King Crimson: Classic Or Dud

Definitely, I can't see them touring again. Fripp's obviously not afraid of forming a band, playing 3 gigs and calling it quits.

of course the current tour is already more extensive than I would have imagined.

I have never seen KC live. Was a huge fan of the 70s stuff, but got off the bus in the 80s. Wonder how much of their catalog they're going to dig into and "reconfigure." Mel Collins being back is interesting to me.

Good question. 00s redos of classic Crim tracks were hit & miss- Frakctured was a snooze, Dangerous Curves was alright, but anytime they add a new chapter to LTIA I'm in - Level 5 was one of the better entries imo.

I liked Frakctured better than the original! Dangerous Curves was a remake of what, Talking Drum? I mean if we're going to count that then most of their recent instrumental work just dates back to Red or Discipline (the songs)

I'm also very curious as to what's going to be played here. Fripp has always insisted on being in the "now" and not looking back but if they're not writing any new material I'm not sure what that means exactly. I guess I'll have to go to the Madison show as well.

Dangerous Curves = Devil's Triangle with a disco beat. Looks like we'll be getting Starless, which is cool as hell. That was on my list of classic tracks that could do to be resurrected.

How do we know we're getting starless? (My 2nd favorite KC track)

Fripp posted a pic on Facebook today w/caption " the Back Line at work on Starless..."

I think his Facebook page is a new thing.

https://www.dgmlive.com/news.htm?entry=4664

that's fucking great, it's my favorite KC song. Surprising that Fripp would go for a whole-hog retrospective show, and I was certainly hoping they'd be doing a new album.

what's fripp's fb page?

oh, it's linked there. ok

Looks like the page itself isn't new, but it's news to me that he's posting stuff to it himself. I thought his diary at DGM was his only direct online communication.

looks like his personal page since you can't add him or follow him

could this be where KC finally does a full-on nostalgia show? they've certainly earned it, and knowing Fripp I don't see why he would prefer 10-year old material over 40-year old material as they're both firmly in the past by his standards.

http://d1ya1fm0bicxg1.cloudfront.net/2014/05/king-crimson-tickets_10-04-14_3_5387a435cbf52.png

From the looks of this it sounds like the nostalgia trip. I'm not complaining.

been giving this a listen all day:

http://iapetus-store.com/album/sultry-kissing-lounge-crimson-projekct-tour-2014

Reuter is a pretty great Fripp clone, that's for certain.

Did we ever find out what happened between Fripp and Gunn? I remember there being some rumor of some falling out but never anything definitive.

It sounded like Gunn was just worn down by Fripp being Fripp. I always got the feeling he left for much the same reasons as Bruford. In any event it's too bad because I think on balance I'd prefer Gunn to Levin on this outing.

http://prog.teamrock.com/news/2014-07-01/king-crimson-release-first-new-music

Pretty good

Yeah I'd like to hear a whole album of that stuff, sans Jakko.

well if you were to tell me the lineup for KC was the one on this track then I'd say we're doing just fine. Anyway I have no complaint with this minute, and do hope it leads to a new album.

Sounds good. What the heck will Pat have to do, what with Bill keeping the time and Gavin playing like three drummers?

(This is a perfect time to note that the first Rieflin solo album, with Fripp and Gunn, is pretty great. Rieflin sings like Sylvian!)

Very excited about these upcoming gigs, but wondering if I am $90 + fees excited. And those are the cheap seats.

Odds of seeing anything called Crimson again are slim. I'd go---but are there even good seats left in Chicago?

If anyone has a ticket to the SF Friday show and wants to trade for Saturday webmail me.

Yeah, there are seats for two of the three nights. This band is so nerdy it can't even instantly sell out three club dates.

Jesus - anything other than balcony seats were gone in SF after the first week.

How many nights?

2 nights

I slept on it for a few too many days, no idea why. Ticket resellers are putting floor seats at $220 - too rich for me. I'll just be happy to hear the show.

Hmm. Well, I guess we have an extra night and ... fewer Primus fans?

I think I'm happy to listen, too. Harrison is the only guy whose skills barely translate to your ears. You have to keep an eye on him to know what he's up to.

crystal ball is telling me I'm too broke to see Crimson :(

So, wait, is this being billed as a farewell tour? I've seen some people call it that, and other people deny, no formal announcement from the central camp, but then stuff like this:

https://slotix.com/tours/king-crimson/farewell-tour-2014/806e73182a62cb86338e66df5f128b58VwR2BFV=

Not what's linked, but that it does call it a "farewell tour 2014" in the link. If this was indeed my last chance to see the band, it could be worth $100. Then again, Fripp has a habit of comebacks as well as going full hermit. He could disappear forever or tour every year until he kicks. hmmm ...

seems weird that the tour officially has a name 'past, present, and future' if it were a farewell tour, but who knows.

Esp. weird he would call it "future" after saying this version has no plans to record.

Well, he hates his past, too, so that doesn't leave much to celebrate or say farewell to:

Robert Fripp: “My professional life has been so devoid of joy”

https://m.facebook.com/UncutMagazine/posts/873569076006412

By "joy" I'm pretty sure he means "money."

yeah man i heard he had plenty of joy touring with eno
hehehehe

fripp heads should get the upcoming Heldon reissue - Allez-Téia! I'm listening to it right now. There is even a song called In Wake Of King Fripp.

How is it compared with the Cuneiform reissue? Also: Heldon/Richard Pinhas: S&D

i'm not sure! i think this is just a vinyl reish on superior viaduct.

anyone nab any of the recent Crimson vinyl reissues? Bought Red today (my fave) but have not listened yet.

Completely joyless, I heard.

Hmmm

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/983756_10204866033075152_5762559804329043367_n.jpg

i'm not sure! i think this is just a vinyl reish on superior viaduct.

― tylerw, Monday, August 25, 2014 3:49 PM

correct, it is a vinyl reissue whereas the Cuneiform was CD. I assume the same master tapes were used.

Crimson YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYru1JoobMQ

OK, that drum trio is genuinely compelling and listenable. Suddenly I am psyched.

no e-drums or triggers, hallelujah