"Beyond the Corner": New Miles Davis Box Set

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I do remember a discussion about whether or not Miles had been listening to Can before OTC, the consensus was that if he had been we'd know about it because he was "very proud" of his European listening habits.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 3 March 2007 00:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I bet it was Dom Leone...

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 3 March 2007 04:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man I'm listening to the Cellar Door Session improv #1 and just heard Jarrett hit a bunch of the melodic figures he uses throughout the Koln concert. Freaked me out.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

so should I buy the Jack Johson box for $40? what sayeth ILM jazz DB's? I saw it today used.

sleeve, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 01:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Probably. I've been eyeing that box for a while myself.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 01:48 (seventeen years ago) link

BUY IT! [I got mine used for $30! In fact, thanks to a certain local record store, i got Bitches Brew and In a Silent Way for that much too. I paid full price for Cellar Door Sessions.]

fukasaku tollbooth, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 01:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I need to get Cellar Door before Jack Johnson. I want as many versions of What I Say and Honky Tonk as possible.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha yes!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
Let's revive this.

I stand by my assertion that In Concert: Live At Philharmonic is terribly underrated...

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

well it ain't underrated by me

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link

"Rated X" live! LIVE!!!

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link

for anyone who's interested, BMG Jazz Club members can get ridiculous deals on these Miles box sets -- Jack Johnson for $10, Bitches Brew and Silent Way for $15, and others too. You have to sign up for their sketchy deal and they sort of screw you on shipping, but you get free CDs -- still worth it in the long run I think.

tylerw, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

"Rated X" live! LIVE!!!

Whoa.

Bill in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think the live version of Rated X stands up to the Studio.
Miles isn't playing the organ on it, for one thing. It's just not nearly
as frantic. But it's still a cool record.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link

The live version is cool because it slowly comes together piece by piece, as compared with the studio version which attacks you like a steak-knife-wielding octopus from the first second all the way to the end.

unperson, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link

attacks you like a steak-knife-wielding octopus

That's a great sensation, though.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

The live "Rated X" is very, very good. And unperson is right: the thing that makes it so interesting is that instead of blasting on, full-tilt right away like the (seriously awesome) studio version does, it sort of slowly coheres. By contrast the Laswell version is kind of toothless.

To my ears, In Concert (w/ "Rated X" and the epic, 27-minute "Ife") has more of the tribal, African thing Miles was going for in this era than any of his other 70's releases. It's more polyrhythmic, percussive and varied in texture, and in general has a bit more space w/o the second guitar.

It's a bit ironic, given Miles himself (or Quincy Troupe, anyway) wrote that he was getting deeper into that sort of thing as he went along.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 22:23 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Holy mutha 'o' God!

$120!!!

Gah!

Weep for my unborn children's future.

JN$OT, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 14:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, why is it so much? Everything I've said says it's 6 cds. But at full price ($140, before the discount), that comes out to $23 a cd. Even at $120 that's $20 a cd. I guess they've thinking that anyone still buying Miles in 2007 has serious cash flow?

Euler, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link

it's SO GREAT

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:03 (sixteen years ago) link

No doubt! But that price!??!

JN$OT, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link

This summer I put on "Rated X" in the car, and after about a minute my four-year old son had his hands over his ears, and begged me to turn it off, because he said it was scaring him.

Euler, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, that sounds about right. He should at least thank his lucky stars that you didn't put on Agharta or Dark Magus.

JN$OT, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link

This box is ridiculously, unbelievably great. The unreleased stuff is in the same spirit as the album stuff, but totally different. Raunchier, tighter...there's one track from 1975 that's almost Chuck Mangione-like in its melodic jazzfunkiness, but then Miles's solo is this wave of contemptuous discord running straight through the middle.

unperson, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link

*still* waiting for this (but thanks to unperson for getting me started!)

Dominique, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

It might be the best thing ever made (the box).

Andy K, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Not the box itself but the music that makes up the box.

Andy K, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

In the way that it makes you want to stop listening to everything else for a week or so.

Andy K, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

found a place that is selling it for $99.99, but you have to pre-order it:

http://ssl.adhost.com/jazzloft/baskets/pos.cfm?CD=13035

Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

This better come with the biggest book ever!

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Honestly I don't know when I am going to be able to justify shelling out $120 in one pop for a CD set where I already own the central record, but boy does this sound amazing.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

gimme

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 16:12 (sixteen years ago) link

50 pounds from Amazon.uk. Works out to about 78 euros for me (inc. s/h to Greece). Not bad. Probably not a very good idea to order from the US, though.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000TLMWMO/202-6023791-6219064

JN$OT, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link

stop making me want this ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link

If I spent $30 bucks on the Rhino Handmade Cactus live thing (which was well worth it), I can sure do $120 for this.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I jsut found the Jack Johnson box for $26 so now I have money left over for this. Maybe in two months...

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 19:42 (sixteen years ago) link

CD Universe has it for $105.54!
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?PID=7484370&style=music&frm=frooglemusic

Sara Sara Sara, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 19:46 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Great Matos review of the box (btw, I think the last line was appropriate given the album's history, and made me laugh out loud, besides {hmm., maybe you were right in wanting it cut after all])! Can't wait to actually hear the damn thing.:

http://www.citypaper.com/music/story.asp?id=14562

JN$OT, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 08:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I may the damn thing even though I'm no fan of the original.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 13:07 (sixteen years ago) link

is it actually out? amazon has suddenly shifted to 4-6 weeks...

toby, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 13:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Amazon.uk release date has it coming out on Oct. 10. Oh the wait...

JN$OT, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link

That's a great review.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah - man that's an ugly cover tho

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link

don't think that's the actual cover -- just an illustration to go with the review ...
i want this set bad, but i'll probably have to wait til xmas. dang.

tylerw, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link

"Apparently, Vince Wilburn (Miles' nephew) had some issue with it and pulled it at the 11th hour. This happened with the Cellar Door set and delayed it a couple months IIRC. Rumor has it it should be released the first week of October."

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I wonder if I could get a pair of "Vote Miles" dolphin trunks made at neighborhoodies or someplace similar.

I know for damn sure I wouldn't have the guts to wear them.

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

i think the artwork is the figures from the album sleeve somehow transposed onto the brushed-bronze box the Jack Johnson set came in

stevie, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.miles-beyond.com/images/albums/otcset.jpg

stevie, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link

okay that's much better!

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Agreed that the On the Corner set is one of the best ones in the series (In a Silent Way the perennial favorite, of course).

This outtake is stunning, J. Never heard it before. Have always thought Miles the balladeer was as alive and potent as ever in the fusion era, just not as prolific. Seems he was leaning on the organ a bit in this one, so even if he's not playing trumpet, I can't help but think there's still that undeniable haunting Miles quality to it.


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