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Who's key and peele and when were they on the show?

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Thursday, 5 June 2014 06:32 (nine years ago) link

Wait were they the feds in the car? That bit was lol.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Thursday, 5 June 2014 06:32 (nine years ago) link

Yes the file room cops

calstars, Thursday, 5 June 2014 09:19 (nine years ago) link

also, key and peele....?!?

― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:53 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 5 June 2014 09:45 (nine years ago) link

key and peele totally took me out of it but they were also a lot of fun

― Clay, Thursday, May 29, 2014 2:04 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 5 June 2014 09:45 (nine years ago) link

Just caught that last ep (8?) with the whole file room banishment and the jump in timeline. Threw me a bit, but the cliffhanger was niiiiiice.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 03:50 (nine years ago) link

And I like how I'm now kinda really starting to hate Lester, instead of feel he's the underdog.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 03:58 (nine years ago) link

Malvo's limp bangs are throwin' me off... interesting/odd that characters address him as "young man," or whatever. He's got a sort of pretty boy thing going on.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 04:26 (nine years ago) link

I dug the time jump, though I found Lester's complete personality overhaul a bit much to swallow.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 09:05 (nine years ago) link

Yeah it was a bit too quick, it felt. I spose the whole idea was the "I got away with it" renewed confidence, but it all feels like its bracing for a big crash.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 09:20 (nine years ago) link

Just caught that last ep (8?) with the whole file room banishment and the jump in timeline. Threw me a bit, but the cliffhanger was niiiiiice.

― the Bronski Review (Trayce), Monday, June 9, 2014 11:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for some reason i had it in my head that the season was 8 episodes long so i was watching that whole thing like it was a finale and it totally felt like one to me. was surprised later that day to look something up and see there were 2 more episodes coming.

i'm kind of "i've come this far, might as well see it through" about it all, though. as of episode 6 i've felt downright embarrassed for this show.

some dude, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 09:52 (nine years ago) link

Huh, I'm really loving it! THo this latest one was paced rather strangely.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 10:03 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I think it's been pretty much ace front to back so far.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 10:05 (nine years ago) link

my favourite bit was the awkward Molly-Gus romance building, felt like they skipped that forward too soon.

cerealbar, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link

I didn't have a problem with the time skip. A year is a long time. And you know, it's tv. Just go with it.

calstars, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link

yeah i like the idea of doing the jump forward in the middle of the season, kinda like that better than when i thought they'd done it in the finale, where that's more of a predictable move.

some dude, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 16:46 (nine years ago) link

although rmde at HEY LOOK NOW WE HAVE A PREGNANT LADY COP

some dude, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link

Possibly my favourite thing on (UK) TV, at the moment though I do hope it is only *this* series.

I liked that there was a point where I (kind of) wanted Lester to get away with it.

djh, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link

is there any rationale for why malvo kills hess, beyond pure caprice?

or why he lets the deaf hitman go?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link

He kills a policeman just to free mr wrench when he could have killed him. Probably because of some hit-man code thing.

xelab, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link

he says something like "you got closer than anybody ever has." meaning... you got closer to killing me than anybody has? my hat is off to you, sir?

i would love to see mr. wrench (that's his name?) some more, he's possibly my favorite character after solverson

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link

He is actually a deaf actor and yeah he has been one of the most distinctively watchable people in this series, with his partner in crime of course.

xelab, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link

he is kind of the best. but i don't quite buy adam goldberg as a hitman no matter how badass he cranks it. and tbh i'm not really buying billy bob either. not to say i don't appreciate all billy bob's little actor's business, his fey shuffling steez, his menacing calm, etc but c'mon. now the guy that played hess, i'd buy him offing a couple of fools.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link

I really enjoyed goldberg, more just the deep friendship between him + wrench. They only work together these two and become quite vulnerable on their own.

xelab, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link

he says something like "you got closer than anybody ever has." meaning... you got closer to killing me than anybody has?

I was confused by that too, bf agrees with you and said thats what he meant. I didnt twig at first the little key was the handcuff key either. Whys he want him to be able to escapeso he can "look him up later"? I was a bit baffled at that bit.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 06:40 (nine years ago) link

His organisation have all been killed by Malvo, he's deaf and his partner (more than business?) is dead. Dude is alone and nothing to look forward to than a life in jail - I figured Malvo thought it would make them even, unwritten hitman code and all that.

Daniwa, guys! Daniwa! (aldo), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 06:47 (nine years ago) link

That makes sense. I forgot to link all that to the mad shooting spree in the office thing. a lot happened in the last couple eps.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 07:03 (nine years ago) link

Malvo never got his money off the supermarket guy did he? Figured he was doing all that more for a chuckle than the cash though.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 09:50 (nine years ago) link

i have a grim suspicion that the show sees malvo as a kind of motivationless "joker" character which is just... ugh

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 10:09 (nine years ago) link

malvo is sort of a Chigurh character. show feels like a "greatest hits of the cohen themes" mashup.

this last episode tho -- such a bleak ending

wat is teh waht (s.clover), Thursday, 12 June 2014 01:02 (nine years ago) link

All caught up now and this fucking show

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Thursday, 12 June 2014 04:33 (nine years ago) link

i miss when malvo seemed more puckish (goading the kid to piss in the gas tank) rather than just a guy who blasts holes through everything at the drop of a hat

da croupier, Thursday, 12 June 2014 06:35 (nine years ago) link

i liked the idea that he was a principled, crafty hitman who was capable of the occasional murder of pique, but now he's this angel of death who marches through public spaces offing people without a second thought

da croupier, Thursday, 12 June 2014 06:38 (nine years ago) link

while a handful of good actors survey the wreckage with a solemn "oh jeez"

da croupier, Thursday, 12 June 2014 06:43 (nine years ago) link

I can't remember what he Malvo said but didn't he explain why he was giving Wrench the key immediately before doing so?

djh, Thursday, 12 June 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link

YEah that latest episode, man. Cant wait to see how it all unravels in the last episode.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Sunday, 15 June 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link

that scene where malvo turns up at molly's dad's place was brilliant.

xelab, Sunday, 15 June 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link

it was a hitchcock type scene where pure evil is pitted against a benevolent type.

xelab, Sunday, 15 June 2014 23:57 (nine years ago) link

Loved Lester thinking about the orange coat and dressing his wife in it. I still think if he avoids getting killed and Malvo does then he can get away with it all.

Daniwa, guys! Daniwa! (aldo), Sunday, 15 June 2014 23:59 (nine years ago) link

I reckon Malvo will get him, but what villainy if he gets away with this shit!

xelab, Monday, 16 June 2014 00:04 (nine years ago) link

Edit: Molly will save him from Malvo and get him after killing Malvo.

xelab, Monday, 16 June 2014 00:08 (nine years ago) link

that scene where malvo turns up at molly's dad's place was brilliant.

Yes, that was great. How immediately he knew the guy was evil/up to no good. Hence the comment about seeing the less-than-animal in serial killers. He knew, and he knew Malvo knew.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Monday, 16 June 2014 00:09 (nine years ago) link

xelab: yeah that'd be the best ending but the show's been bleak enough I wouldnt put it past them for something way more awful to happen (Gus dies/Molly dies/Lester kills Malvo and gets away with the lot/etc)

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Monday, 16 June 2014 00:10 (nine years ago) link

A bleak ending would be unforgivable, but yeah it might on the way.

xelab, Monday, 16 June 2014 00:18 (nine years ago) link

Maybe Mr Wrench will come back and kill everyone and then sign "screw you guys, yah?" over their inert corpses.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Monday, 16 June 2014 00:26 (nine years ago) link

Hah! That would be cool! Or if he came back for Malvo and murdered him for being a condescending prick!

xelab, Monday, 16 June 2014 00:34 (nine years ago) link

was pretty disappointed we didn't get a malvo/solverson/fbi standoff in the cafe. getting EXTREMELY wound up by malvo's sixth sense bullshit. what was that line about the garden of eden? he's not going to get his comeuppance, though, is he.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 June 2014 11:45 (nine years ago) link

It's being described as "last episode in the season" (as opposed to "last episode"), which might have some impact on how it pans out.

djh, Monday, 16 June 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

Season 2 touted as all new characters/storyline though.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 16 June 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link

Yeah agreed, clemenza also mentioned this upthread, except I really liked it.

Complaints: thought Moonk--the character, and the whole subplot--was a drag. He was obviously meant to evoke Peter Stormare in the movie, but the epilogue to me felt like Noah Hawley wanting to fix (like Tarantino fixing the Manson murders) Anton Chigurth's story in No Country for Old Men. "You don't have to do this" Carla Jean said to Chigurth in No Country; he did, because he couldn't not do it, but Dot manages to find the right words to say. Would have been fine without that last scene and fine without Moonk at all.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 23 February 2024 17:27 (two months ago) link

Hawley has explicitly talked about the similarity: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/fargo-season-5-finale-explained-noah-hawley-1235789647/

Kind of makes sense to drag other Coens properties into Fargo, I think of the show as riffing on their whole deal

Vinnie, Saturday, 24 February 2024 13:13 (two months ago) link

yeah there have always been allusions to other Coen movies, from direct lifts of dialogue to things like a mysterious otherworldly stranger sitting at the bar in a bowling alley (Ray Wise in season 3).

jaymc, Saturday, 24 February 2024 15:15 (two months ago) link

There are boodles of these references I’m noticing. Hotel hallway in Vegas and in season 2 with ref to Barton Fink. The scene where Bear takes his niece out into the woods has the ‘you don’t have to do this’ from Millers Crossing.

“We are going crazy with boredom out at the lake.” The first show she finds on tv is a nature bug documentary like in the movie Fargo.

Hanzee grilling the guy at the store about the couple is also a bit like the No Country for old Men scene.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Saturday, 24 February 2024 15:17 (two months ago) link

White Denim’s cover of “Just Checked In…” was another Big Lebowski ref.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Saturday, 24 February 2024 15:38 (two months ago) link

Munch is the dybbuk

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Sunday, 25 February 2024 15:11 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I liked the way a character would connect some seasons to others, especially Mike Milligan across S2 and S4. 1, 2, and 4 all connected; can't remember if 3 did. I don't think there was anything in 5, was there?

― clemenza, Saturday, 3 February 2024 17:35 (one month ago) link

I was looking for this too. All I found was that Jason Schwartzman (Josto Faddo from S4) narrates the voiceover in episode 5 from Season 5 called "The Tiger."

https://www.escapistmagazine.com/who-narrates-fargo-season-5-episode-5-the-tiger/

felicity, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 06:39 (one month ago) link


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