otm, he does it on purpose
― sexyDancer, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Mulholland Dr. is wayyyyy more boring than Inland Empire. After you watch it once or twice and figure out that it's a dream, do you really ever want to watch it again? I mean, apart from the tryout scene/"Llorando" clip(/lesbian make out sessions???), it's not THAT great/entertaining. I liked it quite a bit, i'm just turned off by the idea of it being considered Lynch's best work.
― Tape Store, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link
^^^Yes, I realize that I just lost what little credibility that I had.
― Tape Store, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link
I could watch the "real" last third of MD forever. Naomi Watts being rejected by girlfriend and Hollywood, condescended to at Hollywood parties by ghoulish Ann Murray eating walnuts, drinking bad coffee and masturbating in her apartment -- very painful.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link
"After you watch it once or twice and figure out that it's a dream, do you really ever want to watch it again?"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
― Alex in SF, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link
mulholland drive has all the best lynchian symbolic, thematic etc potency while actually being cohesive (it doesnt seem like hes just being willfully strange) and one of the great performances ever from naomi watts.
― jhøshea, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link
There's duff stray bits that seem like stuff from the TV pilot (the conversation in the Denny's; Robert Forster), but, still, a remarkable salvage job.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link
I voted for MD.
― Jordan, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Twin Peaks Blue Velvet Eraserhead Dune RABBITS Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me The Straight Story The Elephant Man Mulholland Drive
Lost Highway
Inland Empire (mostly for the inclusion of RABBITS) Wild at Heart
TP:FWWM is easily the worst though, right?
no!
― ☪, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link
you cant really fuck with the rebekah del rio - llorando scene
― chaki, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link
actually I think Wild At Heart is probably the worst
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link
"There's duff stray bits that seem like stuff from the TV pilot (the conversation in the Denny's; Robert Forster), but, still, a remarkable salvage job."
Agreed. This is why it's not #2 on my list.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Wild At Heart isn't the worst by virtue of the soundtrack and the crazy head blowing off scene.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:00 (sixteen years ago) link
But yeah it's pretty bad.
Eraserhead (1977) Mulholland Drive (2001) / INLAND EMPIRE (2006) Blue Velvet (1986) The Elephant Man (1980) Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (1992) Wild at Heart (1990) Lost Highway (1997) Dune (1984)
haven't quite worked out where I stand with inland empire. need to see it a few more times. eraserhead doesn't make sense anywhere else so it burbles to the top. blue velvet has some special significance for me, that *so* wrecked my head in '86.
it's great that lynch is currently in a second golden age.
― Edward III, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I loved wild at heart when it came out, saw it 3-4 times. it was such a daffy, off-the-wall cinema experience. it hasn't aged well, though.
― Edward III, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:07 (sixteen years ago) link
and the crazy head blowing off scene.
I don't even remember this scene!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link
i'd defend wild at heart as maybe "least appreciated" (although there are several candidates for that). for me it's the dividing line between his great movies and his varying-degrees-of-not-great movies (with wild at heart just on the side of "great"). i think it's kind of his airplane! -- a zillion jokes (not all of them "jokes", of course), with enough things that work to make up for all the ones that don't. lots of great scenes. the car crash in the desert with sherilynn fenn picking at her brain iis easily in my POX david lynch scenes.
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link
the conversation in the Denny's
this is one of my favorite bits in md! it captures a humdrum-but-surreal dream-feel so well, maybe better than anything else in the film (other bits seem more stylized). it is sorta tv-piloty in relation to the whole, but the sequence is flawless execution. and it wakes up the dozers.
― Edward III, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link
tm OTM re: car crash scene
― Tape Store, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Mulholland Drive is the best movie of this decade you guys.
― W4LTER, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link
lotsa memorable sequences in wild at heart - strobe light / thrash metal dancing, koko taylor, fetid new orleans, fenn's car crash, the weird motel scene with john doe, jack nance, et al. the glue holding everything together is pretty weak, though. and by glue I guess I mean nicolas cage.
a certain sequence in the film was a lot more mysterious before "wicked game" got played to death, too.
― Edward III, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Hey Naomi Watts fans, I dare you to check out CHILDREN OF THE CORN PT. IV: THE GATHERING. I have a VHS tape in my basement.
― Tape Store, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:23 (sixteen years ago) link
now I'm thinking I need to rewatch these 3:
Wild at Heart (1990) Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (1992) Lost Highway (1997)
― Edward III, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link
ooh was that the one after URBAN HARVEST?
x-post
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link
no thanks, ts. that sounds like an offer from a serial killer.
xpost
I wonder if wild at heart would've aged better if lynch had reeled in cage and dafoe a bit. he should've hung a sign on the camera that said, "do not chew the scenery. you are not dennis hopper."
― Edward III, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link
i like cage's goofier moments. the dancing, his ridiculous "taste the peach" anecdote (eat the peach? whatever it is), his little spiel at the end to the guys who have just kicked the crap out of him.
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Nic Cage is like the Rod Stewart of American film actors - a great, promising start followed by the most horrifying "sellout" bullshit ever
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link
"take a bite of peach"
― Alex in SF, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link
that's the one.
also, source material for the shot of diane ladd with her face covered in red lipstick? when i saw black moon a few months ago i noticed a similar scene there, and that seems like the kind of movie lynch would have loved, but i don't know if they were both referencing something else?
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Tape Store, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 08:23 (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
:D
― W4LTER, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Not sure that scans, Shakey, since not only was Rod BORN to sell out, but he made lots of great moments after his purported classic years.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link
this applies to Nick Cage too
I voted for Blue Velvet because it is the closest he's come to a flawless movie. Many of the others are great, but have rather glaring flaws. The Straight Story is the only one that I don't enjoy, but it is probably better than I would give it credit for.
My list (Does not reflect actual quality of the films): Blue Velvet Lost Highway - way underrated, wish it would come out on DVD Wild At Heart Dune - I love this movie despite some really misguided choices, I wish he'd do another Sci Fi film TP: FWWM Mulholland Drive INLAND EMPIRE - just got the DVD today! Eraserhead The Elephant Man
― Moodles, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link
!!You crazy! Everything after Red Rock West is nigh unwatchable!
Bangkok Dangerous Next Ghost Rider The Wicker Man World Trade Center The Ant Bully The Weather Man Lord of War National Treasure Matchstick Men Adaptation Sonny Windtalkers Captain Corelli's Mandolin The Family Man Gone in Sixty Seconds Bringing Out the Dead 8MM Snake Eyes City of Angels Face/Off Con Air The Rock Leaving Las Vegas Kiss of Death Trapped in Paradise It Could Happen to You Guarding Tess Amos & Andrew Deadfall Honeymoon in Vegas
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link
i like face/off kinda
(more than mulholland dr. or lost highway that's for sure) (i watched mulholland w.dr vick and we snoozed non-stop)
― mark s, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link
eraserhead is still lynch's best easy -- tho i didn't see inland yet
― mark s, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:57 (sixteen years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Alia-Alicia_Witt.jpg/250px-Alia-Alicia_Witt.jpg "for he IS the kwisatz haderach"
― mark s, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Although there is much I enjoy in it, I agree that Mulholland Drive is overrated.
The thing about MD that grates on me is that Lynch insisted on leaving in all these plot strands that were meant to be developed in the TV series and then very obviously tried to tie it all together in a fairly hackneyed manner.
He should have chopped a lot of this stuff and focused on the main plot. He could have even dropped most of the Justin Therroux plot, and it probably wouldn't have been missed.
― Moodles, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Bringing Out the Dead is good.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link
And Snake Eyes has a great start (and terrible end.)
― Alex in SF, Monday, 20 August 2007 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link
And Lord of War could have been great only it wasn't.
THat's the best I can do.
What a fucking BRO http://www.nndb.com/people/720/000024648/david-lynch.jpg http://www.humanities.uci.edu/fvc/f05pics/f05_davidlynch.jpg
― W4LTER, Monday, 20 August 2007 23:02 (sixteen years ago) link
mulholland dr. is the best film of the last 25 years.
― t0dd swiss, Monday, 20 August 2007 23:04 (sixteen years ago) link
I said decade, but i'll join you on the the quarter century action.
― W4LTER, Monday, 20 August 2007 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link
it's not better than eraserhead
― mark s, Monday, 20 August 2007 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link
tho
― mark s, Monday, 20 August 2007 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link
hence the 25 year cutoff
― Edward III, Monday, 20 August 2007 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link
(ah yeah, per the soundtrack clue, it is)
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 29 April 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link