― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:22 (nineteen years ago) link
I recall reading a single article some years ago about how there was severe colour-of-skin based racism in Scotland, both in the cities and outside them. Its argument was that it wasn't spoken about because no-one wanted to make a noise about it esp since the people who might have made a noise about it are happy with the image of Scotland as a sound left-leaning country. But I've never seen anything similar since, was it a load of made-up nonsense?
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link
you should take a look at the stats before making such general assumptions, the north of england, particularly areas of the north west, was, and in parts still is, a bastion of support for the tories.
― Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:36 (nineteen years ago) link
well that's all of us screwed, then
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link
??
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:51 (nineteen years ago) link
the main problem is that you can never get rid of the bubbles.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 11:58 (nineteen years ago) link
I think the asylum seekers being shipped into Sighthill awakened a lot of latent racism, but the folk who live there are of the poor giro-class pack mentality anyway.
― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 27 May 2004 12:03 (nineteen years ago) link
Apart from Asian families there was very little variety of cultures where I was brought up, certainly no West-Indian, African or Eastern European people. I felt a total hick on my first Southbound Victoria-Line train journey after moving to London and I kinda realised that the geographical seperation of my childhood was a total petri-dish for that evil, almost casual half-hearted regionalism and racism that stinks up many Scottish peoples attitudes.
― mzui, Thursday, 27 May 2004 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link
Unfortunately it's comments like these which make "the folk who live there" into racists.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 27 May 2004 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link
The procurator-fiscal's office in Glasgow is now studying the leaflets.
The BNP said it was free to distribute what it claimed was factual material and argued that there was nothing in the literature which broke the law.
The BNP, like many political parties, is distributing election material across Scotland in the run-up to the European elections on 10 June.
Examining material
The Glasgow charity, Positive Action in Housing, said it had received 55 complaints about the leaflets, which show a Union Flag being burnt by men of Arab extraction above claims of an "asylum time bomb".
Strathclyde Police said they had brought the matter to the attention of the procurator fiscal, who is examining the material and considering an investigation.
It is thought that other fiscals in Scotland may soon follow suit.
Solicitor advocate Gerry Brown said that the leaflets could contravene laws on inciting racial hatred or simply cause such alarm or distress that they committed a breach the peace.
I think this is a total waste of police time and a big fuss about nothing
Steve BlakeBNP
He said: "I would have thought that with something as important as this - with the impact on local communities - it is almost certain that the procurator fiscal's office in Glasgow will refer the enquiries and reports to the Lord Advocate in Edinburgh."
One woman who received the leaflet told BBC Scotland: "I was almost too upset to read it. I was very shocked and felt it was an incitement to racial hatred."
The woman complained to her local mail sorting office who told her that, due to election communication, no-one could prevent the leaflet from being posted.
Kay Hampton, of the Commission for Racial Equality in Scotland, encouraged people to report to the police any materials which "appear to encourage racial hatred".
'Fear and anxiety'
She added: "Elections should be a time for the fullest debate of the issues faced by people across Scotland, but that debate should be informed by fact and directed towards solutions.
"It should not be an occasion for peddling prejudice and stirring up and exploiting fear and anxiety."
The BNP's Steve Blake said there was nothing in the leaflet which broke the law.
"I think this is a total waste of police time," he went on.
"The material was given the OK by our team of legal experts so to be honest, I think this is a big fuss about nothing.
"We are clear that we do not advocate any kind of violent attack on anybody simply because of who they are.
"The majority of people who are in the BNP and the vast majority of people who plan to vote for us, are law abiding, decent, hard-working British people."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3752615.stm
― Newshound, Thursday, 27 May 2004 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 27 May 2004 12:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 12:13 (nineteen years ago) link
P.S. Marcello OTM.
― CRW (CRW), Thursday, 27 May 2004 12:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 12:14 (nineteen years ago) link
... inside his head
― Collectible Spoons of the 3rd Reich (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 09:47 (fourteen years ago) link