Still - the Kaiser Chiefs would be nowhere near my top 100 albums of 2005 let alone all time!!
― Daniel Paton (angriest dog), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:48 (eighteen years ago) link
Long urls behave exactly the same way as tinyurls when you click on them.
― Nixonshead, Thursday, 26 January 2006 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes it does. For the purpose of that list anyways.
― Harrison Barr (Petar), Thursday, 26 January 2006 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 26 January 2006 03:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Proves NME are not completely lost after all. I have always considered "Head On The Door" their pinnacle. The Cure have always been an excellent pop band when they have tried, whereas the somewhat overproduced "Pornography"-meets-"Be Here Now" orchestral goth of "Disintegration" bores me when I try to listen to it as a whole.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 26 January 2006 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― disco violence (disco violence), Thursday, 26 January 2006 04:52 (eighteen years ago) link
1) The Rolling Stones - Exile On Main St. 19722) The Specials - S/T 19793) The Clash - London Calling 19794) Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks 19785) The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed 19696) Led Zeppelin - II 19697) The Cure - The Head On The Door 19858) David Bowie - Hunky Dory 19719) The Beatles - Rubber Soul 196510) Polly Harvey - Dry 199211) The Stone Roses - S/T 198912) Elvis Costello - This Year's Model 197813) Black Sabbath - Paranoid 197014) Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner 200315) Primal Scream - Scremadelica 199116) The Beatles - Revolver 196617) Elastica - S/T 199518-27) tie:
Led Zeppelin - IV 1971The Futureheads - S/T 2004Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92 1992 *The Beta Band - The 3 E.P.s 1998Cornershop - When I Was Born For The 7th Time 1997David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders From Mars 1972Portishead - Dummy 1994The Who - My Generation 1965Ride - Nowhere 1990The Streets - Original Pirate Material 2002
― Brian Jones (Brian Jones), Thursday, 26 January 2006 08:19 (eighteen years ago) link
...
5) Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not 2006
I know it's a shameful thing to get angry at these lists, but I have to say that one stings.
― James.Cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 26 January 2006 08:45 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Geir Hongro
*scratches head*
Then realizes where this comment is coming from so what can I say. That being said I wouldn't want Geir any other way!
Never thought the Cure would be compared to a very bad Oasis record.
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Hahaha, I'll give them "forgotten" on this one! Haven't heard of them since reading about them in NME in '86 or something (ie the year given here is way off). Is it really a "gem"? What an unsuspected choice.
― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Nothing about it (the list) is very surprising, really, is it?
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:55 (eighteen years ago) link
Are The Undertones count Irish too?
― zeus (zeus), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Madam, I Am Not a Doctor (noodle vague), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Deluxe (Damian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Also Hunky Dory as Bowie's best - uh? ( for me would come after Low/Heroes/Station/Ziggy/Lodger/Dogs/Young Americans/Aladdin in some sort of order)
― Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:49 (eighteen years ago) link
I bow to your superior knowledge. Nevertheless 'though (according to AMG) he grew up in California and relocated to New York; but the name of the band and the guests he has on the album (Rufus Wainwright, Devendra Banhart, Lou "New York" Reed) are hardly condsive to producing something quintessentially British, are they?
"There's two Clash albums on that list."
Bugger, you're right, of course. OK then, the 1st / s/t one's OK; but London Calling most definitely isn't.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:56 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't think it's necessarily supposed to be his best, merely his most British.... although, re-reading the rest of the list, maybe I'm assuming that the NME editorship would have actually bothered to give the subject a little bit of thought, when in fact this clearly isn't the case.... nevertheless, his most British album by absolute miles must surely be his 1st / self-titled / (aka) Love Me 'Til Tuesday?
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:01 (eighteen years ago) link
This is NME shit by numbers, pure and simple. CLOSE THREAD!
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:21 (eighteen years ago) link
Some of the defenders are right, there are good albums but no thought was put behind the order. I posted which decade these albums came out in for a reason. Rock was new in the 60's going into the 70’s so the best albums where from that period, period. There is no way the 90’s deserve 31 spots with the 2000’s having 15 spots so far (Kasier Chiefs?), so by the end this decade it will be the best decade ever? If you are a writer for a major publication, no matter how much you like the AM album, number 5 compared to history is ridiculous.
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link
That's a really bad argument. Best novels = written in 1740s? Best paintings = done on cave walls? Best movies = 5 minutes of a bloke washing a horse?
― Madam, I Am Not a Doctor (noodle vague), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link
True. Siouxsie (The Scream) should be in, along with The Raincoats (either s/t or Odyshape), The Slits maybe. Spice Girls? Who else?
― Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Madam, I Am Not a Doctor (noodle vague), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:49 (eighteen years ago) link
XTC should be in there : Black Sea prob. GO2 is better.
xpost Teardrop Explodes - YES!
― Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― stew!, Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:12 (eighteen years ago) link
OT(fucking)M
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link
It's bullshit, undeserving of respect or serious consideration.
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link
It's not looking good, is it?
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link
The built-in redundancy of these lists drives me nuts. It HAS to be one artist-one album. I mean what is the sense in having two Pulp, two Swide and two of the 'britpop' Blur albums in there, when so little new ground is covered between each pair. They're all shit records anyway, but forgodsake CHOOSE between them Likewise Led Zep II and IV. I can see the sense in Bowie having say Ziggy and Low in there, maybe...but not Ziggy and Hunky Dory.
I'd have Soft Machine, Cream, Buggles, Yardbirds, Adverts, Sandie Shaw, The Move, Leftfield, Floyd in there.
― Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Kirsty McColl.
― Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Actually, I haven't really read it in so long I don't know if they're being as bullish as they were in the Britpop years w/r/t sidelining all other music that is not guitar-pop-rock in origin.
It's more that they're just (as Nick put it) re-writing history via ommission of all that "other" stuff (electronics, women, black music) and hoping it's readers are dumb enough not to notice.
I actually feel like they've gone too far with it for even the stereotypical 17 year old in Doncaster not to feel like their intelligence is being insulted this time... but time will tell!
xpost - Dr.C, I'm probably just trying to convince myself (and it hasn't worked) that this list is irrelevant, and doesn't need dissecting. Trust me it gets my goat too!!
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm not sure of all of that.
They have some major flaw, some of which these post have pointed out but to totally dismiss all of it is rather hollow.
They realize the brillance of Super Furry Animals but forgot the Boo Raldeys so I have some major concerns to do dismiss the whole is list is a cop out, IMO.
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link
But when the methodology has been so transparently rigged... The whole thing loses a credibility which is kind of important to your (my) belief in the honesty of the process.
I mean the Q list makes more 'sense' than this, and the bias is understandable because it's a naturally occuring one. This NME list is like a political statement.
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link
We are coming from the same place, just going about it differently.
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link