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After she broke down on stage in new york and cancelled the show, all I could think was "fiona is so punk rock." It just isn't something you would expect from a young female soloist, but if it had been johnny rotten, people wouldn't have looked twice. She rules because she doesn't give a shit about the industries rules. The same thing goes for the speech at the mtv video awards. Come on, isn't that what every one of us who is disgusted with the fascist state of things in pop music has always wanted to say? "This world is bullshit." Yeah, it was a little incoherent, but I knew then whose side she was really on. And her lyrics are amazing. :)

cristi, Wednesday, 9 October 2002 15:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Come on, isn't that what every one of us who is disgusted with the
fascist state of things in pop music has always wanted to say?

Context is all. And in her case, it didn't help.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 17:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

cristi is talking bollocks- bittting the hand that feeds you is definetely no good whatsoever.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 18:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

i am a huge fan of fionas. her lyrics are great yes, and the playing on both those albums is excellent.
looking forward to her next output.!
norah jones? hardly close.

donna (donna), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 18:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

TIDAL is wonderful. However, she is one of those performers -- like Sinead before her -- from whom the microphone should really be kept far away when she's not singing, as she has a tremendous propensity to say outlandish and thoroughly embarassing shit.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 19:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Fiona Apple: a demented, pasty-skinned stick figure who channels the tormented, disembodied soul of Billie Holliday. And if you put shoe polish in her hair, she'd make one hell of a goth chick.
And, no, I mean all this as a compliment.

Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 19:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

I haven't hear much of When the Pawn..., but I liked Tidal, and probably still do. Her voice is rich and expressive--and I think altos tend to sound more powerful anyway. True, she's whiny and brash, but her music skates a nice line, never as transparent as far too female vocalists. And besides, P.T. Anderson sees something in her.

Steph (Steph), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 20:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

oops, "far too many female vocalists"

Steph (Steph), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 20:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Hitting the hand that feeds you" is pure human nature. Contradiction is a fundamental part of life, I think. To fear it makes you susceptible to, well, lots of dark things. Sure fiona apple is full of contradiction and doesn't always say the most beautiful things, but she is anything but afraid of that fact. In rolling stone she said something like, "As soon as I'm not singing the songs I don't know how to act. But I would rather not be contrived, even if it makes me looks better." I just have to respect that, especially in this day and age. At least I know apple will never leave me disillusioned. For instance, was anyone else totally put off by the videos from bjork’s vespertine? God, that’s a whole other thread I think.

cristi, Saturday, 12 October 2002 01:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

oh julio, I'm sorry for not getting your quote right! "Bittting the hand that feeds you," that's better. :)

cristi, Saturday, 12 October 2002 01:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

well surely it's a better thing if she released her stuff through her own label say. but of course, i doubt she would have been invited to any bloody awards ceremonies!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 12 October 2002 19:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

five years pass...

"Shadowboxer" <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Tape Store, Thursday, 10 April 2008 05:17 (sixteen years ago) link

ya

Surmounter, Thursday, 10 April 2008 05:35 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

"Paper Bag" <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

ben folds' cover of "such great heights" (Tape Store), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 05:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Indeed.

Turangalila, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 05:34 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

entirety of when the pawn <3

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link

str8 men really didn't like her, huh

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link

"she's crazy! she's embarrassing! she's juvenile!" looooool

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:44 (thirteen years ago) link

anyway, bumped b/c maura drew my attention to this: http://twitter.com/realfionaapple

which isn't verified but promises a new album this spring!

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link

also goddamn if "get him back" isn't a perfectly constructed pop song

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link

str8 men really didn't like her, huh

― lex pretend, Thursday, February 24, 2011 12:43 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

I like that one song with the fast bits and the slow bits.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link

She's working with Charley Drayton on the new songs is all I know so far. No news of Jon Brion working w/ her.

We make bouquets that fade immediately. (Turangalila), Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Though she did play a surprise show with Brion few weeks ago at Largo.

We make bouquets that fade immediately. (Turangalila), Thursday, 24 February 2011 13:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Feel like she and Brion should do a parody of that duo that is changing the face of youtube etc, since the guy does a manic, OCD version of what Brion does.

Roger "Destroyer" Kaputtnik (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 February 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I've always liked her. She probably is still in my all-time WS.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 24 February 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/fiona-apple-unveils-23-word-album-title-20120307

Fiona Apple has revealed that her long-delayed fourth album will be titled The Idler Wheel Is Wiser Than the Driver of the Screw, and Whipping Cords Will Serve You More Than Ropes Will Ever Do.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:19 (twelve years ago) link

Cutting back, imho. I hope this album is as good as When the pawn hits the conflicts he thinks like a king, What he knows throws the blows when he goes to the fight, And he'll win the whole thing 'fore he enters the ring, There's no body to batter when your mind is your might, So when you go solo, you hold your own hand, And remember that depth is the greatest of heights, And if you know where you stand, then you know where to land, And if you fall it won't matter, cause you'll know that you're right though.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

LOL never change fiona

i'm actually super-hyped for this

lex pretend, Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link

otm I am too, actually.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 March 2012 03:18 (twelve years ago) link

Stoked

Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 8 March 2012 11:59 (twelve years ago) link

I want to be excited but I'm mostly skeptical. 2nd version of EM was a disaster - she kinda needs Brion, imo.

Turangalila, Thursday, 8 March 2012 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

I saw her on that tour with Nickel Creek, and I was really impressed how well she fared in a different musical environment. Though I guess Nickel Creek are Brion adjuncts, too.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 March 2012 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

I am excited about this. Also I have a massive crush on Fiona.

owenf, Thursday, 8 March 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

Still go back to "Paper Bag" a lot, and if we ever do a massive music video ballot poll, I'm voting for it.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Friday, 16 March 2012 06:17 (twelve years ago) link

I hardly think the second version of EM was a disaster. It's different, is all.

I hope this album will be great.

akm, Friday, 16 March 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

It might be. The new songs sound great.

Turangalila, Saturday, 7 April 2012 05:07 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://soundcloud.com/fionaapple/every-single-night

Turangalila, Monday, 23 April 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

is that song good? i can't tell.

caulk the wagon and float it, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

Even if you don't generally listen to WTF, Fiona Apple is the guest today and it's probably the most candid no big deal interview she's ever given (or that I've read or heard). Cool to hear.

http://wtfpod.libsyn.com/webpage/episode-297-fiona-apple

Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 July 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

Breaking the law, breaking the law...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

Fiona Apple Bong

stURGEON & musKEY (how's life), Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

loool

Roz, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

she does not look good on that photo. that must have been before the joint...

alex in mainhattan, Thursday, 20 September 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

i hear the sound of a thousand local tv anchors trying out their "she doesn't just feel like a criminal anymore ..." gags.

tylerw, Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

why are people still driving their tour buses through that county? i realize Texas is huge and its probably a huge pain in the ass detour to get around it, but c'mon celebs, if you have the weed its going to get found in that place.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

You answered your own question. They still drive tour buses through their because it's on I-10, the main artery of that part of the state. Any sideways entrances are not to be trusted.

The real SMDH thing about this is they were headed to AUSTIN. How hard would it have been to just dump what they had in El Paso or something? If you can't get weed/hash in upon arrival in Austin you simply are not trying at all.

That Austin date has now been postponed btw.

Instagrams of Lily on My Facebook Wall (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 20 September 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

Okay, looking at the map now, they could have picked up State 62/180 in El Paso and taken it to Carlsbad, then hung a right on 285 to head southeast to Fort Stockton were they could have resumed traveling on I-10. That probably would have added a couple hours to the trip tho.

Instagrams of Lily on My Facebook Wall (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 20 September 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

guys, they were all high on the pot, they weren't thinking straight

tylerw, Thursday, 20 September 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

"Now, most of the people were very nice to me. There are four of you out there, and I want you to know that I heard everything you did. I wrote it all down with your names and everything you did and said stupidly thinking that I couldn't hear or see you. I then ripped the paper up, but not before I encoded it and-- I got two lock boxes. We'll call them "holding cell one" and "holding cell two". In "holding cell one" is the encoded version of the shit that you did that I know was inappropriate and probably illegal. In "holding cell two" is the decoder. I'm the only one who holds the key, and you and I will be intimate forever because I will hold that secret forever. Unless of course the celebrity that you had so much interest in but you wanted to accuse me of bringing up while you laughed at me all night? Unless you're interested in being a celebrity, I'll make you fucking famous any time you ask and I'll open those boxes. So why don't you stay in your fucking holding cell?"

WTF?

nostormo, Sunday, 23 September 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

That's the title of her next album.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 September 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

wonderful news!

devvvine, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

She signed her email with a balloon emoji.

fiona confirmed busy signal fan

devvvine, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

The part when she gives an update to her “world is bullshit” quote is great

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

"Fiona Lone" ;_;

Great interview, and good news about a new album!

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

come for the dog, stay for the bonus anecdote about marveling at J.Lo's ass

Simon H., Wednesday, 25 September 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

fantastic interview and hopefully that new album will indeed be done soon

she's the best

ufo, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

Loved the interview, and it got me to revisit Idler Wheel. Every single fucking song on this album, guys.

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Sunday, 29 September 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link

the further away we get from 2012 the more i'm convinced it's an unparalleled masterpiece

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 30 September 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link

"werewolf" is the realest song ever written

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 30 September 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

but brad, get this: if i'm butter. . . if I'M butter.

well, if that's the case, he's a hot knife, my friend.

(totally agreed btw; album slays. it's like the perfectly realized child of kate bush's 80s albums.)

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 30 September 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

The great thing about the “If I’m butter, if I’m butter, then he’s a hot knife” line is that it’s just Fiona playing coy - she makes it clear in the background harmonies that she’s the one in control: “I’m a hot knife, I’m a hot knife, he’s a pat of butter.”

Best song.

Roz, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 03:42 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89DxrWX1v3w

Fiona Apple covering The Waterboys' 'The Whole of the Moon'. Fuck yes.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 4 November 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

The Big Apple.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 November 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link

otm

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 4 November 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

*very* into this

borntohula, Monday, 4 November 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

fuck yes

devvvine, Monday, 4 November 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

that is incredible, and her voice is getting better and better with age.

akm, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 03:59 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

i'm really glad she's apparently pushing the percussion-driven sound of the idler wheel even further

ufo, Monday, 16 March 2020 22:16 (four years ago) link

“Every addict should just get locked in a private movie theatre with Q.T. and P.T.A. on coke, and they’ll never want to do it again.”

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 02:30 (four years ago) link

Found that article a bit of a disappointing, though I am psyched for another FA record, and also that she's leaning into the percussion stuff from Idler Wheel.

In particular, the TV-journalist-writes-about-music bits.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 06:57 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

She's an extraordinary machine. Happy birthday!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 September 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Incredible performance, I could have posted it on the 'ambushed by unexpected emotion' thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNy4tmTRQC8

neith moon (ledge), Thursday, 5 November 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.vulture.com/2020/12/fiona-apple-dr-luke-grammy-bullshit.html

Fiona Apple has never held back when it comes to calling out the music industry, famously saying “This world is bullshit” during an acceptance speech at the 1997 VMAs. Now she has turned her attention to the 2021 Grammys, where she’s nominated for three awards off her wildly acclaimed album Fetch the Bolt Cutters. In a new interview with the Guardian published today, Apple criticized the Recording Academy for giving Dr. Luke his first nomination since Kesha accused him of sexual abuse (which he denies). “Not to go back to that word, but it’s bullshit,” she said. Dr. Luke is nominated for Record of the Year as a producer on Doja Cat’s “Say So” under the pseudonym Tyson Trax. “I keep going back to them putting Kesha onstage like, ‘We believe you’ — and I believe her — then two years later, fucking Tyson Trax,” she added, referencing Kesha’s performance of “Praying” at the 2018 awards.

Apple also addressed Deborah Dugan’s firing as president and CEO of the Recording Academy, which reportedly came after Dugan uncovered a culture of sexism in the organization. “There’s a lot of things that she brought up that make it so that I can’t vet that situation, and I don’t really wanna go there and support it,” Apple told the Guardian. Apple previously criticized Neil Portnow, the Academy’s chief before Dugan, for his 2018 comments that women needed to “step up” for awards nominations by wearing a “Kneel, Portnow” T-shirt during a performance. Apple also spoke about being part of a slate of all women nominated for Best Rock Performance. She said, after hearing the news, she wanted to make a T-shirt with the names of all the nominees to wear for her weekly Tumblr selfie, before deciding against it. “I felt like this is exactly what they want me to do: It’s better now! I got nominated! And it’s all women this year and the Grammys are great!” she said. Apple went on to describe how if she won the award, she “would just get up there with a sledgehammer and I wouldn’t say anything. I would take the Grammy and smash it into enough pieces to share, and I would invite all the ladies up” — although, she also wondered if she could convince the slate of nominees to “boycott this shit because of Dr Luke.”

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 December 2020 22:31 (three years ago) link

Artists and labels seems happy to work with Dr. Luke. It's one thing to press the Grammys to clean up their act, but another to press them to serve as the conscience of the industry somehow?

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Friday, 18 December 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link

I have to say I have seldom felt older than I do reading a generation of kids born after "this world is bullshit" saying things like "wow she took on the Grammys they're going to snub her now!"

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 18 December 2020 22:45 (three years ago) link

good for her. fuck the grammies.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 19 December 2020 00:21 (three years ago) link

Easy to say when you’re 3x nominated. They obviously mean a lot to other artists (including artists complaining they were snubbed this year).

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Saturday, 19 December 2020 00:31 (three years ago) link

lol come on, everyone knows the grammys are bullshit and have been forever, and the artists who were complaining about being snubbed are all enormously successful enough that they hardly need the extra validation of a grammy anyway

ufo, Saturday, 19 December 2020 00:51 (three years ago) link

If it’s ok for the validation to be meaningful to an up-and-coming artist, it should be ok for it to be meaningful to an artist who doesn’t need the career boost. Unless you think it’s all the Benjamins or whatever.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Saturday, 19 December 2020 00:59 (three years ago) link

(not being an artist myself, I take it at face value when artists say they feel pride & validation at winning industry awards, and do not appear to judge their success solely by their bank account or sales figures.)

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Saturday, 19 December 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link

it always kinda bums me out when people say they’re not artists, I think everybody should be artists and shouldn’t feel discouraged from expressing themselves and making stuff idk <3

brimstead, Saturday, 19 December 2020 01:55 (three years ago) link

haha - that’s what ppl with actual talent always say ;)

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Saturday, 19 December 2020 01:59 (three years ago) link

i think everyone would do a lot better if more of these "enormously successful" artists literally and figuratively stomped on the grammies. fiona grabbing nominations and still doubling down on calling them out is absolutely brilliant, but i wouldn't expect anything less from her.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 19 December 2020 06:14 (three years ago) link

grammy awards = more sales, so that's why people get salty about this shit. "respect of your peers" isn't half as important as a beach house in cabo

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 19 December 2020 06:20 (three years ago) link

some eye-wateringly toxic takes at the start of this thread

assert (MatthewK), Saturday, 19 December 2020 06:21 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

thanks to none of you for telling me that Fiona is covering Sharon Van Etten's "Love More" for the latter's 'Epic' documentary/concert

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 23:50 (three years ago) link

there's no way it'll live up to my expectations

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 23:55 (three years ago) link

and here it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhXd7YvCbgE

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 15 April 2021 03:17 (three years ago) link

The singer [ Fiona Apple] had never heard of Prince George’s County before helping with Gasping for Justice, but she has become one of the team’s most prolific court watchers, volunteering three times a week and helping lead a committee focused on maintaining virtual access....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/courtwatch-prince-georges/2021/04/08/dc63e064-2e96-11eb-bae0-50bb17126614_story.html

curmudgeon, Thursday, 15 April 2021 03:41 (three years ago) link

Thats cool - I wasn’t aware of court watchers. Sounds like a good thing for her to be helping with and drawing attn to (though I’m also glad she wasn’t the focus of this story).

Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Thursday, 15 April 2021 04:20 (three years ago) link

Yep

curmudgeon, Friday, 16 April 2021 15:21 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

The Big (Apple) Music

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

She's doing good work.

Fiona Apple has a story for you. And it’s incredible. Asked me to share.

She's become an avid, trained Court Watcher. Her observations helped people jailed pretrial file a civil rights lawsuit. Then came the retaliation. Shut off her access to court.

A video story in 8 parts: pic.twitter.com/uhpgOLWFS6

— Scott Hechinger (@ScottHech) October 24, 2022

Finally she's doing something good (sounds of angry booing audience of F A lovers)

| (Latham Green), Monday, 24 October 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link


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