And damn, now I'm craving a sushi dinner followed by a viewing of Lethal Weapon II.
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― Dan (ELECTRIC BOOGALOO) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link
They have a different sequence for the TV version.
Toy Story 2 seconded, as is Drunken Master II.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link
They better hurry up before 1984 ends. Oh.
― JTS (JTS), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link
SUPERMAN II
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link
my man. poster of it in my bathroom. u hear about the 'green' edition anthony? some hardcore '..2' fans are putting together a version without dick lester's scenes, extra footage they found etc.
heh he probably doesn't even come on this board anynore.
other votes:
'lethal wepaon 2' yes agreed.'empire strikes back' obviously'naked gun 2' also.
― piscesboy, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link
"Admit you love Superman II, inhabitants of planet Houston, and I will alow you to live."
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Here's a graph that shows how much better or worse sequels were as compared to the original:
http://www.saasta.fi/saasta/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/sequel-map-1-4.png
― Tuomas, Sunday, 3 April 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't get the idea on this thread that Babe: Pig In The City is superior. Maybe if what you like in a movie is wacky set design and the potential for drinking games based on 'spot the background goth' it is the better movie.
― Publicidad de Sexo (Abbbottt), Sunday, 3 April 2011 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
After the Thin Man
― Aimless, Sunday, 3 April 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link
― Publicidad de Sexo (Abbbottt), Sunday, April 3, 2011 1:44 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
otm! this opinion has always bugged me. i mean, it's nice to look at, but it just doesnt have the ~*HeArT*~ of the original
― ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 3 April 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I hear The Substitute 2 is even better than The Substitute!
― San Te, Sunday, 3 April 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Saw this thread and came to post Gremlins 2 only to see that was what prompted the thing to begin with. Anyway Gremlins 2 for all time. The Gremlins musical number of NY, NY at the end is a thing of beauty.
― ENBB, Sunday, 3 April 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
one time I was on a road trip and someone in the car spent like an hour summarizing babe: pig in the city
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 3 April 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay, here's what I got!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 October 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link
Wrath of Khan, and actually, every subsequent film in the franchise, isn't a Star Trek film at all. Only ST: The Motion Picture really captures the sort of sixties era Sci-Fi that the original series offered, and despite its interminable masturbatory drydock sequence, is the only ST with any sense of wonder. Also the best soundtrack, by far.
― prelude to abjection (Sanpaku), Monday, 23 October 2017 04:25 (six years ago) link
Generally agree, but including Exorcist 2 is an op of the most chall variety.
― The Wetting Planner (Old Lunch), Monday, 23 October 2017 04:26 (six years ago) link
I think Kael is a fan too.
― iCloudius (cryptosicko), Monday, 23 October 2017 04:27 (six years ago) link
Agree ST:II is Moby Dick in space, but Star Trek IV is the Star Trekkiest (and is about saving literal whales rather than hunting metaphorical ones)!
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 23 October 2017 05:51 (six years ago) link
Surprised nobody mentioned Romero's 'Dawn of the Dead'
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 23 October 2017 05:52 (six years ago) link
They are all star treks tho any other position is extremely silly
― Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 23 October 2017 07:16 (six years ago) link
Alfred, why do you think Temple of Doom is superior to Raiders? I'm genuinely interested why you'd think so.(I certainly don't think it's a bad film but I would side with the general perception that Raiders & Last Crusade are the better movies.)
Some great superhero sequels:Captain America: The Winter Soldier; Raimi's Spider-Man 2 and X2 are three of my favourite superhero movies/movies in general.Third Cap (Civil War) is also up there.And I'm also quite in awe of the second Avengers (Age of Ultron) & the (more divisive) third Iron Man.
― Valentijn, Monday, 23 October 2017 07:51 (six years ago) link
Because it's vulgar and abhorred by the PCSJW crowd?
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2017 11:37 (six years ago) link
I like Temple, and it coincides right with Spielberg's Poltergeist/Gremlins mean streak, but the only case I could make for it being better than Raiders is that it's so loud and garish it stands out as a novelty. Musical intro is peak 'Berg, though.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 October 2017 12:02 (six years ago) link
I've never enjoyed Godfather 2 - flashback aside, it doesn't do much more than restate the last fifteen minutes of the first movie, with slightly more depressing totality. And the Lansky analogue is boring.
Iron Man 3 is much more fun the first two, how did it get to be divisive? Is it the Kingsley stuff?
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 23 October 2017 12:10 (six years ago) link
the final sequence of killings in Godfather 2 very deliberately plays on the contrast with the first movie
― pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 October 2017 12:13 (six years ago) link
I mean, how? He kills people who are closer to him, sure. But it feels like Michael changes a lot less over the course of 2 than 1 - in the first movie it's surprising, in the second movie it's predictable.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 23 October 2017 12:26 (six years ago) link
I don't deny it's a sad, beautiful movie! But I always feel like shrugging at the end.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 23 October 2017 12:27 (six years ago) link
I think in the first movie the killings are almost necessary or inevitable - we believe Michael believes he is doing this to protect the family, to begin a move towards legitimacy - that he has to kill or be killed. obviously this also marks the beginning of his corruption but there is a brutal nobility about it. by the end of 2 we're in no doubt that the darkness has swallowed him up, and that none of the killings are really justifiable, they're petty, they're acts of tyrannical vengeance.
― pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 October 2017 12:38 (six years ago) link
Alfred, why do you think Temple of Doom is superior to Raiders? I'm genuinely interested why you'd think so.
I don't dislike Raiders. Temple is closer to the spirit of those Saturday afternoon specials that Spielberg loved as a kid.
Also, I may be the only human being who likes Kate Capshaw's idiot, and in some way Spielberg's treatment of her is more honest than Karen Allen's spunk in ROTLA; I mean, he turns Marion into another INDYYYY-yelling willow.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 October 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link
*than how he treated Karen Allen's, etc
So having Kate Capshaw a screaming idiot from the start is an improvement? That's one way to look at it.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 October 2017 13:09 (six years ago) link
in keeping with the times, man
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 October 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link
she's a nightclub singer ffs
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link
i suspect Alfred has seen 1.5 Star Trek TV episodes
Khan has a certain submarine-movie resemblance to "Balance of Terror" tho
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2017 13:12 (six years ago) link
yes for real even though Gremlins 1 is a classic Gremlins 2 is so good
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 10 November 2017 04:04 (six years ago) link