teaching mark s a *LESSON* response two: DE LA SOUL

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(i never saw that, maria) (25th hour is not didactic, actually)

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 31 May 2003 16:31 (twenty years ago) link

I think Ernest Dickerson, Spike's long-time cinematographer, has shot some of the most sumptuous, color-saturated crane shots ever conceived. The opening of Do The Right Thing, where the camera slowly meanders to Samuel Jackson as the DJ.... incredible stuff. I guess I feel a little put off by the preachiness of his ideas sometimes.

― maria b (maria b), Sunday, 1 June 2003 16:31 (twenty years ago) link

And, I haven't seen 25th Hour yet. So, maybe he's improved.

― maria b (maria b), Sunday, 1 June 2003 16:32 (twenty years ago) link

mark s language can’t be everywhere comprehensible (it wd lose its cachet if it were).

OTM observation re: Spike.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 June 2003 18:06 (twenty years ago) link

interesting that you chose to contrast public enemy with de la soul as both at the time were the most popular acts making an effort to rebel against hip-hop charicatures (albeit unsuccessfully, turn on mtv). public enemy's graphic logo was a silhouette of a b-boy between the cross hairs and de la soul's "me, myself and i video" parodied the kangoled b-boys in gold ropes. public enemy (and early nwa) chose wearing clocks around their necks rather than chains and ropes. flava flav's perpetually unanswered "do you know what time it is?" held a certain weight that the beastie boys' answer "it's time to get ill" didn't.

"transmitting live (from mars)" is an extension of that mood/era. in context, i think the "message" was of the zeitgeist (albeit subtle/vague), but musically, it is not attached to any time period, sounding simultaneously old and new even today.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:18 (twenty years ago) link

where is response one?

― the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:41 (twenty years ago) link

It was about Zappa, The Pinefox - if you search for a thread with Zappa in the title I'm sure you'll find it.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 20:58 (twenty years ago) link

where is response three?

― zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 15:48 (twenty years ago) link

three? ain't seen it yet. could be in the making(?)

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 15:52 (twenty years ago) link

on its way

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:09 (twenty years ago) link

is it da real one?

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:16 (twenty years ago) link

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:25 (twenty years ago) link

racist!

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:26 (twenty years ago) link

haha

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:26 (twenty years ago) link

five years pass...

ok leave rap alone dude

― fenriz jr (wanko ergo sum), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link

ILMisDeAd!!!

― Test Tube Teens from the Year 1754 (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 15 January 2009 13:36 (fifteen years ago) link

~~ILMisDeAd!!!~~

― Test Tube Teens from the Year 1754 (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 16 January 2009 04:37 (fifteen years ago) link

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