― Dave Beckhouse (Dave Beckhouse), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 00:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 00:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
You knew it had be said:Taking Sides: Courtney Love VS Phil Spector...FITE!
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 03:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 03:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
Yeah, because, you know
http://chibitaryn.ff7citadel.com/stuff/Nirvana%20-%20Kurt%20Cobain%202.JPG
I mean, mans must have been beating them off with a shitty stick.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 03:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
erm, I hate Courtney (okay, "hate" in the sense that you might say you "love pizza" to paraphrase Daniel Clowes in "Why I Hate Christians"; I certainly don't want her to die or anything, and if I ever actually met her I'd probably be nice to her, so maybe I should stop contributing to these threads because I can see I'm being classed with the people who REALLY hate her, yeah yeah I'd better end this bit now) because she punched Kathleen Hanna, who I have a totally mad pash for. what does this make me?
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 05:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
now I know! (tho "well-respected" is questionable)
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 05:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
i think that part of the courtney-hate is, along with the typical double-standard virgin/whore etc. stuff the fear of a woman who attempts to assert her sexuality in a power relationship.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 06:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 5 February 2003 06:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 07:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 07:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
i hardly think that applies to me. i even like obnoxious women. i wish more women would fart in public and shit like that. i just don't like courtney. she doesn't seem like the kind of person i can trust. it comes down to that.
― di smith (lucylurex), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 09:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
i hardly think that applies to me. i even like obnoxious women. i wish more women would fart in public and shit like that. i just don't like courtney. she doesn't seem like the kind of person i can trust. it comes down to that. so none of this: I expect I wz secretly hoping to be swept aside by a veritable rush of well-respected male feminists cramming a cap on their head to prove that it sure didn't fit them nossir noway for me thanks.
― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 09:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― di smith (lucylurex), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 12:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 13:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 13:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― matt riedl (veal), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 15:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jesse Fox, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 15:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 18:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 18:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
god help me.
― di smith (lucylurex), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 21:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 21:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 22:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 22:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 22:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 22:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
I guess the "joke" about the feminists and the lightbulb is more your speed....
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 22:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Curtis Stephens, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 23:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 23:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 23:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 23:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― di smith (lucylurex), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 23:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
But just for the record, I (rather embarassingly) must hew to the traditional indie-judgment that her first album is really the only one worth listening to. The abrasive shrieking and sloppiness and anger at least packs some visceral punch - "Good Sister/Bad Sister" being the best track on the album. "Live Through This" - eh, "Doll Parts" is okay, but mostly it sounds like sub-par Nirvana. The song-structures, the lyrics, the delivery, everything matches up to the oft-repeated rumors of Kurt-authorship. And released the day after his suicide - ewww, the creepiness factor of the record is very high, it's like she raped his corpse in public or something. I only heard the singles off "Celebrity Skin" and I thought they were appallingly bad... am I forgetting anything? That's about all I've heard. Her music wouldn't be quite so loathsome if it wasn't so hopelessly chained to her shameless, exploitative, completely stupid antics.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 February 2003 00:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 6 February 2003 01:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― daria g, Thursday, 6 February 2003 01:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― matt riedl (veal), Thursday, 6 February 2003 19:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
like you would give a shit if some male musician was "trustworthy" or not. and if iggy pop ran around london naked you'd think it was awesome. THERE IS A DOUBLE STANDARD AND THAT'S THAT.
― phuket, Thursday, 6 February 2003 20:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
What do you know about me and my standards? "Trustworthy" - who said that?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 February 2003 20:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
i just wish people (male AND female) would admit that they judge her conduct more harshly cause she's a woman.
― phuket, Thursday, 6 February 2003 21:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 February 2003 22:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 February 2003 23:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 6 February 2003 23:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
Courtney = foxy
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 6 February 2003 23:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 February 2003 23:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
I agree, she's a bit of a fool sometimes.But I wouldn't HATE someone, because they're loud and annoying.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 6 February 2003 23:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 6 February 2003 23:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
See this month's Q for further evidence...
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 6 February 2003 23:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 February 2003 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
now there's a name I didn't expect to see mentioned here.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 February 2003 00:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
Hmmm. Does Drudge have past "beef" with Courtney?
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link