how the hell was Calculus Cat eligible and The Spirit not
― rage against martin sheen (sic), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link
Since it only got one vote where The Spirit would likely have got several more I'm okay with it.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 02:18 (nine years ago) link
...why is "it would have got votes" a reason to exclude it?
― rage against martin sheen (sic), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 02:57 (nine years ago) link
I have no idea what the deal is with the publication of Emerson's comic, so I don't know whether it should be allowed or not. The Spirit was argued and discussed on the nomination thread, and it was decided that it wasn't a strip.
Regardless, one vote for a possible offender doesn't bother me. Multiple votes for one would have, because it skews the results for the poll in general. These single vote outliers are just that.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 03:07 (nine years ago) link
It was a sometime full page, sometimes multi-page story that appeared in comics anthologies and magazines. Here's a Kickstarter for a collection from Knockabout.
I'm sure there will be a LOT more webcomics that don't fit outside any of the "not a newspaper strip" reasons for excluding newspaper strip The Spirit skewing the votes to come! (ie wtf at that first one itt)
― rage against martin sheen (sic), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 03:22 (nine years ago) link
I had no clue, so thanks for the info.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 03:33 (nine years ago) link
And I'll be sure to be pissy down the line. I'm saving up my outrage for later.
The Spirit was eligible and received multiple votes
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 04:57 (nine years ago) link
It was? I thought we argued it out of contention. Damn, I don't remember anything about this at all.
Oh well.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 04:59 (nine years ago) link
Hey - I just found the email I sent - I even voted for it! Giant hypocrite here.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 05:12 (nine years ago) link
didn't realize this was going on. when did it start? did i nominate calculus cat? i have some vague memory of that, like ages ago. PS i love calculus cat.
― sci-fi looking, chubby-leafed, delicately bizarre (contenderizer), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 05:15 (nine years ago) link
maybe i just wanted to nominate calculus cat for something
It started 11 months ago. I sorta forgot about the whole thing, and obviously misremembered arguments and my own damn ballot. I'm losing it.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 05:22 (nine years ago) link
this poll is tearing us apart
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 05:25 (nine years ago) link
I'll remain outraged just in case.
― rage against martin sheen (sic), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 06:14 (nine years ago) link
Even though I just checked and the vote for Calculus Cat was mine.
― rage against martin sheen (sic), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 06:17 (nine years ago) link
http://m4.i.pbase.com/o6/25/257025/1/83856724.PU8p1BfH.emotcolbert.gif
― rage against martin sheen (sic), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 06:18 (nine years ago) link
lol at all of this btw
― On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link
best rollout ever.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 13:19 (nine years ago) link
Carol Day by David Wright – 1 voteOn The Web
David Wright was a British illustrator who drew a series of "lovelies" that epitomized female glamour during World War II. He also created the "Carol Day" cartoon strip for the Daily Mail in 1956, creating a soap opera style of comic strip that paralleled similar work in the USA.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link
Cheech Wizard by Vaughn Bode – 1 voteOn The Web
Cheech Wizard is a comic book character created by artist Vaughn Bodé and appearing in various works, including the National Lampoon, from 1967 until Bodé's death in 1975. A mysterious character of unknown origins, The Wizard is constantly in search of a good party, cold beer, and attractive women. The Cheech Wizard is often drawn in graffiti murals and street art and has been repeatedly referenced in pop music. Though the character was, according to Bodé, created in 1957, Cheech didn't see print until 1967, when he appeared in various publications being produced by the counterculture developing around the Syracuse University campus (where Bodé was attending school). Cheech Wizard stories ran in the "Funny Pages" of National Lampoon magazine in almost every issue from 1971 to 1975.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link
Never come across Carol Day before, but I really like the look of it. A real Heart of Juliet Jones/Mary Perkins On Stage feel to it.
― Daniwa, guys! Daniwa! (aldo), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link
Conchy by James Childress – 1 voteOn The WebChildress Interview from 1975
Conchy was a critically acclaimed but only modestly successful American comic strip that ran from 1970 to 1977. Set on a desert island with a group of beachcombers as the main characters, the strip addressed serious issues of its time. James Childress (who committed suicide in 1977, effectively ending the strip) created Conchy in the early 1960s as homage to his love of beachcombing. By 1974, Conchy was appearing in 26 papers, finally attracting a syndicate's interest, from Field Enterprises, who signed Childress up that year. His client list increased to over 150 papers.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link
Death to the Extremist by Michael Zole – 1 vote
Death to the Extremist is a minimalist webcomic series created by Michael Zole. Initially published in Hampshire College's magazine The Omen, it has been published regularly online since 2001. The final episode appeared on January 1, 2007. The strip follows the strange, often music-oriented adventures of two amorphous entities, named One and Two, each of whom is represented only by quarter circles. The comic is ultra-minimalist and features no artwork, only dialogue and graphics. Each comic consists of nine cells, often with one or more blank cells in which neither of the characters say anything. Each comic has its own background, and starting with season 4 there is an extra short sentence hidden in light text at the bottom of each image and in the RSS feed.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link
this is the thread that we deserve
― pplains, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link
eh, one vote
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link
Thanks for doing this, Forks - that last Carol Day (one of my votes) is especially gorgeous.
The Bristow examples are maybe not so fine.
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link
i'm unfamiliar with Bristow; don't think it has any american penetration for obvious reasonsi would welcome some better strip examples there? And in general for all these strips if anyone has a favorite or three they'd like to post.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
Honestly, Bristow looks pretty dire to me... some kind of walter mitty meets dilbert mashup. i'd love to see something to disabuse me of that notion.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link
Well it is a very English kind of whimsy that may well not travel well, and a lot of its 'charm' or humour depends on spinning out endless variations on a relatively small number of themes and situations, so in some ways it is closest to a British sitcoms rather than other comic strips. Ronnie Barker would've made the perfect Bristow.
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link
see i have no idea who that is!
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I'd say Bristow is very, very British with no real American analogue.
Which reminds me that I think I said I would do a UK IPC/DC Thompson poll in the other thread so maybe I should.
― Daniwa, guys! Daniwa! (aldo), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link
James Childress (who committed suicide in 1977, effectively ending the strip)
among other things
― sci-fi looking, chubby-leafed, delicately bizarre (contenderizer), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link
very effectively
― rage against martin sheen (sic), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link
not to snark, but why unweight the ballots?
― aaliyah papi (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 01:19 (nine years ago) link
No real way to that I saw. Half the ballots weren't ordered that way or were piecemeal or short lists.This is nobody's definitive list; as with coint and plick I would rather have it as a reference source and for browsing
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 01:43 (nine years ago) link
uh so even if we did weight our ballots they're not being counted like that?
― rage against martin sheen (sic), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link
Going based on number of votes only, with a few strips combined
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 01:52 (nine years ago) link
Can't you weight the weighted ballots and make all the others one vote only?
― rage against martin sheen (sic), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 02:09 (nine years ago) link
Or maybe count all the unweighted ones as 10 pts each or something? Just trying to help; I'd like my weighted ballot to count as I intended, but I'm okay if it doesn't.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 02:12 (nine years ago) link
Carol Day looks goooorgeous, that justifies some of these horrible one-votees
Bristow ran in Australia too, as a kid I found it painful and tedious and a horrifying vision of daily life and read it every day
― rage against martin sheen (sic), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 02:45 (nine years ago) link
i'm afraid this is gonna have to run unweighted; I ran into the burning building once to get this thing going but I ain't up for twice.if it's any consolation (to paraphrase lincoln), the world will little note nor long remember how we poll here.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 03:07 (nine years ago) link
Diesel Sweeties by Richard Stevens – 1 voteOn The Web
Diesel Sweeties is a webcomic and former newspaper comic strip that began in 2000, originally hosted at robotstories.com. From January 2007 until August 2008 it was syndicated to over 20 United States newspapers, including major daily newspapers like The Detroit News and Houston Chronicle. Stevens is a co-founder of the Dumbrella alliance of webcomic artists. Since 2002, Stevens has supported himself through online sales of merchandise related to his comics.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 03:11 (nine years ago) link
I didn't vote, but these excerpts of obscure comics are really fascinating
― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 03:12 (nine years ago) link
but not that one
Donald Duck by Al Talliaferro and Bob Karp – 1 vote On The Web
Charles Alfred Taliaferro, known simply as Al Taliaferro, was a Disney comics artist who used to produce Disney comic strips for King Features Syndicate. Many of his strips were written by Bob Karp.He is best known for his work on the Donald Duck comic strip, but he started his career lettering the Mickey Mouse strips (March 1931 – July 1932), and drew the Bucky Bug comics in 1932 as well as Silly Symphonies pages from 1932 to 1939. Taliaferro co-created a number of characters, including Huey, Dewey and Louie, Bolivar, Grandma Duck, and arguably Daisy Duck. He drew Donald Duck comic strips from 1938 until his death in 1969 in Glendale, California.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 03:15 (nine years ago) link
Dry Bones by Yaakov Kirschen – 1 vote On The Web
Dry Bones is an Israeli political cartoon strip published in the English-language newspaper The Jerusalem Post since 1973. The name of the comic strip refers to the vision of the "Valley of Bones" in the Book of Ezekiel (37:1-14). Dry Bones has been reprinted and quoted by the New York Times, Time Magazine, LA Times, CBS, AP and Forbes. It offers a pictorial commentary on current events in Israel and the Jewish world. Kirschen says his cartoons are designed to make people laugh, which makes them drop their guard and see things the way he does. In an interview, he defined his objective as a cartoonist as an attempt to "seduce rather than to offend.”
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 03:19 (nine years ago) link
god yes. had never heard of carol day or david wright, but that's an incredible strip. nice archive of original art and sketches at the carol-day.com site linked above.
― sci-fi looking, chubby-leafed, delicately bizarre (contenderizer), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 03:23 (nine years ago) link
Edge City by Terry and Patty LaBan – 1 voteOn The Web
Meet the Ardins! They’re the stars of Edge City, a groundbreaking comic strip that follows a hip Jewish-American family juggling relationships, careers and tradition at the fast pace of modern life. Len owns a delivery service, and Abby is a psychologist. Fueled by caffeine and gasoline, they and their kids, Colin and Carly, power their way through self-employment, after-school activities, pursuing their dreams and lining up for carpool. Len and Abby take stress for granted—but not each other. Modern marriage isn’t easy, but the Ardins make it work, facing what life throws at them with intelligence, humor and an occasional hissy fit. It also helps to have friends and family, the latest self-help book, weekend rock-and-roll sessions and decent carryout. So, pack the kids off to school, grab a latte and try to beat rush hour on I-25—it’s life on the edge every day in Edge City!(via comics kingdom, one of the syndicates of the strip on the web)
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 03:23 (nine years ago) link
kudos to these troll ballots
― Dan I., Wednesday, 11 June 2014 03:31 (nine years ago) link
We should be done by 2015.― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, June 10, 2014 6:25 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, June 10, 2014 6:25 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Great work sic, and forks, and Mordy.
My ballot, weighted towards my childhood nostalgia, comics from AU/NZ, and ignoring the creator's descent into misogyny and/or born-again Christianity (even if they were, on reflection, apparent within the strips themselves):
Dick Tracy, by Chester GouldFootrot Flats, by Murray BallPeanuts, by Charles SchulzRobotman, by Jim MeddickCalvin and Hobbes, by Bill WattersonHagar the Horrible, by Dik BrowneGinger Meggs, by Jimmy BancksBluey and Curley, by Alex GurneyThe Far Side, by Gary LarsonAndy Capp, by Reg SmytheGarfield, by Jim DavisEttamogah Pub, by Ken MaynardTracts, by Jack ChickBeetle Bailey, by Mort WalkerB.C., by Johnny HartBlondie, by Chic YoungThe Wizard of Id, by Johnny Hart and Brant Parker
Top 5 worst:
Fred Basset by Alex GrahamAny webcomic that took inspiration from Penny ArcadeAny webcomic that is an outgrowth of online fandomAny post-Blondie comic where the main theme is "the battle of the sexes"xkcd
― Vernon Locke, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 00:45 (eight years ago) link
I say we have a do-over.
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 02:36 (eight years ago) link
now accepting ballots
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 02:45 (eight years ago) link
Well having not voted all I shall do is pace back on forth in this room lamenting that Peanuts didn't get no. 1, although I have nothing against C&H. But Peanuts is what I grew up with, I still have my early 80's little paperback comps, all ragged now but still containing the slips of paper I put in some point in the 90's to remind me which frames to photocopy for mixtape/cd covers.Doonesbury actually taught me about American politics, reading it in the Guardian in front of my mothers gas fire, prolly this was the asterisk for president era? Then PBF was in the Guardian later, yeah I liked that, I appreciated the judicious use of the 3 frame format.I donno most of the older stuff, but I really need to check out the Krazy Kat bisnes, that is very much appealing to me from these strips.
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 02:49 (eight years ago) link
Larson to me is just birthday cards from vaguely-remembered relatives, and my uh Former Partner pishing herself laughing at THE MEMORY of some strip about, I forget... boneless chickens? I was baffled at the time and kinda remain so.
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 02:53 (eight years ago) link
my ballot:
Peanuts, by Charles SchulzPopeye, by E.C. SegarKrazy Kat, by George HerrimanBarnaby, by Crockett JohnsonLittle Nemo, by Winsor McCayCalvin and Hobbes, by Bill WattersonSick Sick Sick, by Jules FeifferMoomin, by Tove Jansson (and Lars Jansson)Little Lulu, by MargeMafalda, by QuinoLife in Hell, by Matt GroeningLittle Orphan Annie, by Harold GrayCul de Sac, by Richard ThompsonNancy, by Ernie BushmillerPolly and her Pals, by Cliff SterrettGreat Pop Things, by Colin B. Morton and Chuck DeathThe Kin-der-Kids, by Lyonel FeiningerThe Family Upstairs, by George HerrimanSkippy, by Percy CrosbyThe Inventions of Professor Lucifer G. Butts, A.K. by Rube Goldberg
5 worst:
The Amazing Spider-Man, by Stan Lee, Larry Lieber and Alex SaviukRose is Rose, by Don Wimmer and Pat BradyMallard Fillmore, by Bruce TinsleyHi and Lois, by Mort Walker and Dik BrowneMr. Potato Head, by Jim Davis
(looking back, i'm pretty sure i meant to vote for sally forth, not rose is rose, but oh well.)
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 04:59 (eight years ago) link
i just wanna say how much i love hobbes' horny grin, on display above in the faux-soap strip but used often.
was thinking about when this grin comes over him, because "often" is wrong; his most dramatic expression in most strips is an eyeroll. (i think his big beatific smile in the very early strip above is out of character, even tho beatitude in general is crudely in character. compare it to the dryness of his truly hobbesian smile as he tells calvin what we're here to do--or to the many dailies where he's lying in the sun and calvin provokes him, where he is all regal composure.) it's specific things that make him show teeth. a few times over susie (she gives him a valentine!). a few times over tuna. once over a smock. smock smock smock smock smock smock. i'm sure i'm forgetting things.
peanuts is obviously in so many senses peerless. (apparently when schulz phoned lynn johnston to warmly congratulate her on being syndicated in her hundredth paper, she joked "i'm catching up with you!", an obvious hyperbole, and he snarled "call me when you're in the louvre" and hung up. this is the second-best story about charles schulz and lynn johnston.) and the astonishing expressiveness schulz puts in such a tiny, legible space is in a way more impressive than the gorgeous work watterson was eventually able to do on the lavish canvases he demanded and got. (of course the shrinkability of peanuts is maybe part of the reason watterson had to demand that stuff in the first place. and he was plenty great in four cramped panels himself. in the paragraph-long introduction schulz did to the first c&h treasury, he says "i like calvin's little shoes that look like dinner rolls". god, just imagine getting that.) but i am okay with c&h winning because i am a corny millennial the two characters are eventually such rich, unique elaborations of comic-strip cliches (bratty kid, aloof cat) and they tussle+embrace in such complicated ways, and the focus is always firmly on their multiaxial dialectic, sorry, their friendship. (this narrow focus on a personal relationship that is also in unsummarizable ways an ideological one is something the strip owes to krazy kat besides the rock formations.) peanuts in contrast has a big shifting ensemble that periodically gets usurped by snoopy--tho of course c&h runs for 10 years and peanuts runs for a million. anyway, i was an only child. a philistine on the sidewalk.
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 08:39 (eight years ago) link
This is definitely one of the best threads ever.
I think Achewood is one of the most wonderful things. I regret none of the hours I've spent reading it.
― I don't have the time or energy to make a counterargument (stevie), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 12:21 (eight years ago) link
I've read a bunch of Achewood now and yeah this is not for me you ppl are crazy
POLL DO OVER
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 21:33 (eight years ago) link
the C&H plane/train/earthquake strip above it so expertly done
I lose it every time at "his eye twitches involuntarily"
― Number None, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 23:28 (eight years ago) link
yes. iirc the caption on that strip in the 10th anniversary book: "One of Calvin's better buildups."
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 23:30 (eight years ago) link
My favorite bit in the Prehistory book:
http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/02-far-side-dennis-the-menace.png
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 23:40 (eight years ago) link
xp still i think my favorite cruel-god-calvin strip is this earlier, cruder one. the timing.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Inuxx/664f9ab0ded9013171bc005056a9545d_zps48z20fwu.jpg
boredom comes so swiftly.
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 23:42 (eight years ago) link
hahaha i'll never get over the petrified skull mixup
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link
That deer one sure hits a bit closer to home than it used to.
― pplains, Thursday, 10 December 2015 01:00 (eight years ago) link
some kid in my cub scout "pack" made half of us enact that one as a skit. he worried you a little.
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 10 December 2015 01:31 (eight years ago) link
later he threatened to kill me over his sister (we were 9)
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 10 December 2015 01:32 (eight years ago) link
Wow, I just went through the whole thread after only doing sections at a time.
Top Of My To Do List:~Gasoline Alley~The Spirit
I used to collect Fox Trot when I was younger. And like lots of things, I got turned off and remain that way. I remember when Jason didn't like school in the first couple books. Life In Hell is overrated. Achewood is overrated.
― The Once-ler, Thursday, 10 December 2015 03:07 (eight years ago) link
ok, maybe I'm being a little hard on Groening
― The Once-ler, Thursday, 10 December 2015 03:20 (eight years ago) link
i had a lot of foxtrot books too. this was in the dark years after c&h ended. my best friend and i sat in a panda express and talked about it as a potential second coming. of course it wasn't.
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 10 December 2015 03:22 (eight years ago) link
In my memory, FoxTrot was already past its peak and well into routine by the time C&H ended. It only debuted a couple years after C&H, so I guess that's not so surprising. Or maybe I was just growing out of it. I like the 80s-ness of the early strips, with Peter obsessing over Bruce Springsteen and stuff.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 10 December 2015 04:03 (eight years ago) link
oh yeah i was reading it in collections exclusively; i don't think it was in my paper.
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 10 December 2015 04:37 (eight years ago) link
a personal second coming i guess.
so apparently there's a new achewood and it's a good one! (there are 2 new ones actually, the other is a fuck you friday)
― nerd shit (Will M.), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link
a brief rumination on recent Achewood:http://fleen.com/archives/2016/08/26/in-which-i-go-on-about-achewood-for-a-while/
― Shakey δσς (sic), Sunday, 4 September 2016 12:52 (seven years ago) link
on the discussion about the degree to which Achewood was native to the web, and to not being stand alone random gags: Tyrell using hypertext there, far more than explicit wording, to reference and allude to the way the accretion of detail is linked through time, both for the reader and the characters' lives within the strip (cf the recent one with Beef divining Showbiz' approach by treating the local papers minor police reports as runes)
although, of course, his doubt over whether this death of Todd's will take any more firmly than any previous can give weight to those who want to dismiss any seriousness of character or tone
― Shakey δσς (sic), Sunday, 4 September 2016 12:58 (seven years ago) link
recent achewood has been scorchin, reminded me why i loved it in the first place
― beer say hi to me (stevie), Sunday, 11 September 2016 08:19 (seven years ago) link
RIP New Zealand's David Sim.
― Vernon Locke, Sunday, 12 March 2017 23:13 (seven years ago) link