George Harrison - "All Things Must Pass"

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waiting for the disciples of christgau to shit all over this.....

timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 28 October 2006 03:05 (seventeen years ago) link

You know what track I recommend listening to? "Awaiting on You All." Tell me that is not some classic Phil Spector shit.

Also, "What Is Life" on the car radio earlier today (coincidentally!) - what a tight blast.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 28 October 2006 03:38 (seventeen years ago) link

waiting for the disciples of christgau to shit all over this.....

Unfortunately, they're busy climbing up Mount Doom trying to destroy the Ring...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 28 October 2006 03:39 (seventeen years ago) link

my fave is "Eatin' Scrapple in the Big Apple"

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 28 October 2006 04:06 (seventeen years ago) link

(Tell me that is not some classic Phil Spector shit.

i saw today that union square virgin is selling back to mono right now for $19.99!

i really should have snatched that up.)

poortheatre (poortheatre), Saturday, 28 October 2006 06:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, Ellison is correct. "Awaiting On You All" is a real highlight of this album. Now I remember the song he means. I played that while DJing once. I have no idea if anyone got it.

An evening of fun in the metropolis of your dream (Bimble...), Saturday, 28 October 2006 07:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Apple Scruffs notwithstanding...

An evening of fun in the metropolis of your dream (Bimble...), Saturday, 28 October 2006 07:00 (seventeen years ago) link

"Behind That Locked Door" is maybe my favorite song my him. I love this album.

gaseous (gaseous), Saturday, 28 October 2006 08:53 (seventeen years ago) link

"Apple Scruffs," "Behind That Closed Door," and (especially) "What is Life" almost compensate for "Wah-Wah" and two versions of the interminable "Isn't it a Pity." Oh, and George's "If Not For You" is better than Bob's (great guitarist vs great singer). That's that.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 28 October 2006 12:09 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha, I love "Wah-Wah"! I just love the sound of it.

Now I have to play this record. Not a bad way to start a Saturday morning, though.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 28 October 2006 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

"Behind that Locked Door" is supposedly about Dylan.

There' a great widely didstibuted bootleg of Harrison's solo acoustic demos of many of the songs on ATMP called "Beware of Abkco" that's wonderful and worth seeking out.

shookout (shookout), Saturday, 28 October 2006 13:02 (seventeen years ago) link

wah wah is good. the whole record is good except for the jam stuff.

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 28 October 2006 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

After 20 years of listening to this record, sometimes obsessively, I stil maintain it's the best solo album by a Beatle. And if he never bothered with the third jam LP, I bet no one would argue.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Saturday, 28 October 2006 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

No! Thou shalt not diss Wah Wah! It's not often that a song seems to give the impression of crying so well. In fact, I think it'd have to be Neil Young's guitar on a live version of "Cortez The Killer" to even match that as far as crying in music goes.

An evening of fun in the metropolis of your dream (Bimble...), Saturday, 28 October 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

And the thing is I always pictured him singing that song to Lennon for some reason.

An evening of fun in the metropolis of your dream (Bimble...), Saturday, 28 October 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Harrison I mean of course, not Neil.

An evening of fun in the metropolis of your dream (Bimble...), Saturday, 28 October 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't have the CD...but the first three records of this are super amazing. and the fourth record might be the biggest piece of shit i own! worst. jams. ever.*


*with the excecption of that deleted scene jam they put on the new DVD of the last waltz. yucky.

M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 28 October 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a 4LP version? I believe the original was 3 LPs, two of songs and one of jams.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 28 October 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

He's singing Wah Wah at Paul I believe.

great hidden lyric in "Awaiting On You All " which is not included in the liner notes :

"The pope owns 51 percent of General Motors. The stock exchange is the only thing he's qualified to quote us. "

Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Saturday, 28 October 2006 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a 4LP version? I believe the original was 3 LPs, two of songs and one of jams.

yo..i might be confused! i'll double check when i get home.

M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 28 October 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

He's singing Wah Wah at Paul I believe.

I've never heard this. What is the implication - that Paul should stop crying about something?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 28 October 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

supposedly it was written during the time that george quit the 'let it be/ get back' sessions.
y'know after the weird passive/agressive argument with paul as seen in the l.i.b. film.

Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Saturday, 28 October 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Donald Barthelme drops a reference to "Wah Wah" in one of his short stories. Now that's respect...

opalescent arcs (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 28 October 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I've read the same thing about Wah Wah. I think George is using the guitar pedal as a metaphor for musical scraps that McCartney had given Harrison.

Wah-wah
You've given me a wah-wah
And Im thinking of you
And all the things that we used to do
Wah-wah, wah-wah

Wah-wah
You made me such a big star
Being there at the right time
Cheaper than a dime
Wah-wah, youve given me your wah-wah, wah-wah

Oh, you dont see me crying
Oh, you dont hear me sighing

Wah-wah
I dont need no wah-wah
And I know how sweet life can be
If I keep myself free from the wah-wah
I dont need no wah-wah

Oh, you dont see me crying
Hey baby, you dont hear me sighing
Oh, no no-no no

Wah-wah
Now I dont need no wah-wahs
And I know how sweet life can be
If I keep myself free - of wah-wah
I dont need no wah-wah

darin (darin), Saturday, 28 October 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

A great album that has gained a lot from the great remaster job.

However, they should have stopped at the double album back then. The third album consists of completely pointless jams that drag the entire album considerably down.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 October 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Definitely the best of the post-Beatles solo stuff. Agree with everyone about how great "Wah-wah" is and how bad the jam is.

vartman (novaheat), Sunday, 29 October 2006 04:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I missed my chance to get in at fourth post and say "Sweet Lord Sotosyn, we don't need your 'Wah Wah'"

The Redd 47 Ronin (Ken L), Sunday, 29 October 2006 05:23 (seventeen years ago) link

The best post-Beatles solo albums were "Tug Of War", "Pipes Of Peace" and "Chaos And Creation In The Backyard". It wouldn't even consider it Harrison's best solo album ("Cloud Nine" is better), but "All Things Must Pass" is still great, and better than anything John Lennon ever did as a solo act.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 30 October 2006 10:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Pipes of Peace is about the fortieth best solo Beatle album, i.e., one of the worst. Cloud Nine had weaker material than the four Dark Horse albums that preceded it but I guess people liked it because it had Jeff Lynne and Eric Clapton and Ringo playing on it instead of the alleged hacks (like, you know, Willie Weeks and Billy Preston) who played on the others.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 30 October 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

who liked Cloud Nine besides Rolling Stone, I wonder? ("Geir" is not an answer.)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 30 October 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Me!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 30 October 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

ELO fans?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 30 October 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeff Lynne's sound makes me a little queasy.

pj (Henry), Monday, 30 October 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Seems to me I've seen the take that Cloud Nine was a significant comeback album (i.e., not just in the sense that he hadn't made an album in five years) a lot over the years. AMG's got:

33 1/3 - 3 stars
s/t '79 album - 4 stars
Somewhere in England - 3 1/2 stars
Gone Troppo - 1 star : (
Cloud Nine - 4 1/2 stars

Well, at least there's some credit for the late '70s/early '80s stuff there.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 30 October 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

("Geir" is not an answer.)

This should be in the FAQ. I've never disagreed so much with someone who hadn't just pissed his clothes.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Monday, 30 October 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

"The pope owns 51 percent of General Motors. The stock exchange is the only thing he's qualified to quote us. "

!! I have always wondered what this fucking verse is! Easily my favorite song on the album.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 October 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Am I the only one who prefers the "Jams" over the rest of the album?

xpost well maybe cause I owned a copy of only album three of this, back whenever, and got a cheapie HMV sale copy of the new remastered CD set more recently.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 30 October 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I like some of the jamz I'll admit it.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 October 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

The jams are nice enough in the background. I wonder how the album's flow/feel would change with them strewn among the songs instead of sequestered at the end.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Monday, 30 October 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

well, it was a "significant comeback album" in that it sold a lot and spawned a No. 1 single. I guess it got decent reviews at the time, but I don't know if that makes it a critical hit, per se.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 30 October 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't know how big a critical hit it was either - I'm just saying I've often seen it characterized as an artistic comeback.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 30 October 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Fair enough; you've read more about it than I have, probably.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 30 October 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

The meme then and now is "Best album since All Things Must Pass." I know it got a good RS review, but what else is new. This and the Wilburys album released in late '88 did a lot to revive Harrison's reptuation; suddenly he had a sense of humor! he can write other kinds of songs besides windy, badly sung Krishna rants!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 30 October 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

The meme then and now is "Best album since All Things Must Pass."

isn't that more or less the official line on every solo album every beatle has ever released?

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 30 October 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

suddenly he had a sense of humor!

Hi dere: http://web.mit.edu/scholvin/www/harrison/gifs/c310_00.jpg

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 30 October 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

This is the guy whose John Lennon tribute song had silly synthesizer parts and doo wop background vocals.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 30 October 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

KNEE-SLAPPING

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm.. I must have written something wrong here. "Pipes Of Peace" is obviously not among the best of anything at all. I meant "Flowers In The Dirt".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

who liked Cloud Nine besides Rolling Stone, I wonder?

Lots of people, obviously, judging from the fact that it was his most popular solo album since the first two.

And, yes, ELO fans were among then, and ELO fans usually know good music when they hear it. That is why they are ELO fans.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

"Good times drinking on me bottle"

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

christgau in dickhead shocker
― gear

buzza, Saturday, 5 January 2013 03:01 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

Recently got a very good copy of this box set incl. a very cool and very dark poster that I'm considering framing.

http://i.imgur.com/UZGwUMk.jpg

Great record and all, but I can't help being slightly "annoyed" with the box set format - it seems like it will get a lot of wear from being opened, from me trying to flip the records out etc. I like the new Dylan Bootleg boxes for having open constructions, makes for easy access to the discs. Uhm anyway, so what are your thoughts - are those boxes annoying or what?

niels, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 10:15 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

according to the Then Play Long link above, there is *re-done* guitar on the CD box reissue? is the original vinyl that different? was there a CD version released bitd that's considered better than the reissue? the updated packaging of the CD is fucking terrible compared to the original vinyl box i know that much.

piscesx, Friday, 30 October 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link

Lovely album.
the title track is so good.
it's also interesting to hear the rehearsing sessions with the Beatles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0IgO0So2BU

there are longer sessions recording where you hear McCartney working on the harmonies.
By the way, it always seemed strange to me the idea that McCartney was jealous or trying to put Harrison's tracks down since he seemed to be the one spending time and helping the most (bass on "Something", work on "I me mine", etc) while Lennon actually did seem to not care at all and not even attending some recording sessions.
Yet, it's McCartney that is attacked on some of the album's tracks while Harrison and Lennon remained close for a while after the Beatles' break up (and Harrison contributed to some tracks on "Imagine", and all).
Of course there were other issues but still, seems unfair to Macca !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 30 October 2015 10:37 (eight years ago) link

Also, funny thing : for a while, I only know the instrumental version of "What is life" since I had downloaded a version without the final version... it was so nice to finally discover the vocals !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 30 October 2015 10:39 (eight years ago) link

only knew

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 30 October 2015 10:39 (eight years ago) link

I know it's a demo but Harrison sounds awful on that version of ATMP.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 October 2015 10:47 (eight years ago) link

This demo is much, much better:

http://youtu.be/kmEqq3OSNpE

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 30 October 2015 16:59 (eight years ago) link

according to stevehoffman.tv folks, there is no good CD issue of All Things Must Pass

brimstead, Friday, 30 October 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

Yet, it's McCartney that is attacked on some of the album's tracks

McCartney supposedly repeatedly rebuffed Harrison's entreaties to write together. After "I'd Have You Anytime," George was all, "Oh, you won't write with me? OK, fine. But you know who will? BOB DYLAN."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 31 October 2015 01:09 (eight years ago) link

Paul started dropping real strong hints around the time of Cloud Nine and the first Wilburys album, no doubt b/c George was having hits again and he wasn't.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 October 2015 01:30 (eight years ago) link

according to stevehoffman.tv folks, there is no good CD issue of All Things Must Pass

Care to expound?

austinato (Austin), Saturday, 31 October 2015 01:44 (eight years ago) link

Interesting.

I worked at a used record shop around the time the "remastered and expanded" All Things Must Pass came out in 2000 and we were all very excited to hear it (obviously). So, we put it on and I was the only one that thought it sounded crap. Everyone else was all about it. Kind of ruined the album for me and I still don't own a copy to this day.

austinato (Austin), Saturday, 31 October 2015 03:06 (eight years ago) link

I've heard the same about the reissue and for that reason have always been happy to stick with my old issue of the CD in the two separate jewel cases.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 31 October 2015 03:15 (eight years ago) link

"according to stevehoffman.tv folks, there is no good CD issue of All Things Must Pass"

you can download the master steve hoffman did himself of ATMP which was never officially released, from torrent sites. He sold his single copy of the cd masters to this in some fundraising drive, which is pretty sneaky. never mention this on their boards or your question will be deleted by overzealous moderators.

akm, Saturday, 31 October 2015 22:30 (eight years ago) link

and yeah, second demo there is better, but it's not a beatles take, I don't think. is it?

akm, Saturday, 31 October 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link

No pretty sure it's solo.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 31 October 2015 23:19 (eight years ago) link

Y'know, it kinda pains me to say this in a way, but I honestly can't remember the last time I felt like listening to this album, even though it's undoubtedly one of Harrison's better solo albums.

Turrican, Sunday, 1 November 2015 01:11 (eight years ago) link

Really hoping the Harrison estate gets it together to release the 1974 Dark Horse/Hoarse tour. Apparently George used to screen footage of it for friends at Friar Park and did plan a film at some point.

But back on topic, I really like the extra track 'I Live for You" on the reissue.

Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 1 November 2015 11:37 (eight years ago) link

If its anything like the footage shown on the documentary thing, no.

Mark G, Sunday, 1 November 2015 12:44 (eight years ago) link

Can't be said enough how fucking awful that documentary was. Three-and-a-half hours long and it literally did not provide a single insight to me about the guy or his music.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 1 November 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link

to me this is not as rough as legend suggests but maybe i'm just blinded by the whole 'hey wow George Harrison playing live!' thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or1MWWWQ-Uw

i liked the doc but it tried to do a No Direction Home where the story was partly over-familiar and partly (the 2nd half) a bit boring.

piscesx, Sunday, 1 November 2015 14:02 (eight years ago) link

had no idea about this Steve Hoffman business

piscesx, Sunday, 1 November 2015 14:02 (eight years ago) link

Three-and-a-half hours long and it literally did not provide a single insight to me about the guy or his music.

Pretty sure that George would love that review - it'd appeal to his sense of the ridiculous.

Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 1 November 2015 14:20 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

His best. He had a few.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 March 2017 03:30 (seven years ago) link

A+ list Alfred. Only omission in my mind is "Let it Roll"

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 23:54 (seven years ago) link

I would've put "Wah-Wah" on there -- his anti-Paul pissiness was far better better than Lennon's ham-fisted attempts. Otherwise, ace list.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 March 2017 02:08 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I still think it sounds like he's singing "mmmmmm, I love dick!" in the second verse of 'I Dig Love'

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 22:26 (seven years ago) link

no I'm singing it

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 22:47 (seven years ago) link

Hehehehe!

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 22:48 (seven years ago) link

Lol, for sure

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 23:27 (seven years ago) link

He loves dick in the mornin'
He loves dick in the evenin'

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Thursday, 6 April 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

"Beware of Darkness" rules

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 December 2019 04:13 (four years ago) link

beware of ABKCO !!

budo jeru, Sunday, 22 December 2019 05:00 (four years ago) link

george's version of "if not for you" on this album may be my favorite george performance of all

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 22 December 2019 05:51 (four years ago) link

beware of darkness! clapton's playing is really good on that

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Sunday, 22 December 2019 05:52 (four years ago) link

xp!

the power of george compelled us to post at the same time

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Sunday, 22 December 2019 05:52 (four years ago) link

ATMP is one of those albums where there's 10-12 contenders for the very best song and there's no real way to be wrong. feels good out here

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Sunday, 22 December 2019 05:54 (four years ago) link

there are

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Sunday, 22 December 2019 05:54 (four years ago) link

the power of george compels you

budo jeru, Sunday, 22 December 2019 06:15 (four years ago) link

so many amazing tracks, not sure what i would pick

budo jeru, Sunday, 22 December 2019 06:16 (four years ago) link

george's version of "if not for you" on this album may be my favorite george performance of all

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, December 22, 2019

Heavy competition from "Apple Scruffs" though.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 December 2019 12:14 (four years ago) link

like both of those

Don’t Slander Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 December 2019 12:35 (four years ago) link

You had “What Is Life” on your best-of rundown, but maybe you are making a distinction between song and performance.

Don’t Slander Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 December 2019 12:59 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/1qPmqCt.jpg

del griffith, Sunday, 22 December 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link


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