TS: Lone Justice or Cruzados or Drivin' & Cryin' or Green On Red or Del Fuegos or Jason & The Scorchers or Long Ryders or Bodeans?

I remember seeing the Long Ryders cover "Public Image," and the singer almost broke his head doing a stage-dive on a sparse audience.

Both the "Del" bands were good live.

the replacements kinda sorta fit in the scene, too. they certainly had some common ground. they covered x, rem and tom petty on "the shit hits the fans," as well as the carter family (a song they probably learned from alex chilton). they toured with steve earle. and they wrote a handful of fine straight-up country tunes themselves.

my two favorite albums that were totally of the scene were the knitters album and the danny and dusty album (a one-off all-star band featuring guys from the long ryders, green on red and the dream syndicate). everyone else had lots of great songs but almost no great albums.

oh, and i'd count dwight yoakam's first album, too, if he counts, though maybe the fact that he was clearly headed for nashville itself (instead of just dreaming of the nashville of the mind, like everybody else) disqualifies him.

i could be completely wrong about this, but somewhere in the back of my mind i got it that dan stuart was gay himself. which would make his comments about stipe come across completely opposite from how they're being interpreted here. he's not criticizing him for being gay. he's criticizing him for being in the closet. it may be a pointless and unnecessary thing to say, but i'm not so sure it's evil.

calling howe gelb a "rich jew boy" is offensive. and if you don't think half the non-jews in rock (and probably a third of the jews) haven't said something exactly like this to someone somewhere while drunk in some bar at some point in their lives, well, you're probably wrong.

well the 1st big single was written (co-written?) by Tom Petty and had that Benmont Tench organ sound so it had a lot of reasons to stick out.

my response was a tad self-righteous, admittedly, I've used bigoted terminology before when I WASN'T drunk but Stuart said this shit in an interview and that's different whether he was stoned, drunk, withdrawing or whatever. And while every human being is prejudiced, I find it hard to believe that such a high per centage of musicians would castigate their peers in this way. I mean, when one jew calls another "jew boy" it's sorta like "nigga" you know what I'm saying? Stuart just sounds like a bitter fuck.
And this idea that Michael Stipe disguised his sexuality to sell more records strikes me as absurd. The thousands of people who bought REM albums in the 80s -- and probably most of the millions who did in the early 90s -- weren't viewing him as a sex symbol. I mean, the guy's never been exactly MACHO. I don't think his coming out would've been a big shock to the majority of fans. Now George Michael, that was another story...

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Nevermind the asshole comments, this is pretty fucken lame as well.

Jason and the Scorchers rule

It's funny it actually took me a long time to figure this out because I was in high school in Nashville during their heyday, and they were all over the college radio station I listened to and played at local clubs constantly.

Anybody here ever hear Web Wilder? Cause he's definitely in this group though he didn't even achieve the bit of recognition the bands in the title of this thread got.

i used to own a treat her right album that wasn't horrible. but they came a little later then the rest of these guys. (i think.)

I think they had a lot of female fans who thought they were hott in the '80s, actually.

Heheh, I totally recall that on the D&D album.

Ditto above... A sizable minority of REM's early (female and gay male) fans most definitely considered Stipe a sex symbol in the arty downcast boy-poet vein. (I saw em in '83 at Queens College)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_wRJVTVx3Bc

ten bucks sez i start buying old del fuegos and long ryders albums when i see them cheap at the store from now on. it had to happen.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mbquA796WJQ

i used to associate it with that stuff for some reason. i guess it's just college rock.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7itLeZg85Ac

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XysaT44Ez5U

anyone hear about that documentary on dexter that the people who did the athens movie are putting out? i guess it's kinda sad or something.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=82iQofVyRY8&mode=related&search=

of all those people in that list, I basically say none of them--lone justice always seemed sort of ok, and the rest all have a few good songs. but "long ryders" is a lame-ass name, plus isn't that sid griffin? interesting time for gram parsons worship back then, in its early stages. the very very first jason and (the nashville) scorchers records were all right, just as i probably can only listen to the very first, still somewhat evocative mysterioso lo-fi r.e.m ep. to me they were kind of unfocussed, thrashing, half-way good mix of, wow, "radical" idea!, "punk" and "country." a good time for gram parsons worship. i just never thought they were really all that good. if the new york dolls (saw this depressing doc last night about arthur kane's last daze) made the world safe for the new york dolls, the scorchers opened the door to stuff like br-549 15 years later.

as somebody, probably chuck, said above, the blasters were a lot better, and ditto the mekons on their best stuff. los lobos. old 97's did the jangle and the distance just fine on one or two albums. the gun club, as skott says above, i also liked ok, they were more like from the swamp and a lot of the people in the TS are drugstore cowboys--a good era for gram parsons and byrds worship, i love them myself, but these days i think maybe critics might be giving more props to gene clark, jackie deshannon, even lee hazlewood, and dillard and clark and for god's sake, when you're talking about country-rock/rock don't forget skip spence, as originators of post-byrds/parsons/punk/roots/americana thing that people used to think maybe was all gram? so that's an interesting list of bands to start the thread.

"RADAR GUN"!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpqTcGbn9r4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLMJl-ry314