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wow, that record looks pretty good vahid. was not familiar with that one. With his MJQ bandmate Connie Kay. And lots of 2 and 3 minute pieces! That's part of what I like about MJQ, the kind of jazz miniaturism they would do at times. I mean I love sidelong jams too but sometimes a little gnomic statement can be real satisfying.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 5 March 2005 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link

he explains in the liner notes: "we're trying to do something that most jazz musicians won't do when they record. that is to write a piece, so far as time limit is concerned, so that it can become a single ... i'd rather prepare in front and give them two minutes and fifty seconds ... [than] have it cut in half and the intro taken out and put here and the whole thing spliced up"

you know i misleadingly tossed off the term "modal" without even thinking about it. it's mid-60s bop but it's rooted in blues, with the odd latin or eastern touch here and there. a bit like roland kirk or yusef lateef at their most traditional.

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 5 March 2005 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah you know what -- I totally misspoke about Pyramid being the debut of "Django"; apparently they'd been performing it for years! I don't know why I was under that impression ... thought I had read that somewhere. Well, like I say, I'm not familiar with their earlier material on Prestige. But this thread inspired me to put on Pyramid and do some reading up on the boys..

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 5 March 2005 04:43 (nineteen years ago) link

oh and it still sounds great, btw..

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 5 March 2005 04:43 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah Pyramid is really fucking nice. I don't usually have too much tolerance for jazz vibes - although Bobby Huthcherson on Dolphy or Moncur dates is beautiful beyond compare.

I also have the Jazz Skyline from 56 with Lucky Thompson, Hank Jones, Kennt Clarke - its ok but rather too nice.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 5 March 2005 05:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Django is an absolutely beautiful song. almost every version of it i've heard has been great. i usually hate "old", "straight" jazz too

― JaXoN Hole (JasonD), Saturday, 5 March 2005 06:08 (nineteen years ago) link

fer example?

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 5 March 2005 07:02 (nineteen years ago) link

"in a new setting" is def a good one.
there's also "bag's groove" (bags was milt's nickname), with miles davis (and thelonious plus a bunch of other legends). jackson is only on the title track (2 dif versions), but the other songs are great, too.

― ()ops (()()ps), Saturday, 5 March 2005 07:04 (nineteen years ago) link

oops we need to do for jazz what we done for reggae!!!

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 5 March 2005 07:08 (nineteen years ago) link

i need to finish the one we did for reggae first! should get a chance this weekend.
unfortunately, a lot of my jazz is on lp (thanks to my uncle. RIP), but i could show you what i have on disc and see if it'll be worthwhile.

― ()ops (()()ps), Saturday, 5 March 2005 07:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm attempting to convince these guys I know to have a party where I can spin jazz LPs. So far, unsuccessful.

Picked up Big Band Bags tonight, which is quite good.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Saturday, 5 March 2005 07:43 (nineteen years ago) link

mullygrubbr, fer example? what?

most of the jazz i listen to is post 65, usually 69-75. i really dislike bop. i like post-coltrane spiritual shit, free stuff, funky stuff, fusion, etc. most of the music in any genre i listen to is from the 70s

― JaXoN Hole (JasonD), Saturday, 5 March 2005 07:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Jason, forgive me if I'm catching up here, but I'd love it if you could throw out a top 10 or whatever of albums . . . Out of curiosity if nothing else.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 5 March 2005 09:15 (nineteen years ago) link

oh god, i guess i'll play. these are some of the albums i really like right now. some are all time faves, some are just things i've found out about recently. (in no order, just what i find first in my stacks)

funkadelic - one nation under a groove
marvin gaye - midnight love
eddie gale - black rhythm happening
dennis wilson - pacific ocean blue
jorge ben - a tabua de esmeralda
alice coltrane - journey in satchidananda
miles davis - on the corner
fleetwood mac - tusk
david crosby - i wish i could remember my name
gene clark - no other
robert wyatt - old rottenhat
talking heads - remain in light
bobby hutcherson - now!
eugene mcdaniels - headless heroes of the apocalypse

― JaXoN Hole (JasonD), Saturday, 5 March 2005 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay okay, my favorite Milt Jackson album and it's totally underrated: MEMORIES OF THELONIOUS SPHERE MONK, a live disc from the early 70s. The sound is pristine, and the band is MJ, Monty Alexander, Ray Brown, and Mickey Roker. All the cuts are amazing and it has my favorite version of Django.

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 5 March 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry to sidetrack from milt again, but:
i've only heard "jagger the dagger" from that eugene mcdaniels album, and never knew if the rest of it was any good? is the rest similar to 'jagger the dagger', or would i be disappointed with it if that's the type of thing i was looking for?

― ()ops (()()ps), Sunday, 6 March 2005 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

dude, it's one of my favorite albums. you won't be disappointed at all. most of the tracks are on a folky-soul vibe, some are kinda spaced out like jagger the dagger. over all it's amazing. closest comparison is "inspiration information". also he has another album called "outlaw". if you fall in love w/headless heros (which you will), you'll like it. it's not as great, but it's still pretty good.

― JaXoN Hole (JasonD), Sunday, 6 March 2005 03:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Search this one:
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/matsuwa/home/data/jazzcdpict/milt_jackson/milt_jackson_bluenote.gif

― eman (eman), Sunday, 6 March 2005 04:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Jaxon i kinda meant what are the old straight things you hate (ok, bop) not what are the things you like. see if i could convince you otherwise! like - you hate ellington? monk? pre 65 miles? bill evans?

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 6 March 2005 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link

not that i can't see why you would love the stuff on that list! i need to hear that mcdaniels record.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 6 March 2005 04:51 (nineteen years ago) link

i've never given ellington a chance. i know from the bits of the "jungle music" i've heard that i'd dig it.

i love the early modal (kind of blue, etc) miles stuff. actually that's the first jazz album i ever heard and it still really speaks to me.

it's been a really long time since i've listened to monk, but i remember really liking him. the thing that really got me was that he sounds like he doesn't know what he fuck he's playing, but you can hear him singing along to the "wrong" notes. i LOVE when dudes sing their solos!!

but bop bores the hell out of me.

― JaXoN Hole (JasonD), Sunday, 6 March 2005 08:36 (nineteen years ago) link

haha yes.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 6 March 2005 08:42 (nineteen years ago) link

totally underrated: MEMORIES OF THELONIOUS SPHERE MONK, a live disc from the early 70s. The sound is pristine, and the band is MJ, Monty Alexander, Ray Brown, and Mickey Roker
Sounds good to me. Monty Alexander is actually playing in these parts this week, but I don't think I'll make it.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Diggin' and diggin' and diggin' (and then some) this Sunflower rekkid right now! (The Hubbard-written title piece is the biggest fave so far)
It has, amid other stuff, a 8:28 reworking of Bell/Creed's "People Make the World Go Round" - just a coupla days ago I listened to young Michael Jackson's version of that song. Yum, gonna spin them back to back now.

― t**t, Monday, 6 August 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

O-oh, didn't remember having posted on this one!...

Well, this time I came upon this thread having searched, in vain, for a Modern Jazz Quartet thread (just got this MJQ's 4LPs-on-2CD thingy the other day). - So, there is no Modern Jazz Quartet thred on ILM? Is there??

― t**t, Monday, 26 October 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

"totally underrated: MEMORIES OF THELONIOUS SPHERE MONK, a live disc from the early 70s. The sound is pristine, and the band is MJ, Monty Alexander, Ray Brown, and Mickey Roker"

totally agree with poster from 12 years ago, and Bags and Trane album is ace as well.

― calzino, Saturday, 13 May 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link

six years pass...

I was reminded of this record recently (not streaming but on youtube) and it's even better than I remember:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgGedjoU2IE

Also sounds incredible for a 1982 live recording (discogs says it was recorded in '82, anyways).

― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 5 February 2024 15:29 (two months ago) link

that rules

goodbye on CTI is a damn smooth masterpiece

― brimstead, Monday, 5 February 2024 17:24 (two months ago) link

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