...And Justice For All: 20 Years Later

Also the way the heavy part comes in all off time and ominous after the wimpy acoutsic intro. It's badass. Plus I think Cliff wrote the 'lyrics'

The love for "Frayed Ends of Sanity" here is baffling - come on guys. That Wizard of Oz shit at the beginning?

i was thinking of making a poll of songs that use that wizard of oz shit (prince, mos def, etc.).

listen to the riff underneath the solo in "frayed ends of sanity", that shit is awesome.

I'd love to see that poll! (Can't forget "Jungle Love".)

Me, I really could've done without "Harvester of Sorrow". But then we'd have had an 8-song album with a configuration/track sequence a little too similar to a watered-down Master of Puppets, which itself was a kinda rehash of Ride the Lightning. Diminishing returns, etc.

AND JASON FOR ALL! YOU PEOPLE, SHEESH!

i didn't name it!

everybody who says To Live is To Die isn't good probably drinks their own pee.

the former prime minister of india Morarji Desai drank his own urine for decades until his death at the age of 99. I'm not sure how he felt about that song however.

All this I cannot bear to witness.

AND JASON FOR ALL! YOU PEOPLE, SHEESH!

i just found it. it's called and justice for jason. it doesn't sound all that great. the dude who made it really overdid the bass, imho

didn't Cliff steal the 'lyrics' from To Live is to Die from some sci fi movie or something

It was a speech by Merlin from Excalibur!

The only good tune is "To Live Is To Die."

My god this is wrong.

Just listening to the intro to the title track and thinking it's one of the prettiest and saddest acoustic guitar passages I know.

this album is grate! Legend of Zelda metal!!!

production's a little bit eh but this album forever imo \m/ O_O \m/

I am my own best friend

that's a great record too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnatnzxxtFE

Some guy has done his own re-mix (upping Jason's bass) using the Rockband game....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAvwod7BBK0

This record doesn't work with bass. That version of "Blackened" just sounds like...I don't know, Anthrax or something. The thin sound is half the point. AJFA is actually my favorite of the first four Metallica records, and the sound is a huge part of that.

total classic this album. oh how the mighty have fallen

The thin sound is half the point.

Yeah, the record's like an icey transmission from the wastelands.

Yeah, thin but effective. And as with so much metal, who really needs to hear the bass?

this album is a rare one that hasn't changed in standing with me since I first heard it. I like it a lot, but it has a dreadful middle including "Frayed Ends of Sanity", and "Harvester of Sorrow", which I"m sorry to say is still real boring, except for the middle instrumental break.

but the surrounding tracks, including the blistering Dyer's Eve, make up for it.

including "Frayed Ends of Sanity", and "Harvester of Sorrow", which I"m sorry to say is still real boring, except for the middle instrumental break.

The middle thrash out in Frayed is fucking epic, and I quite like the chorus as well.

Dyer's Eve is Hetfield's most heartfelt lyric and vocal performance ever, I think.

"Frayed End" has a good instrumental break in the middle, which would have enhanced a good-great song, but to me I can't get into it because I hate the verse and the chorus.

To Live is to Die though I love.

harvester of sorrow is actually one of the tracks i liked

This might actually be my favourite Metallica album by now.

Second to MoP for me.

for me it's MOP, then RTL, and it varies but is usually AJFA after that cuz Kill Em All is good but has a few tracks I'm not into.

sometimes RTL jumps to number one. the title track is just....wau

RTL for me personally

30th anniversary edition on its way

https://youtu.be/MqL04r775p4

"Metallica celebrate the 30th anniversary of their fourth album ...And Justice for All with a new “definitive” reissue. The remastered album will be released in a number of formats, including an enormous deluxe box set featuring live recordings, rough mixes, demos, interviews, and much more. It will also be available in standard edition on CD, vinyl, cassette, and digitally. It’s due out November 2 via the band’s owned Blackened Recordings."

This is still my favourite Metallica album. Dyer's Eve, some days, is my favourite Metallica song.

Don't think I'm that fussed about a reissue. I got enough thinly-baked-Walkman-hour dreams to last me a lifetime.

Album's great. Master of Puppets boxed set was awesome (once).

at this point i think master will always be "the best" but justice is probably the one i'm most interested in listening to today

Alternating beat syncopation on Blackened gets me every time

This album is a monument, still the Metallica album I pull out, and I keep finding things (usually the cool riffs under solo sections that I didn't notice before)

Frayed Ends of Sanity has the best one (and everything else)

Maybe it'll inspire another debate about the bass tracks.....

Oh god, I hope not - at this point the whole thing about Jason's bass on this record is the least possible interesting line of discussion - some of Metallica's most complex/intricate compositions are on this album, and the production has aged quite well - given what it could have sounded like with all the production trappings that were the norm in 1988.

I personally am looking forward to the vinyl Guitar Hero mix included in the deluxe box

i ordered this cd the other day, think it might be a good one....: https://www.discogs.com/Metallica-And-Justice-For-All/release/1695616

Love this record. Will either buy the single or triple disc version.

This - from the super deluxe box set - might be a back-door way of putting a bass-ier mix out there:

CD 5: Rough Mixes from the Vault

Blackened (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
…And Justice for All (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
Eye of the Beholder (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
One (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
The Shortest Straw (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
Harvester of Sorrow (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
The Frayed Ends of Sanity (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
To Live Is to Die (Acoustic Intro) (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
To Live Is to Die (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
Dyers Eve (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
Breadfan (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
The Prince (Work in Progress Rough Mix)

Just watched some of that video - the new version of the 2LP fits both discs into a single wide sleeve. The original (which I owned) was a gatefold. I'm not a vinyl person at all but that's kinda chintzy to me.

i think this is my favorite metallica record. i feel like i'm still learning things about it (to echo jordan's sentiment upthread). also "blackened" just routinely blows my mind, i really think it's their best opener

"to live is to die" is such a lovely instrumental too, so many gorgeous melodic choices. i hear echoes of that approach in "junior dad" too

and the riff in "dyers eve" sounds like someone madly sawing at a cello it's incredible

Frayed Ends of Sanity has the best one (and everything else)

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The build up/break leading up to the solo in FEoS is exhilarating.

Around the time of Load, Hetfield called this album "the epitome of showing off" ... in a way it is, in the sense that it shows Metallica going all-out to deliver a series of complex, winding songs with multiple time signature changes, instrumental passages and sections that are ferociously performed. Of course, this is what makes the record fucking great.

Hetfield's an absolute master of "our last album sucked, but the new one rules" interview quotes.

what's weird about this album for me specifically is that when I was a kid I had a copied cassette version of this album, which was copied from another copied cassette, so I always thought it sounded kind of weird and not very dynamic, but always assumed that's what happened when you listened to a cassette that was a copy of a copy. Then 10 years later as an adult, I randomly buy this album on CD when stumbling upon it in a used CD store and I put it on thinking I would finally hear this album the way it's supposed to sound and it sounds basically the same as my cassette copy.

Still my most listened to Metallica album by far, that shitty cassette copy got a lot of plays.