Curve: C or D?

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Ah, the curse of bad shoes. I always say when your favorite artist starts wearing bad shoes, you know it's over right then and there.

bimble (bimble), Saturday, 8 May 2004 03:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Gift is just OK and very much in line with the formula, so it really depends how much more Curve material you need. The Kevin Shields tracks are nothing to write home about either.
I guess I would have loved this if it was the first thing I heard bythem.

Ned, what is this cover of Overground you speak of? You mean the Siouxsie track? I def. should check that out

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Saturday, 8 May 2004 08:33 (nineteen years ago) link

What was terrible about her shoes? If I'm mistaken, when I saw Curve, she was wearing brothel-creepers....and a bad denim jacket with the collar up.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 8 May 2004 11:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Funnily enough my views on Curve and Garbage are the opposite to Dr C - I love both at them at their most glossy and gleaming (Cuckoo and 2.0 respectively), precisely because they're so mechanically pristine.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 8 May 2004 12:28 (nineteen years ago) link

That horrible gauzy early 90's production which Curve used is a horrible device used in the main by bands seeking to conceal their inability to come up with dynamics, structure or melodies. Strip it away and it would reveal.....nothing.

This is deeply ludicrous, of course. The thing that initially attracted me to Curve was the juxtaposition of Toni's great melodic lines against the feedback/dance beat. Plus there are always those huge bass lines...

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 8 May 2004 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Plus there are always those huge bass lines...

Damn right.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 8 May 2004 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link

i'll 3rd that.

dyson (dyson), Saturday, 8 May 2004 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah, the curse of bad shoes. I always say when your favorite artist starts wearing bad shoes, you know it's over right then and there.

this is true. live they seemed pretty dull, it was all a bit thick and blurry. their love for swervedriver was always offputting too.

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 8 May 2004 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
This just in....CURVE HAVE OFFICIALLY SPLIT!


http://www.curve.co.uk/news.htm

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago) link

How is this any different from their mid-90's split?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe they mean it this time?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link

God this is harder than when Bonk split.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Well, it certainly reads like Toni split.

So, speaking of Curve, is there any way to get all those recent (and out of print) EPs besides sending a check to Dean?

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 18 March 2005 13:33 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
For me, "Perish" has overtaken "Coast is Clear" as the best Curve song ever.

"Perish" is beyond awesome. It's also the saddest noise-rock track ever.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 7 April 2005 07:37 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
you know a recent trip to theother side of the country meant i went on the obligatory prowl for Nasty Rox Inc's cd version of CA$H ( a personal quest whenever i visit a new place), instead i came away with cd copy of Doppelganger, an album which i never heard when released, despite the fact that i loved the first 2 ep's, i just assumed the album comprised of all the tracks from the eps - double fucking doh on my behalf! and i probably wasn't doing the noise thing in 92 ..

anyways .. i definitely side on the CLASSIC. that cold hearted drum machine pounding away while the noise shreds the paintwork and toni does her echoed goth thing is just wonderful and fits in perfectly with my current moods.

but more to the point .. did all cd copies of the album come with doubled up inner sleeves as a spin off from the album name .. or is that just me being a little too nerdy ?

mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

It's you, but we love you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link

WILD. My copy had two cd sleeves, too, but I've always assumed it was a manufacturing error. Never thought it might have been intentional, based on the album title. Interesting.

scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link

ah ha !!

its not just me .. (have images of ilmers dashing off to archives to check .. )

but ta for the love anyways ned .. backatcha gorgeous.


mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link

mine did too.

and I can walk out into the world, singing with my people (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link


aint ILM the best when something like this is 'exposed'. fantastic.

13 years after the albums release we all finally get the bands 'joke'.

mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't recall there being two sleeves in my version at all! I conclude therefore you are all freaks. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link

My copy doesn't have two sleeves. I feel left out...

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 16:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Now that u mention it I think mine did too! I remember getting the cover signed by the band and not feeling bad about "ruining" the artwork (i'm anal that way) because of that!

Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

BTW Mark E - the first three EPs were collected on an album called Pubic Fruit, along with the "extended extended extended" version of Fait Accompli!


(I also have not yet gotten around to getting Doppelganger, cos I've got both the above and - rather later - the Radio Sessions comp. It's quite nice knowing that at sometime in the future I've still got "new" early Curve to listen to...)

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 03:26 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah i saw that re PF .. was that actually released uk-side ? i dont think i have ever seen that around ..

(but anything curve stamped will be on my bins-radar from hereon thats for sure ..)

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I bought Pubic Fruit in HMV about 11 years ago... but it was an import. I don't think it ever got a proper issue.

The similar Smile compilation by Ride was import only for a couple of years but Creation eventually released that in the UK, shame Anxious records couldn't do the same.

Was Gala by Lush released in the UK? I bought that 2nd hand but I think that's a US import as well.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Nah, I think Anxious did put it out a year or two after the US issue - probly just got under-ordered because everyone had sold the import already.

kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 25 August 2005 05:35 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
The colour hurts.

The Sound of Walls (Bimble...), Sunday, 26 March 2006 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

HORROR HEAD

Bimble, Monday, 30 July 2007 05:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Re-listening to those early EPs, one of the big factors that made them interesting is that "viscous" bass sound they used for instance on 'Coulour Hurts' or 'Fait Accompli'

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 14:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I bought one of their albums once and couldn't stand it even though they supposedly sounded like stuff I did like.

Richard Wood Johnson, Thursday, 9 August 2007 03:43 (sixteen years ago) link

You know, it's been a long time since I heard Gift -- fantastic album.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

They just weren't very good. It's really quite sinful to suggest otherwise.

PhilK, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 23:16 (sixteen years ago) link

They just weren't very good. It's really quite sinful to suggest otherwise.

And you're just knee-jerk hating jackass. Cosmic balance is restored.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 00:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Missed this a few weeks ago, but I'm enjoying the continually mounting ILM evidence that Bimble and I are actually the same person:

TS: Curve's "Horror Head" vs. Garbage's entire discography

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 00:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Did Scylla (Toni Halliday's band between Curve breaking up and getting back together again) ever release anything apart from 1 song on the Showgirls soundtrack? I saw them live in '95 and they were quite good.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 08:19 (sixteen years ago) link

"And you're just knee-jerk hating jackass. Cosmic balance is restored."

Why would I hate knee-jerks?

PhilK, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:43 (sixteen years ago) link

in addition to being not very good they also screwed up a potentially fine jamc album with their pedal hopping overproduced agenda setting ways

cw, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Huh?

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link

honey's dead.

cw, Thursday, 23 August 2007 08:34 (sixteen years ago) link

What, because the drummer played on it??

baaderonixx, Thursday, 23 August 2007 08:40 (sixteen years ago) link

...with trademark overly fussy curve drumming. and the producer produced it. with a wall of nasty curve fx gloss.so, yes.

cw, Thursday, 23 August 2007 08:51 (sixteen years ago) link

well Alan Moulder produced half of the records that came out around that time, so I wouldn't define him as the Curve producer, but anyway... Still my fave JAMC album with 'Psychocandy'

baaderonixx, Thursday, 23 August 2007 09:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah it seems a little unfair to blame Curve just for having the same producer as them!

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 23 August 2007 09:14 (sixteen years ago) link

honey's dead sounds specifically modeled on curve to me, it has the same studio tricks, the same bombast, the same drumming, the same fussiness. i initially totally loved hd and also the ten little boys ep but found they both palled pretty quickly. robin guthrie made a similiar mess of felt's ignite the seven canons. assuming bands with vaguelly aligned aethetics would benefit from the same production job.

cw, Thursday, 23 August 2007 09:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Next you're going to be claiming that MBV "sound like Curve" on account of production links.

It's a strange and revisionist attitude to take.

Oh wait, it's reverse sexism, isn't it, claiming that Curve wrote all the songs of every band Moulder worked with because Halliday and Moulder were an item at the time? ;-)

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 23 August 2007 12:48 (sixteen years ago) link

CW can't admit that at the time JAMC were a bunch of lazy sods who were too out of it to get it together for an album. I saw them at Lollapalooza in '92 and again in '93 and both times they stunk in a completely non-interesting way. It didn't help that Spiritualized and Curve were opening up for them too.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 23 August 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

classic

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Thursday, 23 August 2007 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Toni Halliday's appearance on Leftfields "Original" = Classic!

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:34 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Toni has two new tracks up:
http://www.myspace.com/chatelainemusic

Mostly piano-driven, but with a familiar Big Drum Machine sound. Described as "Ramped up Enya"

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 09:00 (sixteen years ago) link

so, remember this from a while back :

"but more to the point .. did all cd copies of the album come with doubled up inner sleeves as a spin off from the album name .. or is that just me being a little too nerdy ?

― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, August 23, 2005 1:53 PM (eighteen years ago)
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well, a twitter account posted this weekend re the album, so i asked the question re the doubling up.

and look what happened :


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liked your reply
question : was i only the person who bought this on cd to find the inner booklet doubled up ?
i assumed it was a play on the album name ..

!!!

mark e, Saturday, 9 March 2024 19:16 (one month ago) link


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