Queen: Classic Or Dud

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but, Alex. I'd argue that Freddie's extremeness (which may well have been inspired by cock frenzy - who am I to say?), is a major reason that the band rocked!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 29 March 2003 20:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

cock frenzy

Hahahahahahaaha


Could very well be, Anthony.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 March 2003 20:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

i bought "a kind of magic" the other week. people who say 80s queen sucked are mistaken. that album is full of great songs. one vision, who wants to live forever, princes of the universe, pain is so close to pleasure, a kind of magic, friends will be friends. wow. when freddie died, me and my mum were really upset. and my mum HATES homos. their first greatest hits album is also very great.

di smith (lucylurex), Sunday, 30 March 2003 04:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

CLASSIC - when I was four I used to stare at my mother's copy of News of the World. Veeeeeeerrrryy disappointed to see Miccio's disbelief in the greatness of Bicycle Race/Fat Bottomed Girls.

James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 30 March 2003 05:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Pretty much the worst group of all time.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Sunday, 30 March 2003 06:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

v annoying.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 30 March 2003 09:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Tie Your Mother Down" = classik!

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 30 March 2003 10:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

andrew L OTM. d.

don't wish to dignify them further.

kieron, Sunday, 30 March 2003 18:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

QUEEN ROXX U R ALL ... um.

Wintermute (Wintermute), Sunday, 30 March 2003 19:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

...extreme faggots?

schne;;schne;;, Monday, 31 March 2003 13:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh no! COCK FRENZY Oh no!

Arthur (Arthur), Monday, 31 March 2003 13:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

three weeks pass...
a band of rare magnificence. bombastic and pompous, willing to delve into the absurd wihtout irony.
whenever i go home for christmas dinner, we always listen to queen. we can't agree on anything else, so every year it's greatest hits.

matthew james (matthew james), Thursday, 24 April 2003 21:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

The fact that this thread bore the phrase "Meat Loaf was so better than Queen!" made it worth my time to reread. God, the good old contrarian days when me and Otis hated everything.

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 April 2003 22:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

So, you've come to your senses?

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 24 April 2003 22:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, no, I still think Queen are ridiculous in a so-ridiculous-it's-good type of way, so I guess I need to be slathered with bad milk.

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 24 April 2003 22:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

They seem pretty classic going by the hits and decade-old memories of Night At the Opera. Meat Loaf was awesome too.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 24 April 2003 23:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bombast is a positive thing, mainly. And Queen does bombast particularly well. Classic, without any doubt at all.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 24 April 2003 23:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

One of the things about "'39" I always wondered: when I first listened to it, and wasn't paying attention to the lyrics too much, I assumed it was a song about WWII, one of those "letter from the front lines" kind of songs. Anybody else have that experience?

Also, the second "In the year of '39" is a nice, subtle touch...I had always assumed it meant the same year from the perspective of the travellers, but actually I think it means 100 years later from the perspective of the people on the planet (hence the "'" before 39)...

Joe (Joe), Friday, 25 April 2003 00:45 (twenty years ago) link

My brother recently managed to persuade me after we'd been out drinking that Brian May was some sort of guitar genius. By singing several of his best guitar lines while we were walking down the road. He does have a hugely individual guitar voice, and he'd probably get more recognition for it if he didn't have such crap hair (Brian May, not my brother).

James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 25 April 2003 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

six months pass...
Well, no, I still think Queen are ridiculous in a so-ridiculous-it's-good type of way, so I guess I need to be slathered with bad milk.

so, queen is to music what scarface is to film?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 3 November 2003 11:22 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
I revive to note that Kelly Freas, creator of that utterly great News of the World cover, has passed on.

http://www.dailyvault.com/queen_news.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, I was having a conversation with a Queen fan last Friday and well he wasnt a moron but he never once spoke about their music. He just went on a bout the fact that they had the biggest concert ever. '250,000 in Rio de Janeiro!!'....Yeah, big deal...
-- Michael Bourke (carrotbourk...), March 14th, 2001.

Doesn't Paul mcartney hold the record for a Concert ?
this was also in Rio

freddo, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 05:13 (nineteen years ago) link

The opening guitar riff in "Ogre Battle" is great. I wore out a tape of Queen II listening to that opening part over and over.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 05:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Wasn't Queen the model for Spinal Tap?

There's a hell of a lot of Status Quo in there too. Especially the earlier years.

everything, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 06:48 (nineteen years ago) link

so, so, so very Classic, as far as the singles go.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 09:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Queen are so fucking great that it boggles the mind how someone could possibly not be moved by their brilliance.

Actually, supposedly it's the fabled "Troggs tape" (capturing an especially dimwitted argument between band members in the studio) that was the real inspiration for Spinal Tap. Visually, though, it's all Saxon and Quo (with a dash of Motorhead in the form of Derek "Luke Warm Water" Smalls).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 13:25 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
i cannot decide if "body language" is the best or worst thing i have ever heard. you have ALL GOT to see the video for it, you will laugh and pee and laugh and pee.

di, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 07:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Get down make love
Get down make love
Get down make love
Get down make love
You take my body
I give you heat
You say you're hungry
I give you meat
I suck your mind
You blow my head
Make love
Inside your bed - everybody
Get down make love
Get down make love
Get down make love
Get down make love

Ev'rytime I get hot
You wanna cool down
Ev'rytime I get high
You say you wanna come down
You say it's enough
In fact it's too much
Ev'rytime I get a
Get down get down get down
Make love

(Get down) I can squeeze - (make love) you can shake me
(Get down) I can feel - (make love) you can break me
(Get down) Come on so heavy (make love)
(Get down) When you take me (make love)
You make love you make love you make love you make
love
You can make ev'rybody get down make love
Get down make love

Ev'rytime I get high
You wanna come down
Ev'rytime I get hot
You say you wanna cool down
You say it's enough
In fact it's too much
Ev'rytime I wanna get down get down get down

Get down make love
Get down make love
Get down make love
Get down make love

Ev'rytime I get hot
You wanna cool down
Ev'rytime I get high
You say you wanna come down
You say it's enough
In fact it's too much
Ev'rytime I wanna
Get down get down
Get down make love

di, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 07:27 (eighteen years ago) link

sheer heart attack is a fucking kickass album. i love it when roger squeals. news of the world is pretty good to, if you skip the first two songs. day at the races is saved only by "good old fashioned lover boy", really. and the game! the game!

di, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 07:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic from their debut through to A Day At The Races, with Side 2 of Queen II a particular high point. Jumped the shark with the first two tracks on News Of The World. Some decent moments after that of course - but something got lost at that point, as their exquisitely perfectionist rococo artistry thing became dumbed down for the first time.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 09:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Being a perverse bastard, I thought Hot Space was far and away the best Queen album, being the least typical.

I have things to say about Queen in tandem with the Sweet, coming up in the rolling 1974 blogpost circa November 2010...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 09:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I would say they did continue delivering great albums also after that, even though 1973-76 remains their artistic heyday.

Had a dark period from "New Of The World" through to "Hot Space" though, where none of their output was quite up with their best. However, "The Works" was a great return to form, and they also went on to create other great albums such as "A Kind Of Magic" and "Innuendo" before Freddie died.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 10:42 (eighteen years ago) link

That was a very dark period for Queen. We Will Rock You, We Are The Champions, Don't Stop Me Now, Crazy Little Thing Called Love, Another One Bites The Dust, Under Pressure...all those below par flops...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 10:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmm. Forgot about "Jazz" actually being a great album. However, those other songs you mention don't sound like typically Queen. They lack the bombast, the prog influence and the harmonies, the three crucial elements that have always been the main reason why Queen were great.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 10:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Innuendo is a wicked album.

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 11:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't gather that they did anything else at all like "Bijou", "Inneundo" or "I'm Going Slightly Mad"... something of a new gravitas enters their sound with such as these.

Tom May (Tom May), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link

They certainly never used synths as darkly as on this late album. The reflective "Bijou" sounds almost like Elton John's "Song for Guy", I'd say...

Tom May (Tom May), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link

a kind of magic is choice. freddy's falsetto on "pain is so close to pleasure" is perfect, and "one year of love" is very sweet. but, i think, it cannot be fully appreciated without seeing the highlander dvd - you gotta see the video for "princes of the universe" tagged on at the end, you can almost smell christopher lambert's mansweat.

di, Wednesday, 27 April 2005 06:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic. All the motherfucking way. Even the Highlander garbage is classic!

Star Hustler, Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Nobody has yet pointed out that "Long Away" from Day at the Races is one of the great straight power-pop tunes of our time or any other.

southern lights, Wednesday, 27 April 2005 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Even the Highlander garbage is classic!

"GIMME THE PRIZE!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 23:19 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

i love queen so much. was listening to the newish greatest hits, the longer one cuz it was at the wal-mart in my hometown for $5...tracklist is kind of weird, cuz it loses "keep yourself alive" off the old one and now includes "body language" (yuk).

funny i was thinking that geir must love the fuck out of queen...they are so harmonically complex and melodic they make the beatles sound like david banner taking a dump on pissed jeans. also, they probably more than any other band make use of pre-rock and tin pan alley style stuff, broadway show tunes and all...seems like geir rock 2 da extreme.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 26 November 2007 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

David Bowie, among others, beat 'em to the Tin Pan Alley/British vaudeville love.

A special on Freddy Mercury on the gay channel makes it seem like it was all his doing, although I suspect this was not really so.

Gorge, Monday, 26 November 2007 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Good lord, did some of the posters upthread/6 years ago seem like miserable people…

At times, I think I love Queen more than I love any musical entity ever…

the gay channel? y'mean Logo?

Veronica Moser, Monday, 26 November 2007 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link

That's it.

Gorge, Monday, 26 November 2007 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link

>>they later symbolised all the most contemptibly macho elements of 80s >>corporate / stadium rock

This is so stupidly mean-spirited it's almost amusing. Yeah, as a campy gay guy Freddy sure was one hell of a macho dude in the Eighties. Ronnie van Zant and Ted Nugent, stand aside for Fred!

I'd think a lot can't get over the ubiquitous football cheerization of "We Will Rock You" -- which is not exactly Queen's fault.

Gorge, Monday, 26 November 2007 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm so glad to see all the Highlander love here. As ridiculously melodramatic as it is, "Who Wants to Live Forever" totally jerks a tear from me every time.

Queen ruled in the 70s. But they're still nowhere as consistent as Judas Priest.

I think it's important to note that the two greatest male rock voices ever are from dudes that took it up the ass.

Nate Carson, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

anybody who says "dud" admits to being attracted to Dabney Coleman.

Definite classic. and not for their singles. not saying they're bad, but they don't represent their best work.

"Night at the Opera" and "Queen II" are their best works. Pompous yes. Fun? Hell yes.

They started going downhill around Jazz--News of the World is the best of their more "2 minute pop song" era.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Hear, Hear! Altho' I wouldn't assume that either were/are bottoms…Hot Space obviously is where Fred made the kind of music played in the joints he frequented…it's as sleazy as any Patrick Hernandez song evah…

just about every record—barring the Miracle, the only album I don't much like— has astoundingly great hidden gems. You wanna talk "tear to the eye?" Try "Made in Heaven," Fred's "I'm going down swinging" tune: May's clarion harmonized guitar parts are agonizing, and it's much much better than "The Show Must Go On."

Veronica Moser, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:58 (sixteen years ago) link

well I was trying to say News of the World was better than Jazz but I effed it up with the "--". :) Jazz had some great songs too, but a bit of filler.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 00:06 (sixteen years ago) link

"Drowse" might be Roger Taylor's best song, more considered than his earlier contributions.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 26 June 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link


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