For me "7" is the key album. Before that, they were a bit too fast and quirky. From "The Rise And Fall" onwards, they got more sophisticated but the production also got increasingly boring and they started to sound less like Madness.
"7" is where they managed to combine those two sides, still kind of "nutty", but at the same time more sophisticated with a larger number of minor key songs.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link
i guess i just hate 'benny bullfrog' and 'pac a mac' - 'when dawn arrives', 'the opium eaters' and 'day on the town' are astonishing tho, and 'grey day' of course.
― stevie, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link
'Benny Bullfrog' is one of my favourites from the album, a very typical Madness song I think.
― zeus, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link
'when dawn arrives', 'the opium eaters' and 'day on the town' are astonishing tho
i rarely do the ILM thing, but a loud OTM is needed for this statement.
― mark e, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link
so mine'll be the solitary vote for "mad not mad", then.
― grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
i love 'burning the boats'
― stevie, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 12:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― ILX System, Sunday, 30 September 2007 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― ILX System, Monday, 1 October 2007 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I always enjoyed "Mad Not Mad" most, esp. "Yesterday's Men".
― Morley Timmons, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 02:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Pleasantly surprised that their second best album won. I would have expected one of the two first ones to win.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link
weirdly, other than the lack of any love for Wonderful, this list is a perfect representation of my own Madness album rating.
― mark e, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 09:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, good result, though 'Keep Moving' is much better than 'Mad Not Mad' in my opinion.
― zeus, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 10:41 (fifteen years ago) link
hurrah! two votes for MNM. i can die happy.
― grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Keep Moving's a great album, maybe my second favourite of theirs.
― stevie, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 12:24 (fifteen years ago) link
a return to the style of Rise and Fall perhaps ?
― mark e, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link
so - anyone going,or went to the hackney shows where the band are playing the new album out in total with orchestra/stage settings etc (ie not just doing the party faves) ?
i get the feeling, (ok, hope), that they are going to be getting the big mojo/word magazine treatments with the release of this album.
from the youtube clips i've seen and heard, i'm still holding out for the possibility that they are pushing this towards the darker edges of their Rise And Fall style.
[awaits the kickback from dingbod about them all being fat old tories b*stards now]
― mark e, Thursday, 26 June 2008 10:24 (fourteen years ago) link
So will The Liberty of Norton Folgate' replace Rise and Fall in the bands catalogue as the ultimate moody/downbeat Madness album ?
The team up with Rhoda Darkar is very special.
― mark e, Friday, 1 May 2009 08:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, much better than this old fanboy expected. Negatives: a bit relentlessly midtempo throughout; choruses mostly take easy way out (not unheard of in older days, but not as ubiq).
But arrangements & production is spot on, and damn how good the Barson piano feels to hear. And the unexpected Bollywood (?) break in the title track is hilarious and also promising; I believe these guys could do londonworldmusic decently.
Amusing myself with guessing songwriting credits (bought from emusic, so I've no physical copy). Anyone got the answers?
― anatol_merklich, Thursday, 18 June 2009 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link
keep moving is a lot better than i ever remembered.
f*cking love the appearance of general public in victoria gardens which i have now realised is the lost madness gem
― mark e, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:19 (ten years ago) link
You know, I have a couple of Madness albums here I acquired quite cheaply a few years ago, and it's occurred to me that I haven't given any of them a real deep listen yet. Must rectify that.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:30 (ten years ago) link
i totally agree re the result of this poll : R&F is by far the best Madness album.however .. the cover.it is somewhat troublesome.
― mark e, Thursday, 25 March 2021 23:39 (one year ago) link
I keep flipping between R&F and Keep Moving.
― anecdotal certainly but not nothing (stevie), Friday, 26 March 2021 10:00 (one year ago) link
I assume you refer to the brownface in particular, mark? That indeed looks quite off now, even (or especially?) considering that all the figures are intended as stereotypes of sorts. The corresponding song is also a bit, uh, "hey I went to India and I hated it".
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 26 March 2021 19:51 (one year ago) link
They're back with a so-so live record. But after a quick listen -- Norton Folgate is still incredible (and underappreciated?).
The succeding albums are okay, but "Never Knew Her Name" is an incredible lost track
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 14:51 (two months ago) link
I need to check out Rise and Fall. I've got the Complete and Utter compilations and they're excellent collections, but I would like to give their albums another chance.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 23 November 2022 15:30 (two months ago) link
How Can I Tell You and Powder Blue off Oui Oui are both fantastic songs as well. They're on the studio working on a new album right now. Norton Folgate is a stupidly brilliant record - vinyl reissue on the horizon.
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 15:36 (two months ago) link
IMHO Rise & Fall and Keep Moving are their best albums (maybe Norton Folgate is their equal too).
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Wednesday, 23 November 2022 15:37 (two months ago) link
But you can't fuck with any of the first run tbh