Owen Pallett -- In Conflict

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So I had some quick thoughts and all:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/in-conflict-20140527

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link

you can tell there was a lot of work done on making this look and sound amazing on the vinyl version - it's truly excellent

jamiesummerz, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link

"The Passions" is real nice

macklin' rosie (crüt), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

THIS FUCKING ALBUM

On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link

i would like to echo dan's enthusiasm as i finally listened to the record while reading the lyric sheet this afternoon

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link

essentially this album is more devastating than i even initially thought

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link

I can't remember the last time I was so excited to hear an album with the lyric sheet in hand.

Funk autocorrect (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link

not since I heard Discreet Music.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link

this is great
the only recent album that it kind of reminds me of is these new puritans
just in terms of balancing indie rock songwriting and odd modern classical arrangements and composition
which i mean as a compliment! i love TNP and this is great
but if you guys don't agree i will retract my statement instead of argue

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link

this isn't really chilly though, it's more emotional
TNP is kind of chilly like Talk Talk (in feel)

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link

Just got my vinyl through the post. Domino did well getting it here on the day of release. It looks beautiful and is sounding fantastic. Have only listened to the NPR stream once, wanted to wait until I got my actual copy to hear it again.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link

the albums i associate most with it so far don't resemble it musically but maybe formally? so i get the tnp comparison. for instance, maybe because owen's been talking about tori a lot, i've been thinking of this record in conjunction with under the pink, this really expansive vision fit into these skewed pop songs. or shiina ringo's karuki samen no kuri hana which is a similar kind of interior pop with gorgeous diversions

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 23:46 (nine years ago) link

shiina ringo comparison is crazily apt, great pick-up

English cunt read Guardian (imago), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link

solid nyt review today
i feel like this is the one that dude rides to HIPSTER STATUS and yay

And here's his fancy new site:

http://www.owenpalletteternal.com/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 00:03 (nine years ago) link

Apparently In Conflict is 50 minutes and 90 seconds long, lol

English cunt read Guardian (imago), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 00:07 (nine years ago) link

As I said elsewhere in strict resemblance terms the album I'm reminded of most is Coloma's Finery.

But I really feel Brad's Under The Pink comparison. "Pretty Good Year" totally fits the narrative except it's in second/third person rather than first. Also "The Riverbed" = "Cornflake Girl" / "The Passions" = "Icicle".

Tim F, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 01:48 (nine years ago) link

I'm only fairly familiar with Amos's work but for me I'm hearing a fair bit of Hounds of Love in here - especially in the way the string and orchestral arrangements meet with the synth-led stuff.

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 08:16 (nine years ago) link

btw not that i necessarily need to compare owen's great, individual record to even more things but imo this year's analogue for this record is meshell ndegeocello's

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 13:07 (nine years ago) link

"The Passions" is real nice

― macklin' rosie (crüt), Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:05 PM (11 hours ago)

it's such a sad song, isn't it? I was at his Boston show, and he announced it as "a friendly reminder that death is hanging over us" or something to that effect. the lyrics aren't particularly depressing (bittersweet nostalgia + Smiths) but his delivery is so mournful that it's hard not to want to parse it for darker subtexts. it's chilling the way it glides so seamlessly from synth to string section and back again.

tao lin wolf (unregistered), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 13:29 (nine years ago) link

I wish one person would step into this thread and trash this album to dispel the appearance of sycophantism. this lovefest is really getting out of hand!

(but I think this album is great so idk)

tao lin wolf (unregistered), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link

my considered opinion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPcLaO4ey4g

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link

haw

tao lin wolf (unregistered), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link

it's up on spotify, yay

i mean not yay for owen's wallet i guess but yay nonetheless

Both He Poos Clouds and Heartland made my year-end top 5, though the latter felt like a considerable step up in terms of craft. On first listen, In Conflict doesn't seem significantly more impressive to me, but it's obviously still great.

jaymc, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link

Can this stupid week (the one that, for me, ends this coming Tuesday) please be over so I can just spend some real time with this record?

Funk autocorrect (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link

after playing "The Riverbed" incessantly I kind of want to go through every other album in my record collection and replace the guitar with violin

feels like it would be most transformative on Ministry-influenced industrial metal

On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link

personalized listening: heard "I Am Not Afraid" line as "I haven't had a fuck in years"

but yes seems like a tour de force on first hearing

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 May 2014 02:13 (nine years ago) link

Gah now I wont not hear it that way, thanks Morbs ;P

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Thursday, 29 May 2014 04:43 (nine years ago) link

I went to buy this today at the record shop where I normally get sneered at (shut UP I do not buy that many cut-price I------- albums) and the clerk took it from me and said "Great choice! EXCELLENT album!" and now I'm wondering if Owen bribed them all to say that.

Branwell with an N, Thursday, 29 May 2014 13:57 (nine years ago) link

wanna hear that buffy sainte-marie album

riot grillz (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 May 2014 14:16 (nine years ago) link

and regret not having this album twenty-some years ago, that i might write alarmingly earnest letters to the Artist

riot grillz (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 May 2014 14:17 (nine years ago) link

i was thinking in the back of my mind that "i am not afraid" maybe had something to do with tg

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 May 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

but that's also my own association with the word "discipline"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 May 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

Still listening to this album a lot, still think I prefer Heartland but I've lived with that record for four years now and there aren't many things in the world I'd rather listen to.

Will never not get goosebumps at:

"Your light is spent! Your light is spent!" I cried,
As I drove the iron spike into Owen's eyes.
The sun sped cross the plains like that cinematic moment where
Humanity and nature collide.
When you think, "Everything's gonna be all right,"
Just before the hero gets a bullet in his side.

online hardman, Thursday, 29 May 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link

^^lol I wrote almost an exact copy of this post yesterday right down to mentioning that particular verse, but I got distracted and forgot to press submit.

But yeah agreed - I said AOTY upthread and meant it, but I'm not sure if this is better than Heartland. idk I guess I prefer the Final Fantasy side more?

Roz, Thursday, 29 May 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link

Heartland is an all-time favourite for me. So far, I have not really been able to connect with this in the same way, as far as my personal taste goes. I don't dislike it by any stretch: hooks get in my head; the skills are undeniable. Maybe it's just a matter of time. The three songs that were released ahead of time are still my favourites.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 29 May 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link

Very hard to compare them as I've listened to Heartland a lot since it came out and have only played In Conflict maybe five times now. My first impressions are there is nothing on In Conflict that I love as much as Lewis Takes Off His Shirt and Tryst With Mephistopheles but overall it's more consistently enjoyable album. Love that he's totally fulfilling all that promise that he showed on the Final Fantasy albums. They're both really good albums but what he's done since has been such a huge leap in, well everything really.

Very excited that he's coming to Minnesota in September. Haven't seen him since around He Poos Clouds.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 29 May 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link

My first impressions are there is nothing on In Conflict that I love as much as Lewis Takes Off His Shirt and Tryst With Mephistopheles but overall it's more consistently enjoyable album.

Those are the exact two songs that will probably keep Heartland firmly entrenched as my favourite Owen Pallett album. But if enough of In Conflict ends up growing on me to the degree that "The Riverbed" has...

Funk autocorrect (cryptosicko), Thursday, 29 May 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link

Song for five and six is what's up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr_SbrFIuKA

my feeling as well

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 29 May 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link

it's def in my top ten
this album has me listening to he poos clouds again (which is prob still my fave full length, dunno if that's nostalgia or what but there i am)

really loving this still

kinda wish the first album wasn't titled "he poos clouds" i woulda checked it earlier

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 May 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link

i seem to recall his comment on that was that it was meant to be a compliment, like "she's so sweet, she shits whipped cream" but yeah, we've all gotten older and wiser

p sure i only checked out the first album because of the title

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 29 May 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I still really like "This Is the Dream of Win and Reg" and "That's When the Audience Died".

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 29 May 2014 22:46 (nine years ago) link


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