Taking Sides: Beavis and Butthead vs Daria

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Like I can accept the critical judgements of someone who thinks Carter USM is the shizit.

I say both shows are funny in different ways.

― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 20 September 2002 22:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

...the mystery of the quiet/loud dynamic...

― RickyT (RickyT), Friday, 20 September 2002 22:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Someone I knew once wrote a huge thing on Carter USM for our school magazine in which he called them "loud but subtle". If only I'd remembered that before titling my article.

Daria should listen to more Carter.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 20 September 2002 23:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

hmmph to everyone

(except nabisco and some other people)

― Graham (graham), Friday, 20 September 2002 23:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

"loud but subtle"

My favorite mock critical phrase is "minimalist yet expansive"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 September 2002 00:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

DARIA! DARIA! DARIA!

― nory (nory), Saturday, 21 September 2002 00:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

The more I think about this the more I think B&B blows Daria away. Daria not even the best thing they re-run on Noggin. Mike Judge has yet to do wrong by me.

― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 21 September 2002 01:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

CELEBRITY ENDORSEMENT:
biba k*pf likes daria: i think it is the only TV light-entertainment diversion he has been known to approve of, apart from berlin alexanderplatz obv

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 September 2002 09:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think that settles it, then.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 21 September 2002 10:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

B-b-but Mark, what about the tv version of Das Boot?!?!

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 21 September 2002 11:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

DARIA!

By miles and miles, one of the funniest ever moments on TV was when they were going on the military camp trip and one of them asks the psycho bulging eye teacher "will we have a buddy system", and he goes "I had a buddy ONCE, then I got home and he'd MARRIED MY MOTHER!!!!!!" totally fucking freaking. It was classic.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 21 September 2002 12:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Beavis & Butthead" may well be the most overrated thing in the world, ever. That it's a "alarmingly accurate portrayal of suburban youth with access to too much sugar and MTV", because frankly those suburban youths are a lot more entertaining IRL than B&B ever were.

― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 21 September 2002 12:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

''biba k*pf likes daria: i think it is the only TV light-entertainment diversion he has been known to approve of, apart from berlin alexanderplatz obv''

daria wins by a mile. grateful dead fans are always right!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 21 September 2002 14:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

See? Ronan is always right.

Also I think everyone who's harping on Daria's being humorless has not watched enough of the show: the whole premise was that Daria wandered around observing the hilarious antics of everyone else and dropping in a bon mot every sixth minute or so. In the end it was quite possibly more about Quinn than Daria.

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 21 September 2002 15:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

(Also Daria's dad totally looks like Nory's dad.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 21 September 2002 15:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

they're both good, but i could never get excited about daria. i would seek out beavis and butthead, after austin stories, they were the best mtv times.

― ron (ron), Saturday, 21 September 2002 15:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

what we need, Nabisco (especially my pal Tim B, who adores her) is a real world Jane Lane.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 21 September 2002 15:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

So wait, you know Nory, Nabisco? Who is this good soul? I've liked the Nory posts so far. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 September 2002 16:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

norys got some good early buzz going on

― boxcubed (boxcubed), Saturday, 21 September 2002 17:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

"i like a beer buzz first thing in the morning"

― ron (ron), Saturday, 21 September 2002 17:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Daria by far. Surprised the Digital Archive Project hasn't picked it (or Austin Stories) up yet.

― Chris Barrus (xibalba), Saturday, 21 September 2002 19:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

I really don't think Daria's dad looks like my dad, at all.

(and I'm glad you've liked my posts, Ned)

― nory (nory), Saturday, 21 September 2002 23:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hurrah for Nory! :-) Yer welcome.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 September 2002 01:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Quinn was the Xander, Daria's dad was the Bez.

― James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 22 September 2002 03:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Daria = Ghost World. Therefore = SHIT!

― david h (david h), Sunday, 22 September 2002 07:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Beavis and Butthead, easily. I like Daria but I'm a bit bored of it. B&B episodes are so much shorter and funnier! But then again I am pretty close to obsessed.

― Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Sunday, 22 September 2002 10:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

SANDY IS THE BEZ!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 22 September 2002 12:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Haven't seen B&B so can't comment, but I've liked quite a bit of Daria. nabisco seems to be OTM.

― Ess Kay (esskay), Sunday, 22 September 2002 12:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Daria was funnier on Beavis and Butthead.

― James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 22 September 2002 22:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Beavis and Butthead, easy. I used to love Daria but on rewatching it kept getting annoyed w/D's all-too-easy teenage girl cynicism... too many large, slowmoving targets. The best characters are worth watching it for though; Upchuck, the football player and his girlfriend, Daria's dad. Jane Lane and her dickhead brother bugged me.

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 23 September 2002 00:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

'what we need, Nabisco (especially my pal Tim B, who adores her) is a real world Jane Lane. ' -Martin

I suspect a real world Claire Defoe, if only to evade the child-molesting charges... unless I'm sent back in time or something...

Actually, there IS a real-world Clair. She's married to a friend of mine, sadly (and typically) ...

― Tim Bateman, Monday, 23 September 2002 10:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

two years pass...

Almost everyone in this thread was CRAZY. Daria is mildly amusing every couple minutes, B&B is non-stop lols.

Discuss.

― Sansai, Thursday, 23 September 2004 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I concur. End of discussion.

― Sexual Air Supply (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 23 September 2004 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link

daria rocked!
beavis & butthead were also great.

i love both but my old roomamte had a song featured on daria so if forced to choose i'd give her her the edge.

more seriously (or as serious as you can be with B&B) one is a sketch show and one is a sitcom - can you compare 'em?

― H (Heruy), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link

And why isn't Daria acknowledged as one of the greatest things ever?
-- Dom Passantino (killallgoth...), September 20th, 2002.

because it's not.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Almost everyone in this thread was CRAZY. Daria is mildly amusing every couple minutes, B&B is non-stop lols.
Discuss.

-- Sansai (dfasfds...), September 23rd, 2004.

OTM.

i don't think any show has nailed down the wasteland that is suburban america better than 'beavis and butthead'.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Plus B&B was always so relentness in its low-key nihilism.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Also it's just way more fun to watch stupid characters than "smart" characters commenting on stupid characters.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Never really cared for either, actually. Give me "Ren & Stimpy" over both of'em any day of the week.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link

ren & stimpy could be funny at times but after a while it just started trying way to hard to be "out there" and fucked up.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

daria really was godawful. it's amazing what you'll put up with as a disaffected teenager.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 23 September 2004 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link

It was the classic case of the secondary character working best as just that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 September 2004 00:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Indie Guilt: C/D

― Cripps Pink (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 24 September 2004 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link

being unable to get a date as a sign of failure vs being unable to get a date as a sign of superiority.

both! but Daria was a much better show

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 24 September 2004 00:31 (nineteen years ago) link

the grown man daria realization wasn't half as hearbreaking as the grown man thundercats realization tho

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 24 September 2004 00:33 (nineteen years ago) link

ack, i meant B&B were much better

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 24 September 2004 00:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, I liked the Daria show a whole lot, it was basically the entertaining version of my life in high school. I feel kind of pained reading this thread, but I suppose it's because I took that show too personally. Daria's not my real name!

Beavis & Butt-head is prob my favorite show of all time though.

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 24 September 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Since they ostensibly occupy the same 'world' (high school), did B&B ever appear on Daria's show even in passing?

― Richard K (Richard K), Friday, 24 September 2004 04:59 (nineteen years ago) link

nope. as Mike Judge will point out in interviews, he had very, very little to do with the Daria show.

― Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Friday, 24 September 2004 05:04 (nineteen years ago) link

My friend Sara D. was Mike Judge's assistant for a couple of years. Had some interesting stories to tell. Not all of them flattering.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 24 September 2004 05:06 (nineteen years ago) link

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So has anybody else got the Daria DVD set? The whole music issue hasn't turned out so bad - the replacement soundtrack captures the feel of the original, though in a couple of cases it jars (like in the "Everybody Hurts" video reference).

The extras are fun, but a bit scanty; there's barely anything to the cast interviews.

But it's great to have the entire series on top-quality DVD.

― Duane Barry, Thursday, 27 May 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link

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