A question for those whom have never known snow...

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I actually meant it the other way around, Sam -- that the long duration of the winters would make people complain about it more, because you have time for the novelty to wear off and you get sick of being sick (or everyone around you being sick; somehow that's worse because you can't do anything about it). But for NY, I don't know -- I was guessing based on NH (which, granted, I lived in back when things were colder).

For me, heat will always trump cold because in few parts of the country does heat hurt. Sure, you can suffer heat stroke and heat exhaustion, but rarely by just standing around, and even in hot parts of the country those aren't usual risks for a typical summer day. Waiting for the bus in sub-zero weather, bundled up like that kid from A Christmas Story, and still in pain because of how cold the air is when I inhale? Dud. But that's just the "I hate being covered in sweat after walking to the mailbox" analogue; ultimately there is not much objective to say about weather except to note that it happens.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh I love this thread. I really hope it snows this year, we never get enough. Even the Highlands don't get as much as they once did - hence the closure of some of the ski resorts.

We had quite a good snowfall about three years ago, really thick and heavy and the best I've seen in my lifetime.

Last year Kev and I went 'snowchasing' and ended up in a carpark in Aberfoyle doing handbrake turns in the two inches of snow. We were only about thirty miles from home but even as we drove back towards Glasgow the snow was disappearing.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link

can someone please do change that "whom" it's hurting my eyes more than any snowball ever did.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I like it, it's kinda foppish....

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I like it. It just proves why they should get rid of "whom" altogether.

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread is FOR WHOM THE SNOW TOLLS
(I cannot believe what a bunch of grammar bitches some of you people are - live a little)

― Apparently now known as (o )( o) (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I love snow, esp. because snow means sledding. Ice storms, on the other hand, worry me.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

i like snow cos it keeps tolling threads.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

there was this one really beautiful moment about 5 years ago, i was looking outside my university window. It was the first day of snow of the year. Just as I was admiring the tranquility of the snow covered land, a group of foreign students from the far east appeared and I figured that they had never seen snow in person before, as they were getting very excited and half of them started rolling around in the snow. It was really sweet. They all looked so happy.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

anyone else make snow cream? it may be a weird regional thing, but it is yummy!

― Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Is that like a snow cone?

― The boobs previously known as Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

you take fresh snow, put in large mixing bowl, add sugar, vanilla extract and milk/cream. we usually used uwhipped heavy whipping cream. anyway, then stir together. it is like slushy ice cream, but very refreshing. also adding mint is tasty.

― Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

But snow is dirty! Even 'fresh' snow! Would you drink rainwater?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Only with grain alcohol

― Jimmy Mod always makes friends with women before bedding them down (ModJ), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought that was a dirty joke.

How do you make snow cream?

Give it a blow-job fnar fnar.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

dirty, shmirty. live a little. anyway, i don't live in love canal.

― Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah, snow. Nice to regard from a distance.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

You mean from California?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Such a wise man you are.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I would love to see the madness that would result from a freak blizzard in Cali.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Lots of people drink rain water...

I don't think I could live without snow. Like rain, the sea, wind etc. It's good that I live in Scotland.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I kind of realized that to those with little snow experience; snow = lovely & picturesque, something to appreciate for its beauty.
But to those who(m) have become accustomed it and what it brings; snow = chaos & pain, something to fear!

It's both to me. Sometimes simultaneously.

I'm with Tep re: The Heat vs. The Cold. In addition to what he said, The Cold is more soul-destroying than heat. Heat makes you lazy and tired and sweaty. Cold makes you want to kick God in the balls with cleats. I don't know how it is elsewhere, but here it's cloudy 4 out of 5 days in the winter. That coupled with The Cold makes one miserable. In Phoenix in July, the heat is oppressive but at least it's sunny. Sunshine does me good. I spent a good deal of time in Phoenix during the summer months, helped my sister move when it was 113F. It did suck, but not as much as the time I helped her move back to Chicago and it took me half an hour to get the lock off the back of the truck because it was frozen. In a Phoenix summer, the night provides a bit of a respite. Still hot, but you could go for a hike or a stroll without too much discomfort. In a Chicago winter, it's cold as fuck during the day, and EVEN COLDER at night. Fuck this shit.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh and snow ain't shit. Ice is the real S.O.B. Spent 5 minutes outside this morning (30 mins earlier I was in my warm, cozy bed) just trying to get into my car because the doors (and the locks) were ffrozen shut. Then another 5 minutes scraping the ice off of every window, 4 sq inches at a time. I almost slipped and busted my shit a dozen times cause I'm in dressyish shoes and, yep, the driveway had a nice coating of ice, too. Fuck this shit.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

We don't get as much snow as our grannies did though Kevin....

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I would love to see the madness that would result from a freak blizzard in Cali.
I remember when I lived in Texas and every once in a blue moon there would be a light dusting of snow and it would feel incredibly dangerous to drive on the highway because everybody would drive either: (a) too slow, about 20 mph, or (b) too fast, 65 plus mph, as if it wasn't snowing at all.

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link

The Cold is more soul-destroying than heat. Heat makes you lazy and tired and sweaty. Cold makes you want to kick God in the balls with cleats

but doesn't being angry have more soul than being lazy??

(but yes of course if you did manage to kick god's balls, he'd damn well really destroy your soul)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

That's true, Rumpy. I definitely prefer being cold to being hot - it's easier to control your temperature starting from cold than hot.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

That's just for the first month or so, the wanting to harm and maim the Creator. After that, your spirit has been broken, you are God's bitch, and you're in a corner (by the heat vent, obv) rocking back and forth while sucking on your thumb.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Having grown up with snow or slush every winter as a child, I love living within driving distance of snow without having to endure it all winter.

Funny, oops.

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link

The only thing "better" about the cold: you can always put on another layer, but you can only take off so many, esp if don't want to get arrested. But the flipside is that in The Heat, girlies be scantily-clad.

xpost yeah that would be ideal. nice place to visit, etc.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I sleep better in the cold, assuming I have sufficient blankets/heat.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Of course, getting out of a warm bed in the mornings is sometimes an unthinkable task.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I remember when I lived in Texas and every once in a blue moon there would be a light dusting of snow and it would feel incredibly dangerous to drive on the highway because everybody would drive either: (a) too slow, about 20 mph, or (b) too fast, 65 plus mph, as if it wasn't snowing at all.

In Chicago, people are the same way. Those going way too fast tend to be SUVs and others who have 4 wheel drive, which helps you get going in the snow but doesn't help at all when braking, genius.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link

They should be going even slower than people in sedans, since their brakes have an extra ton or two worth of momentum to work against.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, the freeways are downright scary after the first snow, people don't remember how to deal with it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link

We got a pretty good snowfall the day before Thanksgiving, (didn't pay attention to the weatherman beforehand, so had to use my sleeves to wipe off the 4 inches of compacted snow on my car. FUN!) and traffic was hellish. I stayed away from the tollway and made it home in 45 mins (usually takes a lil more than a half hour). My friend and sister took the interstates, and had an over 2 hour commute home.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I am so glad I was in Denver for the Great Snowfall of March '03 - it was just astonishing, amazing, wondrous, though it became hugely inconvenient obviously. But three feet of snow - I doubt I'll ever see it again.

― Jesus Christ, Paraplegic (Mark C), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't drive. None of what you guys are talking about bothers me at all. My bike seat was covered in ice this morning, though, so I walked to work. *shrug* That's life.

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Not if you're somewhere warm it isn't!

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Kenan, last year was the mildest winter I can remember. We only had like, what, 5 days of bitter cold? I can't imagine that biking around when it's 0 degrees better than driving around during it.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

J-Rock on the icy-ass money. I spent nearly three decades on the Canadian prairies, and after that much time, I think snow is something I could do without until the end of my days. Fuck snow. Thankfully there's not too much in Toronto, which I can live with. But those drifts that go up to your neck are only fun when you don't have to contend with practical issues like, you know, fuck, getting to work.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

You've ever worn pants that are a lil loose around the ankle? And it's windy and snowy and the wind and snow goes right up your pant legs?
You ever had your back start hurting cause you've been hunched over, trying to expose as little of your body to the wind and cold as possible?
I don't know how Canadians can possibly deal with their weather.
Fuck this shit.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Kenan, last year was the mildest winter I can remember.

I believe it. We're getting ice and snow about 3-4 weeks earlier this year than last. I do remember having to walk from one side of the loop to the other when it was -8 outside, and that sucked, but it was just the one day.

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Weirdly, last year was unusually cold for Indiana, and we're not that far from you (yeah yeah, I know, I always forget how big the Midwest is). The kind of weather we're getting right now, last year we got it at the end of September. (Well, the kind of weather we got until just last night, I should say: there is something admirable in the first snow arriving after midnight on the last night of November.)

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Lucky Bloomingtonians. We got ice instead.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I may have to start setting aside some cash every month for cab fare. It's like a $5 cab ride to work. I can swing that once or twice a week, if necessary. And man, does it make life easier.

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Ours is gone now anyway -- the ground's too warm to keep it, and it melted and refroze on the cars except the windows, which have that coldmold that looks like snow but scrapes like ice.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Even sledding was ruined for me. A few years ago I sled right into a tree. Fucked my back up and couldn't move. Had to have paramedics rescue me. Then had to listen to them bitch about having to hike a little ways and then carry me out. THAT'S YOUR JOB, BITCH.
And when I was in 5th grade, my best friend's sister pushed me while we were playing on ice. I fell and broke my collarbone.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 19:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm so sorry.

Ice skating is fun, though, right?

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I love ice skating!

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link

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