly from here. horn is golden, like if the beatles had reunited and eno joined not just produced them
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link
Drama is probably their most underrated record at this stage.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link
Fly From Here is close tho.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 20 July 2017 02:08 (six years ago) link
I want to like Drama, think it sounds really nice but the songs just don't hit me at all
― brimstead, Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz3jBBKSkTk
― MaresNest, Saturday, 11 February 2023 21:48 (one year ago) link
dope af
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 18 February 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link