Panel Discussion - The ILX Comic Strip Poll Results

my favorite hi and lois fact is that they're related to beetle bailey

I fucking loved those three Gunshow strips

I'm surprised to see Hi and Lois get only one vote.

Yeah, Hi & Lois is all right.

http://comicskingdom.com/system/characters/avatars/4469/website-Chip.jpg?1307485653

Guess we know from where Chip gets it.

All the horrible shit that's shown up in this thread so far and that's the one that strikes you as especially bad?

I'll be honest, I wrote my post after the Girl Mountain post, but it took awhile to find just. the. right. gif.

Hi and Lois shaming Alannis Morrissette years in advance.

Hogan’s Alley by Richard F Outcault – 1 vote
On The Web

The Yellow Kid was the name of a lead comic strip character that ran from 1895 to 1898 in Joseph Pulitzer's New York World, and later William Randolph Hearst's New York Journal. Created and drawn by Richard F. Outcault in the comic strip Hogan's Alley (and later under other names as well), it was one of the first Sunday supplement comic strips in an American newspaper, although its graphical layout had already been thoroughly established in political and other, purely-for-entertainment cartoons. The Yellow Kid is also famous for its connection to the coining of the term Yellow Journalism. Mickey Dugan, better known as The Yellow Kid, was a bald, snaggle-toothed boy who wore an oversized yellow nightshirt and hung around in a slum alley typical of certain areas of squalor that existed in late 19th-century New York City. Hogan's Alley was filled with equally odd characters, mostly other children. With a goofy grin, the Kid habitually spoke in a ragged, peculiar slang, which was printed on his shirt, a device meant to lampoon advertising billboards.

for shame none of us voting buster brown. i shoulda.

wow, ginger & meggs is great, another i'd never heard of. and i love girl mountain, but can see as how it might (would, should) annoy.

Howard the Duck by Steve Gerber and Gene Colan – 1 vote
On The Web

Between June 1977 and October 1978, Howard the Duck appeared in a daily comic strip that comic strip historian Allan Holtz has described as having low distribution and that was eventually replaced by the Hulk strip. Among the handful of newspapers it appeared in were the Toronto Star and Spokane Daily Chronicle. A total of eleven story arcs, as well as a number of single-joke strips, constitute the 511 individual strips that were printed. The strip started with original stories written by Steve Gerber and illustrated by Gene Colan: "Pop Syke", "The Cult of the Entropy" and "The Self Made Man". The latter was started by Colan and completed by Val Mayerik, who stayed on to do two additional Gerber scripted stories: "The Sleigh Jacking" and "In Search of the Good Life". These were followed by an adaptation of the "Sleep of the Just" story from issue 4 of the Marvel comic, scripted by Gerber and illustrated by Alan Kupperberg. Gerber was replaced by Marv Wolfman as writer while Alan Kupperberg continued as artist. The remaining stories were: "Close Encounters of the Fowl Kind", "The Tuesday Ruby", "The Clone Ranger", "The Mystery of the Maltese Human" and "Howard Heads Home". As the series drew to an end, its already meager list of client papers shrank, making copies of these last post-Gerber stories particularly hard to find. In November 1978, the first of a projected eight-issue series reprinting the entire strip was published by John Zawadzki. Titled It's Adventure Time with Howard the Duck, only the initial issue was published.

If… by Steve Bell – 1 vote
On The Web

If... is a sharp and cynical satire of British politics and current affairs from a left-wing perspective. It's named after the famous Rudyard Kipling poem. Suiting both Bell's anarchic artistic style and the paper's political stance, it consists of a short (usually three-panel) daily episode in each Monday to Thursday edition of the paper, with subjects usually covered in these 4-day-long segments. If... occasionally utilizes wordplay and coarse humor; Bell is fond of using the pejorative British word "wanker" and its euphemistic variants, for example. With the Guardian's move to new presses, If... started to appear in full color in September 2005. Initially, the title was reflected in the concept, with each week presenting a separate stand-alone story such as 'If... Dinosaurs roamed Fleet Street,' or 'If the Bash Street Kids ran the country'. This shifted into a different approach during the 1982 Falklands/Mavinas war, when Bell started to concentrate on two central characters: Royal Navy officer Kipling and the Penguin he befriends.

Jeff Hawke by Sydney Jordan – 1 vote
On The Web

Jeff Hawke was a British science fiction comic strip created by Sydney Jordan. It was published in the Daily Express from 15 February 1955 to 18 April 1974, by which point Jordan had "written or co-written and drawn 6,474 episodes." Despite its obscurity in English-speaking countries, it is often regarded as one of the most important science fiction comics ever released, especially in Italy and Scandinavian countries. At first Jeff Hawke, presented as an ex-R.A.F. pilot (just like Jordan) was a rather ordinary, Flash Gordon-like heroic character. The plots were centered around ordinary adventure and science fiction themes common in pulp comics and fiction of the age, and at this stage the drawings were only of average quality. Nevertheless the strip was good enough to be published daily in the Daily Express.
In 1956 William Patterson joined his childhood friend Jordan, at first writing only the dialogue. Prior to this he did work on the Children's Encyclopedia for Amalgamated Press, also doing stories for Dan Dare and war comics. However after a few years he began to produce plot lines and stories as well. This led to a dramatic improvement in the quality of the comic. Patterson made Jeff Hawke the first science fiction comic strip for adults, not just children or adolescents. Jordan, now concentrating entirely on drawing, improved his style to a highly suggestive, realistic, contrasted black-and-white mark. The Patterson-Jordan period is considered the "true" Jeff Hawke by most.

JL8 by Yale Stewart – 1 vote
On The Web

JL8 puts the likes of Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman up against birthday parties, an evil gym teacher from the planet Apokolips, and a playground full of bullies that look an awful lot like the Legion of Doom. Most of the strips are funny, but don’t be surprised if you find yourself getting choked up one every once in a while. They can be surprisingly touching.
(via “Geekosystem”. Also, no they can’t.)

this thread is great, thx so much for doing this forks. and i consider the presence of haters in this thread to be ideal. isn't hating comics a really important part of interacting w/ the medium? they're generally so bad!

Oh I'm a hater all right.

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/79/cee5770e5312e472eab550d7f4051073/l.jpg

I think Jeff Hawke was me? If not then it must have just missed out.

Is that second Hi & Lois really Browne? Is it just the shitty recolouring that’s throwing me off?

I'll be honest, I wrote my post after the Girl Mountain post, but it took awhile to find just. the. right. gif.

FP’d you for this, Hanselmann is 19x the cartoonist most of these web cunts are

wow, ginger & meggs is great, another i'd never heard of.

Ginger Meggs, not &

If should have had B&W strips as the example, ideally from the Falklands-ish era

^^ not grumping at heroic poll-rescuer forks, just saying in case I can't find any to post later

nu-meggs always looks like he's taking a slash off-panel

post-Bancks doesn't count obv

http://adventuresincollecting.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/If-Miners-Strike.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vhdNCCyJaj8/TM79ZaGDuYI/AAAAAAAACeQ/KAY-rLr6acA/s1600/if-peng.gif

http://belgranoinquiry.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/stevebell11.jpg

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzSteve-Bell-If-_2__-24_12_0-001_5223.JPG

http://www.lambiek.net/artists/image/b/bell_steve/bell_steve.gif

not great but

post-Bancks doesn't count obv

Johnny Hazard by Frank Robbins – 1 vote
On The Web

Johnny Hazard was an action-adventure comic strip published from 1944 until 1977 with separate storylines for the daily strip and the Sunday strip. After work in advertising, Robbins took over the daily strip Scorchy Smith from Noel Sickles in 1939 with a Sunday page added in 1940. King Features then asked Robbins to do Secret Agent X-9, but Robbins instead chose to devise an aviation comic for the syndicate, and Johnny Hazard was launched on Monday, June 5, 1944, one day before D-Day. While working on the strip during the 1940s, Robbins contributed illustrations to Life, Look, The Saturday Evening Post and other magazines. Robbins stopped drawing Johnny Hazard in 1977 and retired to Mexico in order to devote himself to painting full time.
The strip followed the globe-trotting adventures of aviator Johnny Hazard, initially as a member of the United States Army Air Corps in World War II, later as a Cold War secret agent. Comics historian Don Markstein described the transition: As the story opened, Johnny, like most American men of his generation, was fighting World War II. But his gig with the Army Air Corps didn't last long, as D-Day came when the strip was only a day old. But the only effect civilian life had on him was to enlarge the scope of his adventures—as a freelance pilot, Johnny ranged throughout the entire world. (An early focus, though, was China, putting him head-to-head with the rival Chicago Tribune Syndicate's Terry and the Pirates.) Johnny dealt with spies, beautiful women, smugglers, gorgeous dames, sci-fi style menaces, fabulous chicks and all the other kinds of folks a two-fisted adventurer of his caliber would be expected to deal with. As he did, unlike many fictional two-fisted adventurers, he matured—not as quickly as real people, but after a third of a century or so, he was quite gray at the temples. And a third of a century was as long as the strip ran. It was popular enough at first, and ran far longer than most post-war adventure strips, but the times were against it. Newspaper editors were more interested in daily gags than continuous stories, and Johnny Hazard succumbed to the trend in 1977.

Les Frustres by Claire Bretecher – 1 vote
On The Web

Claire Bretécher (born 1940) is a French cartoonist, known particularly for her portrayals of women and gender issues. Her creations include the Frustrés, and the unimpressed teenager Agrippine. Bretécher was born in Nantes and got her first break as an illustrator when she was asked to provide the artwork for Le Facteur Rhésus by René Goscinny for L'Os à Moelle in 1963. She went on to work for several popular magazines and in 1969 invented the character "Cellulite". In 1972 she joined Gotlib and Mandryka in founding the Franco-Belgian comics magazine L'Écho des savanes. Throughout the 1970s and 1980s, she published successful collections, such as The Destiny of Monique (1982). In 2001, Bretécher's series Agrippine was adapted into a 26-episode TV series by Canal+.

Lio by Mark Tatulli – 1 vote
On The Web

The strip focuses on the adventures of a creative little boy, Liō, who lives with his father (unnamed in the strip) and his pets. Liō's mother is deceased. It is currently unknown how she died. The setting of the story varies from Liō's house to his school and the general outside world. The time period appears to be contemporary, except for an episode set in the year 2101, when Liō is in his nineties but still very much capable of mischief. The story is told visually, with little or no dialogue. Gags frequently involve the supernatural, alien invasion or mass destruction of many sorts, creating a surreal, disturbing atmosphere. Some of the strip's recurring themes involve Liō getting even with grade-school bullies, helping animals (most of which are non-anthropomorphic but display obvious intelligence) defend themselves against humans or their predators, and performing mad scientist style experiments. He is often seen using robots that he constructs himself for causing mischief. Another recurring gag in the strip is parody of other famous comic strips, including Cathy, For Better or For Worse, Garfield, Zits, Calvin and Hobbes, Blondie, Peanuts, Pearls Before Swine, The Family Circus and Berkeley Breathed's strips.

The Magic Whistle by Sam Henderson – 1 vote
On The Web

Henderson has been self-publishing xeroxed minicomics since 1980. In the mid-to-late 1980s he drew and published a comic called Captain Spaz with his friend Bobby Weiss. The series ended in 1988 as he was busy in college. In college, he drew a series of minicomics featuring a character known as Monroe Simmons. In 1993 he began self-publishing his best-known title, The Magic Whistle, now published by Alternative Comics. Also in 1993 he began the wordless comic strip "Scene but Not Heard," starring a pink man and a red bear, in Nickelodeon Magazine. It was the magazine's longest-running comic strip. A collection is due out in 2010.

Malfalda by Quino – 1 vote
On The Web

Mafalda is a comic strip written and drawn by Argentine cartoonist Joaquín Salvador Lavado, better known by his pen name Quino. The strip features a 6-year-old girl named Mafalda, who reflects the Argentinian middle class and progressive youth, which is concerned about humanity and world peace and rebels against the world bequeathed by their elders. The strip ran from 1964 to 1973 and was very popular in Latin America, Europe, Quebec, and in Asia, leading to two animated cartoon series and a book. The comic strip is composed of the main character Mafalda, her parents and a group of other children. However, the group was not created on purpose, but was instead a result of the development of the comic strip. The other children were created one at a time, and worked by countering specific aspects of Mafalda. The exception was Guille, Mafalda's brother, who was introduced during a period when the author did not have other ideas.

Marmaduke by Brad Anderson – 1 vote
On The Web

Marmaduke was created by Anderson, with help from Phil Leeming (1955–1962) and later Dorothy Leeming (1963–1969), and (since August 2, 2004) Paul Anderson. The strip revolves around the Winslow family and their Great Dane, Marmaduke. The strip on Sundays also has a side feature called "Dog Gone Funny", in which one or more panels are devoted to dog anecdotes submitted by the fans. Anderson, who says he draws on Laurel and Hardy routines for his ideas, received the National Cartoonists Society Newspaper Panel Cartoon Award for the strip in 1978. Marmaduke continues to be widely syndicated, and is popular with readers: attempts to cancel Marmaduke have drawn protest, such as those by readers of The Toronto Star in 1999, of the Sarasota Herald Tribune in 2007, and of the Chicago Sun-Times in 1986. Despite this, its longevity and perceived monotony have been noted by satirical publications such as The Onion[8] and have made it the butt of jokes. It has become "a hot source of retro-ironic-subversive humor." For example, a blog called "Joe Mathlete Explains Today's Marmaduke" deconstructs the strip to offer an alternative explanation for what's happening in the drawing. Another blog called "Marmaduke Can Vote" gives each panel a political slant, while "The Marmaduke Project" re-imagines Marmaduke in other forms. In his satirical analysis at The Comic Strip Doctor, David Malki of Wondermark ranked Marmaduke among "the worst newspaper comic strips" alongside Heathcliff, Family Circus and Dennis the Menace.

holy shit who voted for marmaduke?

in the uk we had fred bassett, an equally useless dog strip. here is a picture of charles schulz and bassett creator alex graham - they were both published in the Daily Mail :-(

http://www.pinterest.com/pin/74872412528255057/

aaargh i am so fucking useless at posting pictures

oh we had Fred Bassett, too

Marmaduke and Fred Bassett both way better than half the stuff appearing here so far

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/57/88/d5/5788d5267c32cd94870bc39dfee7483f.jpg

marmaduke is not better than a square of unprinted paper

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didn't know that! marmaduke may even have appeared in a uk newspaper at some point or other.

thank you for yr assistance, f&wa. graham's cig holder is a treat

we have fred bassett in the US too. it's pretty worthless.

a friend of mine tried out for the job of ghosting fred bassett after graham died, but he didn't get the gig, which was prob bad for his bank balance but gd for his sanity.

i prefer the gambols

fyi... depending on yr browser, right click on an image to find its url. in firefox "copy image location" gets what you need to paste here.

in the 90s the Mail on Sunday used to do a whole pull-out cartoon section that printed both Fred Bassett and Marmaduke, as well as a load of other US syndicated strips!

thanks again, f&wa, i use firefox and will remember yr advice in future

soref, yes! that's where i've seen marmaduke. also Shoe by Jeff MacNelly, which was nicely drawn at least.

marmaduke is not better than a square of unprinted paper

― sci-fi looking, chubby-leafed, delicately bizarre (contenderizer), Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:38 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The thing that makes me hate Marmaduke above most other comics is the waste of space in the Sunday strip. Like, during the week, whatever, it's another shitty one panel strip, it sucks, it's never funny, but someone gave this asshole space for a full strip on Sunday when he's clearly only capable of doing one panel, so the majority of Marmaduke Sundays are OMG-MARMADUKE-BARKING-IN-HUGE-LETTERS-AND-RUNNING-AROUND and then the final panel with his owner saying "Whoa Marmaduke sure is running!" or whatever the horrible punchline is.

Some Old Man Still Churning Out Marmaduke

the moment when we get to a comic strip voted on by more than one ilxor will be like the moment in a long duration drone piece when the pitch suddenly shifts a tiny notch

celebrated uk comedy wasteman charlie brooker wrote a sketch in the early 00s about a bunch of people on a desert island forced to read nothing but the daily mail, it was fucking dire as you'd expect but one part did make me lol quite a bit - this guy who starts believing he's fred basset

mostly cause of how the actor plays it

Fred Basset is at least a cute character design. Marmaduke is an all around monster.

My uncle breeds Great Danes so I am irrationally fond of Marmaduke

they should get that guy to do the voice and motion capture stuff if they ever make a CGI Fred Basset movie