David Fincher -- c/d?

http://io9.com/359193/david-fincher-catches-mutant-std-from-charles-burns

book is awesome, Fincher perfectly suited to the material. Gaiman's involvement = uhhhh, but still...

i was so drunk on this thread

yeah, does gaiman get these screenplay gigs by default now because he's worked in comics and film? it's not like any of the movies he's been involved with have been big successes.

Fincher's slated to/actually directing ratio not very encouraging.

(i guess beowulf made $$$, didn't see it)

Wait, what:

We're also interested to see what The Finch does with Rendezvous with Rama, which he's also directing.

morgan freeman, right?

Fincher's slated to/actually directing ratio not very encouraging.

-- Cosmo Vitelli, Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:51 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

^^^

'rendezvous' has been "slated" since honeys was wearin sassoon.

i still remember his idea of a three-hour black-and-white adaptation of 'the black dahlia', which in retrospect makes me depressed.

probably woulda been better than DePalma's lolz

gaiman kinda sucks.

i love that rendezvous w rama (awesome book) is morgan freeman's dream project

When I saw this headline on Empireonline, my initial thought was that he was remaking Disney's The Black Hole, which would've been something.

I've not read Black Hole, but the other Burns stuff I've read suggests the two would be a great marriage.

lolz I thought it was about the Disney movie at first too

(BH is easily Burns' best work btw)

I wonder how this will compare to Liquid Television's DogBoy hahah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL7ISg8_GcQ

"If you've ever suffered from clinical depression, you know the experience is impossible to convey to someone who hasn't also gone through it. It doesn't make sense. It's like trying to describe why you love somebody. How do you explain a lack of feeling, or interest, or pleasure, that is both numbing and excruciatingly painful? How do you account for a disconnection with the past and any conception of a future? It's not "living in the moment" -- it's being stuck in a moment from which you can't imagine any escape -- not just the feeling that this asphyxiating near-deadness will go on forever, but that you can't imagine ever having felt any other way (even though, logically, you know that is not possible). You can remember feeling pleasure -- no, make that "having felt pleasure" -- but you have no memory of what it actually felt like. One of the (many) reasons I probably connect so strongly with David Fincher's "Fight Club" (1999) is that, by capturing clinical depression more accurately than any other movie I've ever seen (though Laurent Cantet's "Time Out" and Eric Steel's "The Bridge" delve mighty deep into that abyss), it helped shake me out of the grips of a depression that was sucking me down at the time. I was the only person in the theater convulsed with laughter from beginning to end, because it was liberating, exhilarating, to see the truth of my own inner experience reflected back at me in its funhouse mirror...."

http://blogs.suntimes.com/scanners/2008/07/fight_club_i_am_jacks_manicdep.html

Haha I just read that this morning, Morbius. I've got Emerson's RSS in Google Reader.

alien 3 made him hated by everyone in the world. except me, actually. i didn't mind it. i liked the sound of it. in fact i went back to the theatre and taped the movie with my tape recorder and then played it for weeks on my walkman when i walked to my midnight shift at the supermarket in new milford, connecticut.

!!!

Tip to clinically depressed people: don't play Alien 3 on your walkman.

For the record, I think it's an underrated film too.

Alien 3 was my fav Fincher film until Zodiac came out.

Zodiac pushes him into classic status (prob one of my favorite movies of the decade) and Fight Club is tremendous too...other than that I actively dislike the rest of these movies!

I see there's a new trade pb of essays on FC ... one dealing with the gay subtext (sic) called "The Club That Dare Not Speak Its Name."

http://www.amazon.com/You-Talk-About-Fight-Club/dp/1933771526

i still haven't seen zodiac; fight club is some bullshit. i like the madonna video for express yourself.

i had this

Zodiac puts Fight Club to shame

(which is not hard, since FC is so goddamn silly)

we know your views on this, I think

that should make it harder, it's easier to shame something serious

I really can't think of 5 film comedies better than Fight Club in the last 10 years.

crazy talk

Apatow's two movies are both funnier lolz

FC>Zodiac>Seven>Alien3>The Game>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Panic Room

funnier does not = better tho

the game is great

I am always confused by the Fight Club backlash

too many people think its great

so contrarianism then. thats kind of what i thought.

its nihilism is boring and self-congratulatory and the basic premise is a bunch of nonsensical macho fantasy bullshit

the basic premise is a bunch of nonsensical macho fantasy bullshit

O RLY???

this is going to get into a source material problem again i think. not that i agree w/your summary, but you can hardly blame fincher for that. xpost

hey he made the movie

similar to what i said about tdk & all adaptations: who gives a shit about the source, & why is that in any way relevant to the discussione??

its basic premise IS a bunch of nonsensical macho fantasy bullshit, like, literally - i dont get how thats a valid criticism

Shakes, have you read the Palahniuk? It's more a tap-in to depressive/sadomasochistic issues than "macho bullshit."

who gives a shit about the source, & why is that in any way relevant to the discussion

Because, except for a little wobbling before the climax, it's a fairly faithful adaptation (tho a tad more romantic-comedy) and reading it might help people who are seeing things in the film that ain't there.

FC being about nihilism doesn't make it nihilist.

guy seems like a terrible writer from the flip-through I gave it. granted that was years ago.

most of his other books are much worse

FC>Zodiac>Seven>Alien3>The Game>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Panic Room

almost otm though i would switch zodiac and fight club and put a lot more distance between the game and alien 3

i disliked the movie for its 90s-style ahistoricism. ends on a 'revolutionary' note w/o even a hint of real politics leading up to, beyond contempt for ikea and fat women. seemed to reconfirm every stereotype that men of my generation are clueless. bolsheviks, who are they duuuude

how is a conclusion wherein the protagonist kisses his g/f with half his head blown off while buildings explode all around him NOT nihilistic?

(ftr the split-second porn insert is a much-needed bit of levity and I appreciated it)

x-post

a bad pun ignored develops into a long, slurring ad hom attack, digging up stuff from the past. Mank is an ilxor.