Tzadik: Search & Destroy

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Destroy.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link

And in fact, I bought the Mephista CD in a weak moment. I walked back (through a pedestrian-un-friendly area, much of the way) from an unsuccessful trip to Home Depot to buy a female-female adapter for my kitchen faucet. I stopped and at a new Turkish restaurant where the food was too dry for me. Then I went to a good, but somehow depressing, indie-oriented CD store and bought this in a weak moment. I tend to buy the wrong things at moments like that.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 15 June 2004 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you looking to sell it?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I was thinking about reviving this. Haven't been interested in any Tzadik for awhile, but the recent Birthday Series looks pretty appealing. Electric Masada, Locus Solus (Arto Lindsay/John Zorn/Anton Fier), and Zorn/Milford Graves are all tempting.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link

'Patterns of Plants' by Mamoru Fujieda is my favourite.

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Just looked that up- sounds interesting Momus I'll check it out.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you looking to sell it?

Not yet, sundar. It's not difficult to listen to really, it just doesn't excite me much. But since it's not difficult to listen to, I will probably throw it on at least a few more times. I might just keep it around for the sake of having some of that sort of thing on hand.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 16 June 2004 12:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry for missing italics.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 16 June 2004 13:01 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.missingfoundation.com/images/logo001.gif

Missing Italics.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 16 June 2004 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Hemophiliac: 50th Birthday Celebration Volume Six
Mike Patton, Ikue Mori and John Zorn are Hemophiliac, and together they are responsible for some of the wildest improvisational music ever. Performing for Zorn's 50th birthday month and playing to a packed house of screaming enthusiasts and obnoxious groupies, this set shows them at their most focused and most intense. Their first release since the 2001 online-only limited edition, this is new music from the outer reaches of madness.

Typhoon is Coming!!! :O (ex machina), Monday, 2 August 2004 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
i haven't been following this stuff for a couple years, but these discs just crossed my desk:

bar kokhba sextet vol. 2
sanhedrin: masada 1994-1997: unreleased studio recordings
jamie saft trio: astaroth

anyone got anything to say about any of them?

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

ftp://ftp.bunglefever.com

I've Said It Before, Friday, 29 July 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link

The only thing I have from Tzadik is Bailey/Tacuma/Weston's Mirakle and I remember the musicianship being excellent but I can't think of a single note.

When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a moray! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 30 July 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Search: DNA "Live at CBGBs" cd

Destroy: Tzadik and its prices and its founder

ghetty green (eman), Saturday, 30 July 2005 14:18 (eighteen years ago) link

how am i going to go through this stuff, it's like 6 discs!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 30 July 2005 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Hoahio "Peek-ara-boo" is sooo great! I think i'm gonna lap up the whole New Japan series because of it

Baaderonixx and the choco-pop babies (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 13:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Search - The Gainsbourg covers album

Destroy - MArc Ribot, Yo! I Killed Your God.

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Wha? What's wrong with that Ribot album?

Is the Hoahio a new release? The most recent Tzadik releases I picked up were Ikue Mori's Myrninerest (one long computer music composition - quite impressive) and Merzbow's Sphere (interesting - I need to listen some more).

Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Nah the Hoahio is from 2003, I was just late to the party... How's their first album?

My life with Baaderonixx and the Choco-pops babies (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
This looks good: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=19234

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 30 September 2005 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
I am so happy this is being reissued. I think it's a good moment for it too. (On the other hand, I barely remember what it sounds like. Maybe I will be disappointed.) I enjoyed the live performance by this group that I saw in 1987.

Henry Kaiser / Charles K. Noyes / Sang Won Park: Invite the Spirit 2006 [#7617]

One of the most evocative and successful meetings of East and West reunites to weave their magic spell via kayagum, electric guitar and percussion. Invite the Spirit was a sensation when it was first released in 1983 and now over twenty years later they are sounding better than ever. Joined by two scintillating Korean P’ansori vocalists on several tracks this is a whole new take on the Korean shamanistic tradition. Over seventy minutes of timeless, ecstatic, magical music unlike anything you’ve ever heard.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 21 September 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Except maybe it's not clear that it's just a reissue. Why the 2006 added to the title, if it's just a reissue? I will give it a chance either way.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 21 September 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Destroy: Zorn's saxophone

señor citizen (eman), Thursday, 21 September 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

zeena parkins' new CD necklace is my favorite zeena on tzadik, why'd she wait till now to write string quartets

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 21 September 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I got that too, and also like it -- though my fave tzadik is Ruins Symphonica, which is so not surprising that by posting I am opening a little black hole right....here

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 21 September 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

*Genius Grant*

There really is a Jewish conspiracy!

(joke)

But Zorn's sax playing really does suck.

Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Thursday, 21 September 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Zorn is a *great* sax player and can run circles around any of the nu-jazz morons out there. Get one Masada record.

Lynco (lync0), Thursday, 21 September 2006 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course he's better than any nu-jazzer. But I still find his tone to be too strident. But that's just me, I guess.

Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Thursday, 21 September 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think he won the award primarily for his sax playing anyway. I don't like his sax playing either, but what do I know being a "what's with the constant cymbal tapping" douche bag.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 21 September 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The cymbal tapping, yes. I forgot about that.

I also hate the pompous uniform design of Tzadik releases. Who's the *genius* that thinks it's "avant-garde" to place light-coloured font over metallic paper on the 'New Japan' series, thus rendering the entire thing completely unreadable?

Oh, and 'New Japan' is a silly, lazy moniker as well.

Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Thursday, 21 September 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the pompous uniformity of Tzadik design. I still think the CDs look really sharp. As for his series, I just hope he has a little bit of a sense of humor about some of the names he assigns them.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 21 September 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i admit i haven't given masada a listen. got tired of hearing his patented squawk on every release. despite all that, i still think painkiller was pretty great live.

señor citizen (eman), Friday, 22 September 2006 02:39 (seventeen years ago) link

He's a good player who falls into shtick and overused licks way too often. Electric Masada allows him to really run some of those licks into the ground. Search: the Sonny Clark Memorial Quartet album, the Masada studio albums, and the Classic Guide to Strategy records.

The Bearnaise-Stain Bears (Rock Hardy), Friday, 22 September 2006 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/BT/colbertzorn.mpg

Ivan G (Ivan), Friday, 22 September 2006 05:17 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/Large/67/868867.jpg

This is excellent. Sometimes it's jazz in a fairly straight ahead way, sometimes it's more modern classical (usually with a downton NYC sort of feel), with melodies and harmonies that often seem like they would work in pop. I hear things that remind me of Steve Reich, Joan LaBarbara (although mostly her vocal technique is pretty standard), maybe Bjork? Even Shiina Ringo, though I don't want to say it, because I'm sure any resemblance there is strictly coincidental. There's also someone else (I think) doing Persian classical vocals in a couple places. I certainly find it more interesting than most of Zorn's own Jewish tinge recordings. The biggest drawback (for me) might turn out to be that it tends to be a very theatrical sort of recording, which I find tends to wear out more quickly for me. The lyrics are all from the Songs of Songs (sung in the Hebrew) and I think the theatrical tone of the music comess out of the way the original text is written as a dialogue. But it's very good and after a few listens, I'm still feeling I need to listen several times to get a better handle on it, which isn't to say it's inaccessible, just fairly rich.

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 4 November 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

(Definitely one of my favorite releases this year.)

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 4 November 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

People who like strong adventurous female vocalists who also wrote some/all of their own material should be all over this CD.

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 4 November 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, it looks like "Persian trope" is a specifically Jewish Persian style of singing. I'm not sure it makes sense for me to talk about "Persian classical" vocals then, but it is definitely recognizably Persian. Anyway, it's just a minor part of the whole recording.

R_S (RSLaRue), Saturday, 4 November 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

search: jacques coursil, minimal brass. fucking astounding.

not destroy so much as, well, just kinda uneven: the two milford graves solo records. both have their moments, particularly "transcendence" on grand unification. but too much of the material sounds unfocused, nowhere near the impact of his esp-disk with sunny morgan.

Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Saturday, 4 November 2006 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...
Okay, as likely as not this is just a reflection of all the music I don't listen to or don't even know about, but sometimes it seems like Tzadik is especially remarkable in its efforts to keep alive chamber music for strings along European classical lines, but bringing it into the present. Keeping it alive by finding an audience for it?

This Ned Rothenberg CD, Inner Diaspora is getting better with each listen, I think. I feel a sense of continuity between this and, oh, stuff like Steve Reich, but a lot of other downtown NYC music, that I was listening to a lot a long time ago.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 7 May 2007 01:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Classical + contemporary + a little bit new AND accessible seems like no small feat, and I keep hearing new Tzadik releases which can be described that way. (Granted, Zorn still releases a lot of more challenging work, not any different from hardcore academic modern classical music.)

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 7 May 2007 01:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Zorn, purveyor of middle-brow light classical music of the likes of me?

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 7 May 2007 01:23 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...

So are any of these Radical Jewish Culture series discs I keep seeing any good?

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 04:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes. Let me just add that I love Tzadik. Whenever I don't have anything to listen to I look up what's at Tzadik. The tribute to Marc Bolan is one of the best tribute albums I've ever heard.

filthy dylan, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 07:00 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Erik Friedlander's installment of the Book of Angels is on my to-buy list.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 12 November 2007 02:08 (sixteen years ago) link

the New Klezmer Trio discs are great...

m0stlyClean, Monday, 12 November 2007 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link

this thread is too large to read all, but...

- George Lewis- Voyager
- Barbez- Force of Light (saw them last week and was blown away)
- any of the Painkiller records
- Yosunao Tone- Songs for Wounded CD
- any of the Zeena Parkins records

and there are so many more good ones that i can't think of off the top of my head.

the table is the table, Monday, 12 November 2007 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Otomo Yoshihide New Jazz Ensemble Dreams is a good one - kind of noir-lounge jazz with plaintive vocals by Japanese singers Phew and Togawa Jun - with some interesting touches, like the sine waves provided by Sachiko M - covering tunes by Asa-Chang & Junray and Jim O'Rourke.

o. nate, Monday, 12 November 2007 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link

hmm, i'll have to check out that one. i had an intense love affair with asa-chang & jun-ray a few years ago.

the table is the table, Monday, 12 November 2007 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

So has anyone heard the new Book of Angels? Mycale? It looks super amazing, it has Ayelet Rose Gottlieb and Basya Schecter (ie: Pharoah's Daughter) singing on it. I don't see any instruments on the personal list, so it might all be vocal, which is awesome. Too bad no Jewlia Eisenberg, tho :(

Mordy, Monday, 25 January 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Related, I wonder when/if they are going to (home) release the Zorn docs that the actor Mathieu Amalric has been making:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5ybQOI5M3g

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 20:28 (three months ago) link


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