Amon Düül II--Classic or Dud?

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that is ridiculous.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link

probably a mistake since the seller is DE-based

Paul (scifisoul), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

That's the one early AD II LP I don't have.

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 03:53 (nineteen years ago) link

i can send it to you

Professor Challenger (ex machina), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link

OK but I ain't payin' $681.

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 04:06 (nineteen years ago) link

i meant online

Professor Challenger (ex machina), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 04:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Sure, send it to me, I got DSL. Just take the "y" out of the address. Not sure why I never got that one, it has "Archangel's Thunderbird" on it right?

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 05:01 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
So Phallus Dei, Yeti and Dance of the Lemmings were remastered and reissued a couple weeks ago. I had forgetten that I had never gotten Lemmings. AMG claimed its their best, so I wasn't sure why, until I listened to some of the MP3s I have -- it seems quite a bit less focused and powerful than Yeti. I probably didn't get it because of Julian Cope's Krautrocksampler book, where he dismisses Lemmings as "a pile of pedestrian shit." Hmmm. Then again, this is coming from the guy who likes the tedious Cosmic Jokers, and who also dismisses Cluster '71 and Can's gorgeous Future Days and Soon After Babaluma.

Cope's book is entertaining yet frustrating. I really wish he made his top 50 list in order of preference rather than alphabetical. Occasionally he would make a solid statement, like, "this is my favorite Can album" (Ege Bamyasi). I made a top 13 of Cope's picks, gauging them by the amount of hyperbole he spewed.

1 Ash Ra Tempel
2 La Dusseldorf
3 Neu! 75
4 Can - Ege Bamyasi
5 Ash Ra Tempel - Schwingungen
6 Neu!
7 Amon Duul II - Yeti
8 Popol Vuh - In den Garten Pharoas
9 Harmonia - Deluxe
10 Tangerine Dream - Zeit
11 Cluster - Zuckerzeit
12 Can - Tago Mago
13 Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri

I need to check to see if there have been any exceptional remasters of any of the above in addition to Amon Duul II. Anyone know?

I don't know that anyone will answer, as I don't know that anyone will find this with both the Search and New Answers functions broken. I found this thread with Google. Sigh.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Saturday, 2 September 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

that reminds, i saw these "new" re-masters in a store and they say "mastered by E-rok", same motherfucker(s) who did the repertoire ones. i'd really like to hear an explanation of why these rerererreereissues are considered necessary

señor citizen (eman), Saturday, 2 September 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Well my copies are from around '94, so anything's probably an improvement.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Saturday, 2 September 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeti is a like a BJ from JC

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 2 September 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Well my copies are from around '94

these albums were already re-mastered in '02. read the thread linked above

señor citizen (eman), Saturday, 2 September 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha latebloomer

Roque Strew (RoqueStrew), Sunday, 3 September 2006 08:48 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

"Vive la Trance" is so f'in great. I don't see many folks vouching hard for anything thereafter, but I just gotta check more stuff out... if the SONGZ stay even 1/2 as good...!

Also, as mentioned above -- the last track on "Wolf City" = 8-)))

morris pavilion, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 05:11 (sixteen years ago) link

My favorite Krauts by far!

I have at least one later than Vive La Trance called Hijack. It's awful.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 06:14 (sixteen years ago) link

See, I may have bought that once and then returned it, I can't remember! Maybe I'll skip to "Made in Germany"; the allmusic write-up on that one makes it sound pretty great...

Something about the funny/serious, clever without being too goofy, great songwriting that's self-confident without taking itself too seriously, thing on those later albums really hits a sweet spot for me... I'd try to name a few other bands that kinda work the same way, but it'd seem flighty, they're all so dissimilar. (I guess Guru Guru does something kinda equivalent for me, without the songwriting part; they're similar enough.)

morris pavilion, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 06:24 (sixteen years ago) link

It's like this certain vibe -- adult musicians at the peak of their playing and songwriting prowess; so great at what they do that they can be totally relaxed, though focused and totally on-point; a little dryly "whimsical," almost underplaying their hand, but also "nailing" it somehow...

morris pavilion, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 06:28 (sixteen years ago) link

it's been a while, but I'm starting to appreciate the post Wolf City stuff.

1978's Only Human doesn't get nearly enough love. It's my favorite AD2 release post-Wolf City.. very different, but still well crafted. Some songs work better than others. "Kirk Morgan" is so ahead of its time as far as the guitar playing and electronic beats.

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 07:54 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

APOCALYPTIC BORE

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 03:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Amon Düül >>>> Amon Düül II

Bill in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Yawn

Tom D., Tuesday, 8 April 2008 12:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Amon Düül >>>> Amon Düül II

APOCALYPTIC BORE

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 14:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I will take this opportunity to once again rep for live in london. yeti and lemmings are great but live in london is loud.

Edward III, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 14:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Did you ever get Made In Germany morris? I like that one more than Hijack but not as much as any of the earlier ones.

nickn, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 23:58 (sixteen years ago) link

"Hijack" is rubbish. "Made In Germany" is actually quite good if you cherrypick the good tracks, it's a guilty pleasue of mine.

Tom D., Wednesday, 9 April 2008 08:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think "Hijack" is entirely rubbish. I love the tape-loop disco of "Da Guadaloop," "Lonely Woman" sets lyrics to the (uncredited) Ornette Coleman melody, and there's another couple quirky pop tunes here and there. Not as good as "Made In Germany" though, which I really do like front to back.

Dan Peterson, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Is that the full double-lp "Germany" or the single version?

Myonga Vön Bontee, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

The one I like front to back? American single LP. I've never heard the double.

Dan Peterson, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

WHY DIDN'T I GET INTO THESE DUDES EARLIER???

i had heard stuff at friend's houses and shit and liked it but only today bought this The UA Years 69-74 comp cuz it was in the CD cutout bin at electric fetus...

so good!

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 19 September 2008 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link

The thread should have been titled Classic or Düüd, though.

I still haven't checked out the original AD, nor acquired Yeti. I did pick up a Krautrock DVD at the Tower closing sale but haven't played it yet (ADII are on it).

nickn, Friday, 19 September 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Only Human!

Craig D., Friday, 19 September 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

After Kraftwerk, the best Krautrock band by far. Yes better than Can!

Nate Carson, Friday, 19 September 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Wau I dunno if I feel ya on that, though they are absolutely fantastic. Top 5 kraut for sure.
I am actually more of an AD I guy. Longer jams. More hippie vibing.

ian, Friday, 19 September 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Not saying they're more important/influential. Just more consistently rewarding.

Nate Carson, Friday, 19 September 2008 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

The wonders of personal preference.

ian, Friday, 19 September 2008 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd put Can ahead of Kraftwerk, and both ahead of ADII.

nickn, Friday, 19 September 2008 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Can is fucking awesome, but you have to admit they are pretty damn awkward more often than not. Tago Mago is not exactly fun to listen to... and I love difficult/extreme music.

But I am definitely talking personal opinion here.

Nate Carson, Friday, 19 September 2008 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link

This is kind of new - http://www.furious.com/perfect/amonduulII.html

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I was listening to Wolf City, Vive La Trance, and Made In Germany last night as my vinyl was being sold off. Wolf City is just so so good. Vive La Trance isn't perfect, but it's highlights.. holy shit. "Mozambique" and "Mimikry" are two of AD2's best songs. I'm not so much on the Made In Germany wagon, although there definitely are moments.

By Pyrogany 10th, they pretty much changed into a prog/pop rock band, but there are always good moments on all these albums all the way to and including Vortex. Only Human is definitely slept on.

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

BTW, this has to be the FULL version of "Mozambique". Huge difference.. the second half of "Mozambique" = :-O

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link

For some reason I've never liked these guys... and I'm a sucker for most any krautrock out there. They are probably the only "important" krautrock band that I just don't get.

ilxor, Thursday, 25 September 2008 02:25 (fifteen years ago) link

whoah that is some major dissing of the Amon Duul records in that Weinzerl interview.

sleeve, Thursday, 25 September 2008 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link

"Very important: we are NOT a Krautrock band."

Oops!

Nate Carson, Thursday, 25 September 2008 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link

"Eye-shaking king" is still one of the heaviest/ more fucked-up/ plainly weird songs ever.
Yeti = the real soundtrack to Jodorowsky's Holy Mountain (unintentionally funny bits included).

Marco Damiani, Thursday, 25 September 2008 08:01 (fifteen years ago) link

"Very important: we are NOT a Krautrock band."

Oops!

Has any 'Krautrock' band ever said, "We're a Krautrock band"?

Tom D is a rattly old puffin, who remembers ILX in the days when... (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 September 2008 08:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Just Faust.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

I put on Carnival in Babylon in hopes of liking it, and I'll admit I liked it more than I did last time I tried it, but it was still eh to me. What do I need to hear instead?

the HOOS from the hilarious internet connection (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I like everything up to and including Wolf City.
― hstencil, domingo 16 de noviembre de 2003 03:39 PM (5 years ago)

i.e. YETI

sleeve, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i <3 yeti...i need to give tanz der lemminge more time...

still, someone go nominate AD2 in Sven's best band ever thread RIGHT NOW!!!

Janitor in the Valley of the Dolls (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:58 (fifteen years ago) link

can't believe they stole some lyrics on uh Hijack

made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 08:06 (one hour ago) link


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