terror twilight

i can't believe i'm defending pavement on ilm, the home of pavementlove, but, really, ALL their albums are pretty good! i mean, if you like them, i can't imagine NOT listening to one or another. they are all very pavement-y and they all have their moments. terror twilight is hardly some aberration in their catalog. it sounds exactly like a pavement album!

You have weird ears!"

nah, that's pretty right on. i recall being excited, then hearing it, then loving it, then putting some between it. coming back to it a year later, it already sounded dull. there ARE some songs here and there, but they really didn't translate onto the album all that well. stand out would be Speak, See, Remeber/ the Hexx.
and a few b-sides, but, overall it's just pretty meh, and as was said 'out with a whimper'. it's just background.

"Watch out for the gypsy children in electric dresses, they're insane/I hear they live in crematoriums and smoke your remains"

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-- Matthew Perpetua! (matthewfluxblo...), September 12th, 2006 7:46 PM. (Matthew Perpetua!) (later)

still selling those on ebay, matthew?

Scott OTM upthread. I never understood the massive contrasts in opinions about Pavement albums - they're all good and they're all Pavement-y. But maybe fans who came to them via their early stuff are looking for something else that they decided to shed after CRCR (or even Slanted). I'm not such a big fan of Slanted and Westing, but if you take each album on its own merit rather than comparing it to other works, you'll see they're all pretty good.

I know I'm pretty much alone with my opinion. But for some reason, Pavement never GRABBED me after CRCR. I can't put my finger on it. But at the time, I remember thinking they had turned into an REM - just releasing variation after variation of their theme. I guess I liked em better scrappy, when the post punk influences were stronger than the jangle.

as far as checking out other albums, i've never read anyone saying, "oh, this one is really something!" instead, it's "they're all pretty good."

Lip balm on watery clay
Relationships hey hey hey...

^^^best song on the album

platform blues

"Major Leagues" = my life after thirty.

people who don't like this album just because it doesn't sound like slanted and enchanted should listen again.

It's not one of their very best because it sounds cobbled together instad of conceived, hasty instead of thought-through, but I still love.

xp
Their worst. Some of the songs are among their best but as an album it sure sounds like they were having a miserable time.

awesome album!

that was me. though i think maria likes pavement fine.

haha, i love this album. might not be the pavement album i reach for all the most, but i like it whenever i do reach for it. looking at the tracklisting now, i don't think there's a single song I don't like on it ... which i can't say about BTC these days. though the live versions of some of this stuff might be better, esp. "folk jam."

pavement threads on ILM are always funny. WHAT IS THE BEST ALBUM!?

I feel I need to listen to this now. Oddly enough I watched Slow Century last night

I pretty much hate the Nigel Godrich production (I usually do!) and at least half the songs are either cringeworthy or aimless but "Spit on a Stranger", "Major Leagues", and "Carrot Rope" are all aces

yesss carrot rope

The Hexx is the jam too

I like Cream Of Gold. It is my least favourite Pavement album though. And not because it doesn't sound like S&E, I like Brighten The Corners just fine.

the problem with it is its the beginning of SM's guitar noodling-focused solo career and it sounds like it

Yeah -- BTE is my favorite Pavement.

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Shakey, there's hardly any noodling on the first and third solo albums.

I think I like the first Malkmus solo better than TT. He saved all the good songs for that one I reckon

ugh I got rid of that first solo album almost immediately - altho I think it was the horrible lyrics more than the tuneless guitar playing that turned me off it.

Church on White was nice.

off came those awful toe rings = off came that awful record more like

I am a non-lover of Pavement (a liker, though) and I think it's great. I bought it because I loved "Spit on a Stranger" and wanted to put it on mixtapes (I was 14!! and had only heard Slanted). "Folk Jam" what is wrong with that? It's funny! I love the song "Billie," am i the only one? Once me and a buddy were smoking bowls and looking through old CDs and I pulled it and skimmed it looking for "Billie" and he says to me "This is easily the most boring thing that you listen to" and he may have been right. When the chorus came on he was nodding his head, though, cause man that chorus rocks!

"Billie" did the slow fadeout better than Radiohead at the time -- and it's funnier.

I forgot the line about architecture students! "Never build a building 'til you're 50, what kind of life is that?" This is so good.

My boyfriend & I in high school got in a tiff about whether "carrot rope" was about a wang. He'd asked me once if I thought it was about a wang and I had apparently said no in a manner that suggested he was screwy for even asking the question. But we were listening to it one day and when I said it was "an awesome song about a wang" he got mad and said I was always trying to make him feel like a pervert.

I pretty much hate the Nigel Godrich production (I usually do!) and at least half the songs are either cringeworthy or aimless but "Spit on a Stranger", "Major Leagues", and "Carrot Rope" are all aces

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, August 6, 2008 3:44 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

^^^this. the drumming didn't help either

it was seriously a couplet i found solace in when going through issues with my partner. it would repeat in my head

Ripple on watery clay
relationships hey hey hey

there's something so comforting in that

and yeah, "you kiss like a rock but you know i need it anyway" is a beaut