THOUGHT EXPERIMENT: ABOLISH OFFSIDES

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Obama coming in from the left

dn/ac (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 June 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link

nine years pass...

thinkin bout this again

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:27 (seven months ago) link

its wild that soccers is the most popular sport with all the fucked up shit that goes on

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:28 (seven months ago) link

prob mostly due to the fact there are no stoppages of play due to tv commercials which tbf is amazing

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:32 (seven months ago) link

football is already a broken fake spectacle beholden to tv companies just like all the other professional sports, you can let it go now bud

da elephant in daruma (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:36 (seven months ago) link

trying to work out if it was a united game that first inspired this thread too lol

imago, Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:38 (seven months ago) link

seemingly not. olympics maybe

imago, Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:39 (seven months ago) link

i dont remember lol fwiw i do not "support" man u, i just hate to see a goal nullified by offsides

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:40 (seven months ago) link

the only thing from the game just now that needs to be abolished is peter drury

imago, Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:41 (seven months ago) link

offsides to the mm dont work under var, even when the player is actually offside (todays wasnt)

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:44 (seven months ago) link

why wont any league abolish offsides cmon america has multiple ones now cant a shitty one just give it a try, i need to see it, it bothers me the way america is adopting soccer just larping shit from tv wearing the scarves calling the teams fc being unreasonably attached to the offsides rule, mortifying

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:47 (seven months ago) link

Funny vid, but if you tried that in a real game someone would just kick the ball off your foot before you got the chance to kick it.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 18:30 (seven months ago) link

Per OP 11 years ago, think they've tried getting rid of offside many times and you just get all the strikers hanging around the box with the midfielders hoofing the ball in their direction. If that's what you want to see then fair enough.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 18:33 (seven months ago) link

i am pro the offside rule bcz it is the brainchild of J. C. THRING

mark s, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 18:41 (seven months ago) link

literally this guy's dad lol

https://i0.wp.com/www.rob-gregory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Gabbitas-and-Thring-Cropped.jpg

mark s, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 18:59 (seven months ago) link

Per OP 11 years ago, think they've tried getting rid of offside many times and you just get all the strikers hanging around the box with the midfielders hoofing the ball in their direction. If that's what you want to see then fair enough.

― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, September 5, 2023 2:33 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

theyve never tried getting rid off offsides, at least not over a long enough stretch to let real strategy evolve, and i suspect just kicking it into the box wouldnt be where it would land, tho it would def stretch the field so to speak

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 19:20 (seven months ago) link

they have to start bringing it back to the original intent

this millimetre centimetre bullshit is destroying the game trevor

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:36 (seven months ago) link

xp yeah it's only ever been trialled in lower leagues, sure it wouldn't be quite the same over a period of time in the premiership, but it would still change the game fundamentally, there would be much less movement.

would agree completely that it's much, much too strict and applied too pedantically these days.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:44 (seven months ago) link

I mean they could always go back to the old rule where even being even is offside.

That will not at all fix the obsession with frame by frame advance but if ur a fan of offside calls boy would u be thrilled

Dinglebert Humperstink (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:48 (seven months ago) link

The line drawing is nonsense. If we must have var then they should show the var people a freeze frame of the moment the pass is made and the attacker and last defender, if they can't tell from that picture if the player is offside or not then the goal stands. Mostly they won't be able to tell and we'll be back to the pre var days of level is onside advantage to the attacker

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:48 (seven months ago) link

What they should do is just play the entire match, no VAR at all, then after the match they VAR the whole thing and tell you what the official final score is

Dinglebert Humperstink (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:49 (seven months ago) link

People always say "you will have a problem with this until it's your team benefitting from it" and it's like "well sure if we're gonna be fucked by it it's only fair we have some go out way too" but that doesn't mean I enjoy it.

Getting bailed out by VAR for something like that always cheapens victories for me as a fan and ruins the viewing experience even more as a neutral spectator.

I don't mind VAR for PKs and red card offenses but even then they shouldn't be allowed to frame by frame

Dinglebert Humperstink (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:56 (seven months ago) link

Do they do this at non-sports jobs?

"You are appealing being fired for smoking on company grounds. We reviewed the security footage with an independent auditor and on frame by frame advance you can see your left foot was inside company grounds.

Your termination is upheld

Dinglebert Humperstink (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:58 (seven months ago) link

it's still mad shit that Dixie Dean managed to score 60 goals in 39 games in the offside rule era.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:58 (seven months ago) link

What they should do is just play the entire match, no VAR at all, then after the match they VAR the whole thing and tell you what the official final score is

― Dinglebert Humperstink (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:49 (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

love this tbh

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 22:12 (seven months ago) link

the thing is

weve seen absolutely bullshit calls under var since the start, from deciding not to review to deciding not to call the ref over to the ref deciding not to change decision

weve seen clearly offside players and lines that are almost comicallydrawn to get the goal to stand, handballs that were never handballs before and blatant handballs not called

not to turn it partisan but the same clubs get calls from cunt refs and the only thing var has changed is that its more of a disgrace

junk it altogether at this stage

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 22:16 (seven months ago) link

yes so many wrong decisions but the main problem for me is that they started from the assumption that the more 'correct' decisions you get per match no matter what that does to the flow of the game the 'better' it is for the sport. var has made watching football worse imo.

to go back to the original post about scrapping offside my answer would be no because one of the most thrilling things in football is the perfectly timed run/pass to beat offside and leave a one-on-one with the goalie and if you don't enjoy that then maybe football isn't the sport for you.

oscar bravo, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 06:13 (seven months ago) link

maybe its not for you

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 06:16 (seven months ago) link

p sure it is but you do you

oscar bravo, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 06:36 (seven months ago) link

maybe that expression isnt for you

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 06:41 (seven months ago) link


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