Charlie Rich - Behind Closed Doors

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Sounds like I'd have better luck asking Charlie.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 13 January 2006 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

sublimeness sublimity

Whatever. sub-lime'ness, n. the state or quality of being sublime.
-- Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary, Deluxe Second Edition. (My favorite.)

I have "Memphis & Arkansas Bridge" but on vinyl. Maybe I'll kill some more time and transfer.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 13 January 2006 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i have that dictionary, too! edd, i don't have this Chrlies Rich, so get to ripping, or lawnmowing.

Beta (abeta), Friday, 13 January 2006 02:28 (fourteen years ago) link

make that Charlie

Beta (abeta), Friday, 13 January 2006 02:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Charlie Rich "Memphis and Arkansas Bridge" from Boss Man, Epic 1970
Produced by Billy Sherrill

If you dig, it looks like both Boss Man and Very Special Love Songs are available as a twofer on Edsel (a reissue from '05 that should have been on my list):

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 13 January 2006 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link

thank you so much!!!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 13 January 2006 04:13 (fourteen years ago) link

The Sun and Groove/RCA stuff is hot, too. "Breakup," "Philadelphia Baby," "Who Will the Next Fool Be," "Big Boss Man," "There's Another Place I Can't Go."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 13 January 2006 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Up-thread somebody said there was a Billy Sherrill-produced version of FLGH (not counting the demo). Maybe in the vaults, but it's never been released, near as I can tell.

And if there's one demo of Rich and piano, there's got to be more--that shit needs to be released.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

the Amazing Rhythm Aces do a real respectable version of "Who Will the Next Fool Be" on their first album, which I checked out of the Nashville public library recently and discovered I quite liked.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

That Feel Like Going Home is magnificent, Roy - thank you. I had a version, but this is even better.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 13 January 2006 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

That's all I needed tonight, Roy. Thanks for the upload.

And thanks to Edd for putting the bug in our ear.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 14 January 2006 06:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I signed onto YSI. why, it's so easy...

anyway, went back and listened to those Sherrill/Rich records, and they're certainly a cut above the usual '70s Nashville gloppy shit. Rich's voice almost always makes it all really interesting. Just think what could have happened had Rich gotten on Blue Note or some jazz label; just think about him backed by Duke Ellington...he wouldn't have made as much money but I bet he would have been far less melancholy, and maybe still alive today...

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 14 January 2006 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

...if the Duke would've made him quit smoking cigarettes.

Not so sure Charlie would've benefited from straight jazz/Blue Note kinda treatment, he was a true fusion artist intuitively blending styles, his easy listening tendencies figure as imporantly as his jazz and blues leanings (along w/the realism/sentimentality schism in wife Margaret's lyrics). Though an album of Charlie Sings Standards w/a big band sounds enticing on paper in practice it could turn out like his "legendary" Stax sessions which left me kinda cold. Long story short, I think CR's Billy Sherrill period is better than credited, arguably his peak esp. those initial 3 albums: Big Boss Man, Set Me Free, The Fabulous Charlie Rich.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 14 January 2006 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link

The Billy Sherrill years aren't so bad, but after BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, Sherrill "whitened" up Charlie's sound something terrible. As best as I can tell, that was really Charlie's last great moment before PICTURES & PAINTINGS.

I've never heard SILVER LININGS (a post-'74 gospel album that Guralnick thinks is great), but in general anything Sherrill produced on him from that year onward - BEWARE, BROTHER, BEWARE!!!

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Sunday, 15 January 2006 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

The Feel Like Going Home demo can be bought from iTunes or Amazon. It's on an out-of-print comp called FLGH, The Essential Charlie Rich. No better way to spend 99 cents.

that's not my post, Friday, 8 May 2009 05:24 (eleven years ago) link

Silver Linings is awesome.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 May 2009 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

There's also some great stuff on that older Bear Family comp of his Sun Records recordings. A lot of it is just plain nuts, especially stuff like "Popcorn Polly." It seems like whenever Rich tries to write a straight forward teen hit, he can't help but take it some oddball directions. One of those guys who sound nice and conventional on the surface, but when you peel it back is profoundly weird.

leavethecapital, Saturday, 9 May 2009 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

at the end of the day, it's really all about that slow walkin', fast talkin', good lookin' Mohair Sam...

henry s, Sunday, 10 May 2009 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Nice 'N' Easy, damn, that's a sexy tune.

that's not my post, Monday, 6 July 2009 03:48 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

That CMA clip is on youtube now...Charlie was Fuuuuuuuuuuuucccckkkked Up...the cut to Glen Campbell after it's over is priceless.

The whole show is up as well:

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 04:06 (seven years ago) link

that clip is awesome. but poor dude who had to keep that timpani roll going for 25 seconds.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 04:54 (seven years ago) link

thnaks for posting is all i can type thru tears of laughter

screen scraper (m coleman), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 09:52 (seven years ago) link

kanye rich

screen scraper (m coleman), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 11:16 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

The man is so desperate, he's casual: Music Sounds Better With Two talks about Charlie Rich (and musical isolation) -

agincourtgirl, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:30 (five years ago) link

It Ain't Gonna Be That Way the Complete Smash sessions is pretty essential methinks.
Some of his early 70s stuff had me wondering if he was a conscious influence on Nick Cave, Tindersticks and a few others.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:55 (five years ago) link

The most recent Oxford American music issuue has a great Rich piece:

Okay, there's lil' Zipper again (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 13:50 (five years ago) link

That Oxford American article is fantastic. Mind-blowing to think he didn't start singing until he was 22. Would be on my short list for favorite singers.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 05:56 (five years ago) link

In 1966, when Charlie Rich was at a nadir in his career, Sy moved him to Hi Records, a small-time local studio, and Natalie brought Isaac Hayes in so Charlie could take a shot at one of his songs, “When Something Is Wrong With My Baby.” As Natalie recalls, the backing band was composed of legendary session players from Stax and Hi—the Memphis Horns, Andrew Love and Wayne Jackson, along with Tommy Cogbill on bass and Willie Hall on drums. Hayes sat next to Charlie at the piano and taught him the song before they recorded it in one take. For “Pass on By,” Sy Rosenberg himself blew a meandering trumpet solo in the background.

The Hayes track was never released

Just came across this track on Spotify right before reading this. Pretty sweet.

Visions of Mojo Hannah (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 12:55 (five years ago) link

As I said way up thread, one of the most versatile pop musicians ever. Him and Ray Charles, anyway. Going to hunt down that Oxford American issue today.

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:18 (five years ago) link

I need to see that too

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:20 (five years ago) link

You can read online, I think.

The Jody Valgrind (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:29 (five years ago) link

Yup, that link right above. Maybe Jazzbo just wanted the hard copy of the magazine

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:41 (five years ago) link

Is it in the latest print issue or it in the Music issue from end of last year? I have a physical copy of that but keep misplacing it.

The Jody Valgrind (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:00 (five years ago) link

Dan says its the music issue above, and I have also misplaced mine...

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:27 (five years ago) link

Found it

The Jody Valgrind (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 August 2014 18:51 (five years ago) link

four years pass...

Charlie Rich, country & western singer ...

Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Monday, 3 December 2018 10:18 (one year ago) link

Is the RCA & Groove stuff as good as the Smash recordings? There was a 2cd put out by Ace at the start of the year which was called
Too Many Teardrops: The Complete Groove & RCA Recordings. So I wonder if i need that as much as the Smash stuff.

Stevolende, Monday, 3 December 2018 10:31 (one year ago) link

I don't see a big difference in terms of quality between the two; if you like the Smash stud even half as much as I do then I strongly recommend that new CD (apparently there are a few bits on the new edition that I haven't heard so there may be a few duffers on it but I know most of it and it's gold IMO.)

Tim, Monday, 3 December 2018 11:25 (one year ago) link

Thanks for mentioning Too Many Teardrops! Hadn't heard of it. After a couple of listens, I've found it surprisingly easy to get used to the strings and choirs, although some Disc 2 incidents are still annoying, and maybe scale-tipping on the more dubious material---that's okay though; that's what he and/or the suits get for turdpolishing .like Elvis, Sinatra, Willie etc. he's found that he can effectively apply his signature sound to inferior imitations of his top-shelf line of goods, and so he does, and I admit there are at least partially redeeming moments in most(?) of the worse, though not worst, tracks. Not many of this last category though!
A good number of the rolling piano jazz-blues-rock tracks I always favor, starting right off with "Big Boss Man," soon followed by "River Stay Away From My Door," later a very sassy "Ol' Man River," such as Jerry Lee might approve, then a more respectful vocal on "The Twelth of Never," though that beloved tearjerker now goes thunkin' along. Mercy!
Also a couple of intriguing ballads written by Freddie Hart:"Too Many Teardrops" starts out feeling for a fella who lost his love to the narrator, yet"I did what any man would do"---emphasis on "man" because the cry guy wasn't "strong enough to play the losing hand"--crying and drinking yourself to death doesn't count as a well-played losing hand, so what does? Revenge, mebbe? Doesn't say.
The other Hart-written track, "There Won't Be Any More, " has a terse lilt that somehow reminds me of some British Invasion tracks, like uhhh covers like "Don't Let the Sun Catch You Crying"? But with more attitude.
The Riches-written (lots of originals here) "The Grass Is Always Greener" advises that, "You may think you're rollin' in clover/But you better think it over." Shaddup with that, I must not think bad thoughts!
The Complete Smash Sessions is the one to start with, but this is def worth checking out.

dow, Friday, 14 December 2018 20:22 (one year ago) link

40 tracks, and I like at least---28? Love at least an LP's-worth.

dow, Friday, 14 December 2018 20:23 (one year ago) link

Was just listening to "Behind Closed Doors" today, the first half of this album is glorious, tails off a bit though.

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Friday, 14 December 2018 22:02 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

Silver Linings is awesome.

― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, May 8, 2009 3:22 PM (ten years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just got another vinyl of this, and 10 years ago me OTM.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 25 May 2019 23:07 (one year ago) link

tandoor vittles (unregistered), Monday, 27 May 2019 17:41 (one year ago) link

ILX shall now be split into three warring factions.

pomenitul, Monday, 27 May 2019 17:42 (one year ago) link

Never forget that one time a decade or so ago when the only working thread was for a Canadian Zeppelin clone.

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 May 2019 17:43 (one year ago) link

I don't remember that

tandoor vittles (unregistered), Monday, 27 May 2019 17:47 (one year ago) link

but lol

tandoor vittles (unregistered), Monday, 27 May 2019 17:47 (one year ago) link


pomenitul, Monday, 27 May 2019 17:51 (one year ago) link

In any case found cached version and no evidence therein. Believe we lost seventeen days of history at the time.

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 May 2019 17:53 (one year ago) link

Ugh sorry not abused dog. I think I did I mistaken that for a US commercial.

Heez, Monday, 27 May 2019 21:33 (one year ago) link

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