NME's 'C86 Compilation'.... C&D, S&D, Say Something Interesting About, etc etc etc...

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Custos, that Balloon Farm single came out in 1967. It should have been in the C67 folder.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Jamie Wednesday - I Think I'll Throw a Party for Myself.
Yick. No wonder nobody shows up for your shindigs, you John Wesley Harding wannabe.

Jamie Wednesday were a previous incarnation Carter USM weren't they?

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 20:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the Balloon Farm were ok - from coventry - and definitely 80s.

"All we had" was the Ammonites song i remembered as ok.

I liked what I heard of 9 Steps to Ugly. (And the Sainsburys were on a similar tape I once had - they were good)

Most of the rest mentioned in Custos' post a bit rubbish. (But NOT baby lemonade!)

"Doing it for the kids" is way more floppy fringed and whiney than C86. When you think of C86 you must never forget it housed bands as brilliant as A Witness and Big Flame.

Oh and the Jactars were pretty good of all those scouse bands upthread. Hellfire sermons were the best liverpool band of all though (well, second best behind HMHB)

gerardo francisco, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 21:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I remember Jamie Wednesday but didnt know there was a Carter link. I think they were the worst of the bands of the otherwise pretty spiffy Pink label (Wolfhounds, McCarthy, June Brides and early That Petrol Emotion). There was a Pink compilation out at the time that had way more of an effect on me than C86. But then again, not nearly as much of an effect as Wailing Ultimate had on me around that time or In Love With These Times shortly after.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 21:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Okay, now I'm really confused. Their was an 80's band named Balloon Farm that named themselves after the 60's band Balloon Farm who did a cover of the 60's Balloon Farm's biggest hit? Was their version better than Brownsville Station's cover of "A Question Of Temperature"? Were they a tribute band?

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 21:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

dont know that partic tune - but the Balloon Farm (80s) were no trib band, they were immensely weedy and to 15-year old me most likeable - they later became the Pristines - maybe the copyright police or their dads caught up with them - I dont think they released any records until they changed their name. But they weren't as good afterwards.

gerardo francisco, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 21:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Jamie Wednesday were a previous incarnation Carter USM weren't they?

yeah, Carter formed when the other three blokes quit but they still had a gig booked; Jim and Les did the show with a drum machine and thought "well this was easy and we don't have to split the money so much" sorta thing. "let's name this one after you instead of me."

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 02:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

What about bIG fLAME? Their tune was fantastic and made me buy a couple of their records, which were equally great. They broke up pretty soon after though.

everything, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 15:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Anyone have this one:


Various Artists - An Hour Of Eloquent Sounds
Pleasantly Surprised 001 / Klark 02
a Speak in Volumes / Sunset Gun Enterprises colaboration 1982

Side 1
Side 2
1. The Birthday Party - The Hairshirt
2. Dante and the Lobster - Murder Followed By
Suicide
3. The French Impressionists - Summertime
4. A Pair Of Blue Eyes - Giovanis Room
5. Eric Random and the Nosebleeds - Bedlam a
Go-Go
6. Ludus - Rosa Luxemburg
7. Primal Scream - Thought
8. Marine Girls - Take A Chance
9. A.P.B. - Love To Learn
10. 22 Beaches - Zoo
11. Essential Bop - Monkey Glands
12. Cocteau Twins - Perhaps Some Other Aeon
13. The Wake - The Drill
14. Sunset Gun - Gotta Have Me Go With You
15. Billy Makenzie Sings Orbidoig - Helicopter
Helicopter


scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 2 October 2004 20:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Well, anything that has the Cocteau Twins and the Birthday Party has my vote. (Unless, of course, this comp is total ass and those two are mere "bait tracks")

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 3 October 2004 02:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
I saw some vinyl promo version of the C86 tape on eBay recently. I'd be interested in hearing it for historical reasons if nothing else. I bought the Rough Trade Indiepop compilation last month and have just started getting into all those 80s UK indie pop bands. When I was in England last month I was able to find a couple of Creation Records compilations at a used vinyl store for 2 pounds each - 'Doing It For The Kids', and 'Its Different For Domeheads'. Both are good - 'Doing It For The Kids' has a really good Felt song on it I can't find anywhere else.

W. Earl Piglet, Friday, 31 December 2004 01:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

b-b-but the felt song on 'doing it for the kids' is "ballad of the band", it's on three different Felt compilations..

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Friday, 31 December 2004 02:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I thought something wasn't quite right there.

Bimble..., Friday, 31 December 2004 02:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

5 according to AllMusic.
Initial searches only led me to the Bad Company song "Ballad Of the Band".
I guess I didn't look hard enough.
Beside the point - its a good song.

W. Earl Piglet, Friday, 31 December 2004 03:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
http://www.ica.org.uk/?lid=12257

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 09:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

£22.50!!!!!!!!!

Diddumsismus (Dada), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 10:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i used to like saint etienne but their connection to c86 (none of which i've heard) has always bewildered me.

and now bob stanley gone done this.

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink

It's the music of Bob Stanley's youth, that's the connection

Diddumsismus (Dada), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

the connections of bob stanley to c86 are widespread and considerable

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:31 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i didn't know what c86 was when i was getting into saint etienne. they seemed au fait with dance music, which i had been led to believe indie kids weren't supposed to like. and even since then, weren't the c86 lot about "shambling"? not sure what shambing entails exactly, but it doesn't sound very etienne-like.

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 12:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I'm trying hard to imagine anyone who is more of an indie kid than Bob Stanley is/was!

Diddumsismus (Dada), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 12:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

http://myspace-961.vo.llnwd.net/01292/16/93/1292173961_m.jpg

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 12:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Ha ha, but, re: St. Etienne and dance music, indie kids do grow up eventually

Diddumsismus (Dada), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 12:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

has CD86 got all the C86 trax on it?

pisces (piscesx), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:40 (eleven years ago) Permalink

no.

e.g. Stump "Buffalo"

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I don't think it has any C86 tracks on it

Diddumsismus (Dada), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

No Miaow! either. But a lot of the others.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:44 (eleven years ago) Permalink

My main problem with the C86 comp is that most of the really really awesome songs that get labeled as "C86" aren't actually on the C86 comp.

Somebody said it up there

Diddumsismus (Dada), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Velocity Girl" is the same start track on both.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink

That's because "Velocity Girl" was (that incarnation of) Primal Scream's best track, nobody else on C86 was represented by their best tracks (they were mostly rubbish tracks that would have ended up stuck on the b-side of a 12")

Diddumsismus (Dada), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Did The Bodines record a better song than "Therese"?!

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink

About half of the first Bodines album is about as good as "Therese".

"nobody else on C86 was represented by their best tracks "

So true. Though Buffalo is Stump's most likable track.

everything (everything), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:39 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The McCarthy track put me off them for far too long.

Venga (Venga), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Gasp! You dare diss the McCarthy track! For shame!

Bassment Jacks (Bimble...), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 19:48 (eleven years ago) Permalink

C'mon man, it's far from their best.

everything (everything), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ex-heavenly peeps have a lock on this stuff:

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1930836,00.html

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 07:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

nicky wire was in heavenly? what did he do, write lyrics for "i fell in love last night"?

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 07:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I'm guessing Enrique means Heavenly records.

Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 07:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink

(er, I might deserve some kind of whoosh for completely missing the irony there. lif so I'm sorry, I'm not really awake.)

Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 07:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

haha

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 07:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i met the something-or-other from heavenly-thee-band. very serious dude.

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

peter?

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:05 (eleven years ago) Permalink

dunno.

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

C86 - Still Doing It For Fun

OK so you steal Bachelor Pad titles for your crappy "celebration" but you try finding their music on CD. Ya bastids!

Dadaismus (Gives You The Big Reassure) (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Anyone going to any of this? I suppose it is as important not to go as it is for the original bands not to have reformed. But it might be quite good.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Oh, I've just seen the price. As you were.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

last.fm is the source of much Heavenly amusement / confusion.
http://www.last.fm/music/Heavenly

cathy was last seen on tv crashing cars with henry rollins. which was funny. juxtaposition.

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Oh, I've just seen the Magic Numbers are playing at it. As you were.

Dadaismus (Gives You The Big Reassure) (Dada), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Says a lot about today's music scene that C86 gets revived whereas C81 does not (or did the, cough, post-punk "revival" cover the latter?).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:31 (eleven years ago) Permalink

yes... it did! i think the post-punk revival was fairly well covered.

benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 08:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I agree, Jesse Garon and (even more) Siddeleys are definitely not in that bad genre. (Though there is a Jesse Garon track somewhere that seems to have some kind of Mark E. Smith pastiche on it?) So yes I will keep going, thanks.

As a friend says, it's good that they put all that stuff together and maybe I can skip past it in future.

I like the idea of C89 but I will need to get to C88 first.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 17:44 (three weeks ago) Permalink


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