third eye blind -- classic or dud

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Going by singles alone, this is pure dud. Trademark stilted vocal delivery is weak beyond all belief, arrangements lack drive, hooks while sometimes catchy are always incessantly grinding rather than pleasurab

Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 16 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Well, I've slowly warmed to 3EB over the years. My comparison is more like Oasis should've become, if they had bothered to keep doing pop instead of going wank-rock. And American, so maybe it doesn't work. I turned my mind on them when I heard Jumper, which I thought was a very good song in the lame-teen-angst genre. Stephen Jenkins may be a jerkoff but he's really not bad at pulling together that sort of thing, I've even bought one of their albums, used.

Ally, Tuesday, 16 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Case in point: Never Let You Go

Riff is 1/2 of sweet jane, and chorus is talking heads ("the world was moving and she was right there with it...") and guitar squiggle is stolen from fountains of wayne. And between the chorus is no verse, but the song title, repeated over and over. This is 3EB as "pop" -- the other 3EB is alt-sludge, with white boy rapper vocals which are fey rather than agressive, thus differentiating from bizkit.

Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 16 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i've never heard fountains of wayne or the specific heads song to which you're referring but i can assure you i'd take "never let you go" over anything off _loaded_ (was lou reed really the first guy to play d-a-g?) or any talking heads song i know. it's more energetic, upbeat, and unequivocal. and of course it does have verses and fine ones at that ("i remember the stupid things, the mood rings" is a great rhyme as far as i'm concerned).

sundar subramanian, Tuesday, 23 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

four weeks pass...
Third Eye Blind is neither classic or dud. Third Eye Blind is a decent band that I enjoy for purely visceral level. The lyrics are drivel. The music is catchy, fun and occasionally intelligent. The production on the last album was great. Somebody said "Never Let You Go" was a rip-off of Fountains of Wayne and Talking Heads. I don't know those bands well enough to judge, but "1000 July" is undeniably a rip-off of AC/DC's style. Take a listen to Radiohead's "Bones" and "Camoflage." That's plagiarism, plain and simple.

Jack Redelfs, Wednesday, 21 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

seven months pass...
Hey, there's that thing I wrote many months ago. It ended up sounding negative, not positive. Anyway. What I should have said is, yes, they're shallow, and the singles aren't too great, but if you listen to the album "Blue" it has a great feeling of unrestrained self-indulgence that you can't help but be swept up in. Vocoders, power chords, mellotrons, random Robert Plant impersonations, endless songs, high-budget guitar jangle, backing choirs and all...it just sweeps you up. Give it a try.

Jack Redelfs, Tuesday, 25 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
CLASSIC! I decided! They have a new album out, wtf? I have seen nothing of this until I was standing in the shop today and happened upon it in the listening section.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 22:44 (twenty years ago) link

you SO should buy the Good Charlotte album now. They rip off 3EB constantly but totally improve the formula.

"Losing A Whole Year" is really great.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 22:58 (twenty years ago) link

they steal the climax of "Semi-Charmed Life" on the awesome power ballad "Say Anything." Instead of saying goodbye goodbyee gooodbyeeee GOODBYE the GC boys are falling down down DOOOOOOOWWWWN!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 22:59 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not sure Third Eye Blind has had the longevity or social or stylistic impact to warrant a classic/dud yet...
-- JM (jimmythemo...), January 16th, 2001.

people said crap like that back in the day? TIMES HAVE CHANGED.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:04 (twenty years ago) link

Dude, comparing GOod Charlotte to 3EB is ludicrious, I've heard at least half of the GC album and unless the other half is the one that sounds like 3EB, then they don't do anything like 3EB.

Losing a Whole Year and Deep Inside Of You are their best songs.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:07 (twenty years ago) link

people said crap like that back in the day? TIMES HAVE CHANGED.

Sure have! Now they're even more dud than ever. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:13 (twenty years ago) link

"Say Anything" definitely does. "Hold On" too.

How is the new 3EB album? I haven't heard anything off it. Didn't Fred Durst play guitar on a track or two?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:16 (twenty years ago) link

Ned you're the second most passive aggressive poster on this board, it's bizarre.

Anthony do you know everything about Fred Durst? I haven't listened to the new album yet but it sounded good frm the store snippets.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:16 (twenty years ago) link

I am Fred Durst. Anthony Miccio is my screen name.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

Ned you're the second most passive aggressive poster on this board, it's bizarre.

Yay!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

who's the most passive agressive ILXor?

3eb still sux, tho'.

Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:19 (twenty years ago) link

I don't actively listen to that album or anything but it's really all right, pleasant if you don't ask too much. (I'm pretty sure I just started this thread because I thought they get more crap than they deserve.) "Deep Inside of You" is nice, I agree. It came on at one of the Toronto FAPs and I enjoyed it. It is a fairly diverse album, one reason why I rate it a lot higher than the first Weezer, say.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:21 (twenty years ago) link

goddamn, is everyone determined to make me count to ten?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:24 (twenty years ago) link

do you like Creed, too, anthony?

Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:36 (twenty years ago) link

THE FIRST WEEZER IS THE BEST ALBUM EVER, SUNDAR, WTF???

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:39 (twenty years ago) link

For some reason you just convinced me to give it another chance by using caps lock and multiple question marks.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:44 (twenty years ago) link

I don't mind people not liking Weezer. If Alex in NYC declared "Weezer is but a stray piece of fecal matter clinging to a hair on Jaz Coleman's ass" I'd be cool with it. I just hate when someone goes on about how some band is sorta alright fine don't care and then says "better than Weezer, though."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:47 (twenty years ago) link

Tad, I'm no Creed fan, though I like "With Arms Wide Open" and parts of "My Sacrifice."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:48 (twenty years ago) link

I knew that'd do the trick, Sundar. We are of similar mind.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:51 (twenty years ago) link

Oh shit, I just saw Ned's post on the Nada Surf thread now. Sorry. (Still, proof that Ally must have had me in mind as most passive-aggressive poster.)

I'm almost done Weezer (mostly as I remembered - I still love "Holiday", like "In the Garage", don't mind a couple others, but don't get most of it). I'll get back when I've listened to Blue again.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 23 June 2003 03:50 (twenty years ago) link

Hmm, the ending of "Only in Dreams" is pretty nice actually. . .

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 23 June 2003 03:56 (twenty years ago) link

The new single contains these lyrics.

"And I see you fogging up the mirror
Vapor round your body glistens in the shower
And I want to stay right here and go down on you for an hour"

Thats ok with me.

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 23 June 2003 21:26 (twenty years ago) link

it'd be classic if the next line was sung in a muffled voice.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 June 2003 21:30 (twenty years ago) link

Haha Sundar, you are so far from the most passive-aggressive ILXor! You need to try way harder and stop being polite and Canadian.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 23 June 2003 23:39 (twenty years ago) link

who is it then?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 June 2003 23:40 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
REVIVE-O!

In perusing through antiquated ILM threads (hey, gimme a break, it's 6:20 am and I've been up for a bajillion hours), 3EB is a band I seem to fluctuate between liking, tolerating, actually quite enjoying and abjectly loathing. Sure, Jenkins is a shameless Ass Shogun and that whole business about portraying the Kinks? Oh do verily kid me not. But as I sit here in my office, blasting "Losing A Whole Year" out of my computer l can't help but think they definetely had something. There are several damn respectable tracks on that first record. The second record? Ehhh....not so much, and let's not even mention the third record (actually, can anyone even remember the title?) I compared them to Maroon 5 not too long ago, but I'm pretty sure Maroon 5 have yet to write a botched relationship song as on-the-money as "How's it Gonna Be?" or the afore-mentioned "Losing a Whole Year".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 25 September 2004 09:23 (nineteen years ago) link

well they're less nauseating than matchbox 20! at least they have that going for them.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 25 September 2004 11:02 (nineteen years ago) link

i remember i chose "how's it gonna be" to be the first song on the the first ilm "listening chamber", and all i got was HATERZ. i didn't put it there out of any particular love for the song (i think it's okay btw, rather pretty even), i just wanted to see how ilx'd react to some pretty standard alt. rock, because at the time it seemed like something of a whipping genre. we didn't have a miccio then.

i *do* miss radio rock bands having shiny hooks instead of whiny sludge. all we've got in that dept today is, well, maroon 5 (who i don't have the energy to feel one way or another about) and the occasional linkin park single. the good charlottes and all of them don't seem to be trying as hard in the post-blink 182 era. actually, i've changed my mind. i don't really care at all.

m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 25 September 2004 12:33 (nineteen years ago) link

well they're less nauseating than matchbox 20! at least they have that going for them.
-- latebloomer, September 25th, 2004

{resets bar, low. replaces blood-encrusted handkerchief over wheelchair-bound man's face. brief tableaux. exeunt.}

DUD! There was actually a lively debate about how terrible 3EB were on the pavement list once. Whatever happened to the 3EB/Eddie Vedder rivalry that was playing out on VH1? FWIW, what happened to Pearl Jam?

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 25 September 2004 12:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not really a fan, but "Semi-Charmed Life" was a deservedly monstrous hit, and has a place in my heart for being of the misleadingly-catchy-melodies- masking-desperately-misanthropic-lyrics school of songwriting. Any band that can get lyrics like "She comes 'round and she goes down on me" and "Those little red panties, they pass the test" on the radio is OK by me.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I dunno, those lyrics seem pretty tame to me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Dudududududud. It contains just about everything you really can't like about music. And worst of all, it's so damn catchy that you can't really tell if you're singing along ironically or liking it for real.

strom (strom), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm talking about Semi-Charmed Life of course. Jesus... there are two Third Eye Blind threads on the internet at the same time?

strom (strom), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I dunno, those lyrics seem pretty tame to me.

They are, but they're kinda subsersive in the context of the song (which is essentially an ode to being strung out on crystal meth).

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link

SEX AND DRUGS ON THE RADIO OMG WTF

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link

(Sorry.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Play nice, Ned. (Also, when are you coming to Toronto?)

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

If I can swing it, Veteran's Day weekend. But that's not a guarantee by any means.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link

They are, but they're kinda subsersive in the context of the song (which is essentially an ode to being strung out on crystal meth).

-- Tantrum The Cat, September 25th, 2004.

especially when the song fashions itself as either a judgement or a self-aggrandizing "it-could-have-been-me" ode, which makes it UberDud. it's like an Ur text for duds. of course, it's also the gist of the American remake of Traffic.

no low spark for me.

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I just wrote and erased a long bile-filled post about "How's It Gonna Be?" and how anybody who defends that track deserves to be blah-blah-blah.

Clearly it's opposite day.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link

especially when the song fashions itself as either a judgement or a self-aggrandizing "it-could-have-been-me" ode, which makes it UberDud. it's like an Ur text for duds. of course, it's also the gist of the American remake of Traffic.

I never thought the song was particularly judgemental either way. I haven't seen either version of Traffic so I can't comment on that.

Also:

SEX AND DRUGS ON THE RADIO OMG WTF

It's too bad there's already TV On The Radio (who are awesome), because Sex And Drugs On The Radio is a face-rockingly good band name.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:57 (nineteen years ago) link

At first I thought he meant Steve Winwood's old band Traffic.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 25 September 2004 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link

At first I thought he meant Steve Winwood's old band Traffic.
-- sundar subramanian, September 25th, 2004

don't give steven s0d3rb3rgh any "new" ideas!

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 25 September 2004 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
"jumper" is a great little oasis song!

cindy williams permafrost (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 10:54 (eighteen years ago) link

interesting, are they getting better with age somehow?

big city slam (Spottie), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link

kinda feel like the “new” members are finally completely comfortable with the material, approx 10 years after joining the band. taking back sunday have experienced an almost identical upgrade in live performance over the past three years

apparently... billy corgan is on the new record?

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link

Corgan is their "musical consigliere".

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9krdFaC1WE

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 4 October 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link

i love the new album even though there is an ill-advised trap song on it

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link

“tropic scorpio” an instant classic

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bUrlwtbT68

a perfect third eye blind song

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 18 October 2019 11:51 (four years ago) link

yeah that seems like the standout after one listen through.

lol @ 2XTigers

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link

i also really love "got so high" and "turn me on" and despite/because of the goofy-ass lyrics, "ways"

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link

tropic scorpio through light it up is a good run

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

this is better than expected.

DT, Friday, 18 October 2019 23:52 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

A masterpiece.

I’m not pandering, I’m just aware of my sources.

Music is foundational to my life. Though I am infused with Joy Division and Bon Iver and such, the headwaters of the music that flows through me, all of it, finds its source in Black brilliance.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 June 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link

lol hoo boy

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 22 June 2020 23:08 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Kinda feel like the midst of a gentle entreaty to a suicidal friend is not the best time to belt out a 'YEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYOW'. Like did you forget they're literally tottering on the ledge, Stephan? Maybe pocket your banshee wails until your fragile buddy is safely on the ground again.

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

can you put the past away? well, can you?!!??!?!?!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

Seems like as good a time as ever to share:

holy SHIT I can't believe someone saved this and put it up on youtube!!!!!https://t.co/SExDc9X4YK

— Bernard Snowy (@wasntmebro) August 22, 2020

handsome boy modelling software (bernard snowy), Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link

For those not into blindly clicking links: It's the entire 1997(?) episode of MTV's Road Rules where the cast gets to meet Third Eye Blind and work on a suicide prevention PSA set to "Jumper"

handsome boy modelling software (bernard snowy), Thursday, 10 September 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link

OMG

Does it make me an asshole if I suggest that said suicide prevention PSA functions in part as a gift from the '97 cast of Road Rules to their future selves?

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 September 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

'It's okay, you may have done this twenty three years ago but it's possible to move past it and still find value in your life.'

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 September 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

thats amazing

Spottie, Thursday, 10 September 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

jenkins really radiating his hardcore douchebag energy at the start of that episode

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 September 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link

i imagine third eye blind band meetings are eerily similar to the alec baldwin scene in glengarry glen ross

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 September 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

otm lol

Spottie, Thursday, 10 September 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

I know nothing about him as a person but based only on his songs he always seemed sorta like a golden retriever recovering from a mild head injury. My illusions, they are shattered.

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 September 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

five months pass...
five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfZ0KSR7DBY

really excellent

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 30 July 2021 05:11 (two years ago) link

nice

pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 30 July 2021 16:06 (two years ago) link

true

sean gramophone, Friday, 30 July 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_asb6jz8-UM

i am doomed to like every song this band puts out

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 20 August 2021 05:21 (two years ago) link

u n me brad

pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 20 August 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

new album is great, better than screamer in my estimation. definitely, explicitly their recorded-remotely "pandemic" album, coded into both the lyrics (which reference it directly and obliquely) and the sound (acoustic guitar-dominated, and for the most part the more muted side of 3eb, a la the second half of ursa major, but also occasionally fractured and weird, bc jenkins loves bon iver so much). there's also a suite of three post-punkish songs in the middle of the record ("dust storm," "the dying blood," and "funeral singers") and they're my favorite songs on it, especially the "just like heaven"-biting "dust storm," married to a lyric that really steeps me in my climate change feelings

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 September 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link

actually, "funeral singers" kinda sounds like a long lost song from out of the vein, it's increasingly my favorite

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 September 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link

got a link? whens this out?

a talented ‘Rebel’ with Balls (Spottie), Thursday, 23 September 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link

tomorrow!

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 September 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link

boom. ok ill giver a listen tomorrow

a talented ‘Rebel’ with Balls (Spottie), Thursday, 23 September 2021 19:57 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

debut is 25 years old today. a perfect album obv

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Friday, 8 April 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link

I watched John/Nick Cassavette’s ‘She’s So Lovely’ this week, & I noticed on the film’s IMDB page ‘Semi-Charmed Life’ is listed in the soundtrack. I did not hear it in the film. Maybe used for a trailer or something?

BlackIronPrison, Friday, 8 April 2022 22:52 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Today in weird algorithms: The "You might also like..." Spotify playlist recs under Third Eye Blind albums are about what you would expect --'California Rock', '90s Frat Party', etc -- but their recommendations for The Third Eye Blind Collection (3xCD compilation of first the three albums in full) are the "This is..." artist playlists for Big Sean, Pusha T, Jay-Z, A$AP Rocky, and Future

The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 13:48 (ten months ago) link

nine months pass...

I don't know what the deal is...I wrote these dudes off as corporate himbos when they first emerged and it isn't even really my era (Ii was well embedded in college at the time and not listening to pop/alt radio at all at the time) so there isn't even the taint of nostalgia to explain it away, buuuuut...I'm really feeling the singles from their first album lately? Are...are they actually good? Were they growers rather than showers? 'Losing a Whole Year' is haunting me at the moment. 'Never Let You Go' has done this previously. Help. Help me.

Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 28 March 2024 01:15 (three weeks ago) link

first album is a no-skips classic!

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 28 March 2024 01:19 (three weeks ago) link

LONDON

brimstead, Thursday, 28 March 2024 01:47 (three weeks ago) link

Top ten 90s album easy

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Thursday, 28 March 2024 03:41 (three weeks ago) link

god wait’ll you hear “thanks a lot”

ivy., Thursday, 28 March 2024 03:57 (three weeks ago) link

God of Wine <3 <3

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 March 2024 04:02 (three weeks ago) link

Those last three songs on loop for life

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Thursday, 28 March 2024 04:04 (three weeks ago) link

otm

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 March 2024 04:53 (three weeks ago) link


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