Yo, any of you dudes into Gilbert Sorrentino?

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i posted that stuff to be a douchebag.


i didn't like Imaginative Qualities of Actual Things. it never really jelled for me as a novel. the entire time i read it, i thought to myself: He's making fun of all these NYC art people, but I feel like I need a concordance to figure out who is who. Eh.

Mulligan Stew was very very funny as I recall. . .but I read it last summer and I realize now I don't remember a thing about it except for a funny list of books and magazines on a character's shelf.

My favorite is The Sky Changes, a bleak, brutal travelogue, just totally sad and depressing and great.

I'm going to read Aberration of Starlight soon-ish here

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, you get the Imaginative Qualities, but not so much the Actual Things he's talking about. I think some of it parallels to what you find in NYC today, so I just filled it in with what I've experienced from that.

I'm reading Mulligan Stew right now and it's pretty fun so far.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

and I guess what I meant about "nobody talking about him" is that he seems lost in the shuffle of mid-late century experimental authors. Like, you get a million NPR-accented nitwits who rave about Perec's cunning lack of using the letter E (to write one of the worst narratives I've ever read), but Sorrentino, Matthews, etc., don't ring as much of a bell. It's probably just up to fashion.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link

mid-late century experimental authors

i see/read his name all the time as associated with this era

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link

oHHHHHH, it's probably just the people I encounter then. It just seemed like he wasn't as popular as a lot of others.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link

he defintely wasn't, he's a little lower on the radar i think but yeah.

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Matthews I don't know from, but Mathews gets mentioned fairly often.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Har har.

I'm pretty sure we have a Sorrentino thread somewhere in the archive.

Casuistry, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link

he's maybe a little lower on the radar in that his books tend to already assume a buncha knowledge that others don't - like mulligan stew assumes you know a buncha lamenesses about the 'postmodern novel', & imaginative qualities a buncha lamenesses about the fiction of the 50s-60s beats&hipsters

thomp, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 10:36 (fourteen years ago) link

hubert selby jr. credits sorrentino with teaching him how to write in at least one introduction � does it show? mebbe �

ILB has RIP gilbert sorrentino
RIP Gilbert Sorrentino.
ILE has the plainer thread
Gilbert Sorrentino

thomp, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 10:38 (fourteen years ago) link

huh chris for some reason i thought you were a fan of mulligan stew

thomp, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 10:39 (fourteen years ago) link

You'd think, right?

Casuistry, Thursday, 1 May 2008 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link

We've done this before.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 2 May 2008 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Does that make it suitably Sorrentinian?

Casuistry, Friday, 2 May 2008 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link


James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 2 May 2008 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I didn't know that the Dalkey Archive had a street team.

C0L1N B..., Saturday, 3 May 2008 03:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I didn't take advantage of that ridiculous 100 books for $500 deal they had at one point, or whatever it was, if that's what you're saying.

Casuistry, Saturday, 3 May 2008 04:42 (fourteen years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

I just came across Imaginative Qualities of Real Things on a booklist I was looking at. Thought it looked interesting so I was just thinking of ordering it as an Interlibrary loan. It's not a quick read then?

Stevolende, Friday, 28 January 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link

Someone said that upthread? Oh I see. No you can read it pretty quickly. I know I did.

Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 January 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link

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