― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Monday, 28 June 2004 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link
but the info I got came from an article in Sat's paper here. (it was mostly about how Chandler Perry was going to be shooting a (different) movie here this summer.
― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway, we all know that there's no way in hell (no pun intended) that this movie's going to be good, right?
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link
Except for the fact that I might be in it. As an extra.
― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 June 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link
I want plenty of Cassidy and quite a bit of Herr Starr.
What storylines are they going to adapt?
― Michael Stuchbery (Mikey Bidness), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan I., Tuesday, 29 June 2004 03:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link
(Top Cow has tried to strategize things like this, which resulted in what, a lukewarm basic cable series and nothing else.)
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link
(When Marvel sold the Daredevil option, wasn't that in the same package with Ghost Rider, Punisher, Iron Man, et al? Or was that Dr Strange?)
I think the idea is that companies probably want to option several at a time if they don't have something specific in mind. Mind you, Catwoman befuddles the hell out of me, because why option that separately from Batman?
Teen Titans kind of killed my faith in their cartoons. I'm not sure that's fair -- I don't think it's a bad show necessarily, the two episodes I've seen; just one I really don't like. Either it doesn't have the same broad appeal as the other ones did, or I'm getting old :)
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link
Teen Titans is definitely aimed at a younger age group than the other cartoons, and I never really think about it in the same bundle as B:TAS, S:TAS and JL (or JLU). It's sort of off in its own kiddyverse.
― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link
(I saw it, it wasn't good but there have been worse.)
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link
(Jay Underwood = Human Torch in shelved Roger-Corman-produced FF flick.)
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huck, Monday, 30 August 2004 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link
Odd:http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=23535
― chap, Friday, 31 October 2008 13:56 (fifteen years ago) link
emotional and psychological complexity - which Preacher has in spades
!!!
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 31 October 2008 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link
It'll also make a nice change for him, after his most recent movie, the 50s-set drama, Revolutionary Road. This one has considerably more action - and people with faces like an arse.
― James Morrison, Sunday, 2 November 2008 05:34 (fifteen years ago) link
AMC now developing Preacher for TV.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Friday, 7 February 2014 19:41 (ten years ago) link
Can't say 'fuck' on AMC. Might be a stumbling block.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 8 February 2014 01:32 (ten years ago) link
brba got 1 fuck a season
― Hungry4Ass, Saturday, 8 February 2014 02:18 (ten years ago) link
bleeped tho
Or Blurred.
http://needcoffee.cachefly.net/needcoffee/uploads/2009/01/fuck-communism-lighter.jpg
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 8 February 2014 02:37 (ten years ago) link
Shooting in Regina (where I live) this summer with a budget of $15 million.will post more when I learn more.
lol
― (D1CK$) (sic), Saturday, 8 February 2014 08:38 (ten years ago) link
ugh seth rogan adaptation, no thank you
― PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 February 2014 05:38 (ten years ago) link
i mean whatever, he might be the right person for this but i guess the person i am now is not the right person to watch it.
― PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 February 2014 05:39 (ten years ago) link
he's not writing it though. do you hate Catlin's episodes of Breaking Bad?
― (D1CK$) (sic), Sunday, 9 February 2014 07:00 (ten years ago) link
Which ones are they?
― PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 February 2014 07:23 (ten years ago) link
s2e4, "Down"s2e9, "4 Days Out"s3e4, "Green Light"s3e10, "Fly"s3e12, "Half-Measures"s4e3, "Open House"s4e8, "Hermanos"s4e11, "Crawl Space"s5e4, "Fifty-One"s5e12, "Rabid Dog" (also directed)
― Clay, Sunday, 9 February 2014 10:19 (ten years ago) link
yeah, that's good stuff. i am torn now.
― PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 February 2014 17:53 (ten years ago) link
Arseface was portrayed fairly sympathetically in the comic, iirc. I remember him being one of the only decent people in that universe.
― Corn Elephant, Jr. (Old Lunch), Monday, 23 May 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link
I think I ultimately wound up pretty strongly disliking the core cast. I doubt that was intentional.
― Corn Elephant, Jr. (Old Lunch), Monday, 23 May 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link
Preacher worked best as a serial comic entertainment, delivered on a monthly basis by a very reliable artist - one issue a month just about the right ration. I gave up reading before the end, but the impression I had was that the ending was not universally loved, even by fans of the comic?
― Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Monday, 23 May 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link
I don't know that I was ever that much of a fan, actually (mostly just way into Vertigo at the time, although I should've followed my instincts after lamenting when Ennis took over Hellblazer), but I did read the whole thing. Don't remember the ending much but I don't remember anything positive about it.
― Corn Elephant, Jr. (Old Lunch), Monday, 23 May 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link
i have the full series on my shelf somewhere, i suppose i should reacquaint
― ulysses, Monday, 23 May 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link
Ennis's "fuck everything" misanthropy seems very juvenile now, doesn't it.
He's definitely juvenile, but I'd hardly class Ennis as misanthropic. If anything he's a sentimentalist
― Number None, Monday, 23 May 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
masculinist sentimentalist methinks
― ulysses, Monday, 23 May 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link
first ep was okay, probably better than I was expecting (genuine lols at 'tom cruise explodes') although cooper's accent was even worse than i feared it would be. he's too old and pug-faced for jesse but i liked tulip and cassidy fine
best thing was the opening scene in outer space with the b-movie fx
i'll stick around for a few episodes but i guess the real acid test will be how they handle the more classically ennis material
― (main prostitute from Game Of Thrones) (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 May 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link
I guess it's maybe an encouraging sign that Genesis merging with Jesse didn't kills his congregation at the same time
― (main prostitute from Game Of Thrones) (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 May 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link
He starts off as a nasty joke, but yeah, Ennis soon sets him up as a decent person, more decent than any of the protagonists. His story also has a much more positive conclusion you'd ever expect based on those early issues, and I definitely agree Ennis is a sentimentalist. Fespite his tendency to go for the yuck factor, ultimately most of his stories emphasize that there is fundamental goodness in (some) people, and most of his protagonists get a happy ending, of a sort at least.
If you can live with Ennis' gross-out excesses, I'd still recommend reading The Boys, his other creator-owned magnum opus besides Preacher. It has a lot of the same strengths as Preacher (some actually funny gags, solid characterization, good sense of pacing and drama) + a lot of strong satire on superheroes and the military-industrial complex, but it significantly tones down his worst tendencies, i.e. the sexism and homophobia. It's still reconizably Ennis, so if his tics generally annoy you, they will do so with The Boys too, but I was positively surprised by it.
― Tuomas, Monday, 23 May 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link
mainly i'm just morbidly curious to see them adapt the bill hicks issue
― (main prostitute from Game Of Thrones) (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 May 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link
Never been able to get past the terrible artwork on The Boys
― Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 06:20 (seven years ago) link
I think Darick Robertson is a decent artist, and his cartoonish style is certainly a good match for Ennis' writing style... But the digital colouring and the "3D" shading on the comic is awfully ugly and brown-tinted, which makes Robertson's art look worse too.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 11:13 (seven years ago) link
The Irish stereotype guy in this is pretty broad isn't he? Is that guy actually northern english, mancunian or something? Geezer who's been in Misfits etc?
Am wondering if they'll include Jesse's John Wayne fixation or if it'd mean touching on copyright issues or something.
Did quite enjoy this so will probably watch the rest.
Also really enjoyed The Boys a couple of years back. I guess roughly when it was coming out really.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link
xp agreed, i never liked the coloring on that book, you just nailed it for me - I wasn't sure it what it was...
If they do the John Wayne thing the way they did it in the book (in shadow) I'm sure they can get away with it as parody. Bill Hicks thing I'm less sure...
― Nhex, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link
turns out Rogen and Goldberg are developing a TV version of The Boys too
― Number None, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
I just realized that Ennis is basically a way less self-aware Johnny Ryan.
― Wet Food (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link
issue #1 of preacher going for northwards of £200 on ebay at the mo.
(the amc-branded reissue is free on comixology, or 69p for the vertigo version.)
haven't re-read this since it was published. time to dig it out again?
― koogs, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link
Ennis is pretty self-aware, imho. He's just happy where he is.
I'd imagine there is precisely zero chance of them doing the Bill Hicks episode, it must've be first on any list of compromises.
(I'm actually curious about how widely known John Wayne is with younger generation)
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 10:26 (seven years ago) link
I didn't see any of the angels introduced yet so wonder to what extent they're going to be used. Prior containment for this thing that has arrived on earth from somewhere in space appears to be handled very differently in the comics. But maybe the tv narrative needs the earthly participants introduced first or something.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 15:35 (seven years ago) link
Considering quite a bit of Preacher is flasbacks, I can see why they are changing it up a bit for the show.
They are also interestingly enough making to more superhero considering Tulip's and Cassidys parts in the first show.
― earlnash, Thursday, 26 May 2016 14:44 (seven years ago) link
?
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 27 May 2016 14:08 (seven years ago) link
i just reread the first five issues; this book sucks
― ulysses, Friday, 27 May 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link
― earlnash, Thursday, May 26, 2016 3:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm assuming this relates to Tulip being introduced as a bungling would be assassin in the comic book who leaps into Cassidy's pick up truck and tries to jack it off him which he refuses.& the tv show has him being introduced having a Bond -like fight on a plane, though a bit more gorey, and her having a fight in a speeding vehicle displaying all kinds of martial arts skills or whatever.
But it is a different medium and does have its own way of showing narrative which maybe this taps into more. I dunno. Quite enjoyed it anyway.
― Stevolende, Friday, 27 May 2016 15:16 (seven years ago) link
I enjoyed it! A more comedic tone than the comic, and seemed much more willing to laugh at its protagonists, which can only be a good thing. Remains to be seen how well/if it deals with the more epic storylines coming up.
Re accents - I'm as English as they come so am probably not the best judge, but I thought Joe Gilgun's Cork brogue was pretty convincing.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 27 May 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link
God Howard Stark's accent is so, so bad. Like, even worse than his Howard Stark accent - but at least he's not the main character in that show!
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 27 May 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link
Whatever Gilgin's doing, it ain't Cork boy
― Number None, Friday, 27 May 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link
I thought this was pretty good, even if it is the worst of the current batch of comics TV shows that isn't Arrow.
It did seem the plot threw itself about a bit but I guess television narrative style drives that.
― suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Saturday, 28 May 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link
Read the full series on a whim, definitely gonna try to sell it on ebay.First episode of this was pretty bad, i faded out after the gratuitous broken arm scene.
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 4 June 2016 06:01 (seven years ago) link
Does it hold up? I've never read it.
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 4 June 2016 12:03 (seven years ago) link
I re-read it nine or ten years ago, and it kind of doesn't, except that it didn't really at the time. A new reader might well be carried along by the characters and jokes and twists just as well as a '90s reader waiting month to month or TPB to TPB was, except without the accompanying investment letting them feel disappointed or cheated by a tangent or twist too far. Read it if you're interested, keep going if you like it, bail out if it loses you at some point.
― glandular lansbury (sic), Saturday, 4 June 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link
Positive things I have to say about Preacher based on my memory of reading it fifteen years ago or whatever:
1) I really like Steve Dillon's art.2) For better or worse, Odin Quincannon fucking the meat lady is an indelible image.3) Turning Herr Starr into a walking penis head was pretty good, as juvenile jokes go.
That's pretty much it.
― What's Your Definition of a Dirty Baby? (Old Lunch), Saturday, 4 June 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link
it doesn't "hold up" but it is a quick compulsive read if you skip over all the proselytizing. Last few issues are terrible.
― De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Saturday, 4 June 2016 15:35 (seven years ago) link
I don't think I managed to finish the first TPB.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 5 June 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
I read a lot of this series (at least the first five trades) in high school during my heavy Vertigo phase, and while I still like Steve Dillon's art, the writing definitely seems glib and ~edgy~ in a strained way that doesn't repay rereading.
― one way street, Sunday, 5 June 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link
so the main way they're trying to keep true to the comic is computer-colouring everything in '90s Vertigo shades of baby-shit brown and green
― glandular lansbury (sic), Monday, 6 June 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link
I.e. the most consistently-lamentable quality of '90s Vertigo.
― What's Your Definition of a Dirty Baby? (Old Lunch), Monday, 6 June 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link
on the plus side, a copy of preacher #1 sold on ebay for $250 over the weekend so ahma try to sell my whole collection asap
― De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link
Would that I had not sold my collection years ago. One man's trash...
― What's Your Definition of a Dirty Baby? (Old Lunch), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link
$150 bid for the collection (1 to 50 plus all the one shots and saint of killer mini in VF+/NM and the last two TPB), 4 days to go
― De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Thursday, 9 June 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link
nice. I sold all the one-shots & spinoffs years ago, gotta get my run of TPBs up
― glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:14 (seven years ago) link
I got 340 bucks for the full series btw, think i undersold but happy to have the room on my shelf.
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 18 June 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link
That seems like a good price. are old floppies like old vinyls now?
― Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Saturday, 18 June 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
Wow. I'm not sure what I have in the way of the spin offs but certainly have the original 60 odd issues. Not entirely sure where they are but...
― koogs, Saturday, 18 June 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link
Walking Dead number one is selling for thousands; there's a sudden surge on preacher insofar as if it becomes popular it's a CULTURAL TOUCHSTONEseems silly but happy to have it happen. Now what do I do with the other 5000 odd floppies? Do people want full runs of Howard the Duck anymore?
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Sunday, 19 June 2016 05:23 (seven years ago) link
Got the 9 volumes out the door for $130, very happy about that
Also stuck up Troubled Souls and For A Few Troubles More by Ennis & McCrea, which are at $50 and $45 respectively with 5 days to go
― glandular lansbury (sic), Monday, 4 July 2016 09:26 (seven years ago) link