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You mentioned Bebel Gilberto. her album is pretty good too.

but i thought that was obvious

JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah,
and Gilberto Gil's (1998)- "O Sol De Oslo" is one of my favorite Brazilian albums.

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

but what about the kids man? what are the kids up to?

JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

they normally sound like this, "Even though this isn't our favorite of [so and so]'s album, we still think it's great and you should buy it"

Pretty spot on, Jason except you forgot the obigatory exclamation point!

Does anyone else find this extremely annoying!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

lately i've been getting these e-mail fwd's from Barrett Martin (via Mike Watt's mailing list) about his experiences recording in Brazil with Brazillian musicians, and he makes it sound pretty damned interesting, aside from all the "this is how Brazil is great and how American popular music sucks" ranting.

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Does anyone else find this extremely annoying!

Yes but

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Carlinhos Brown is good but inconsistent. The 2 I have, "Alfagamabetizado," I think I spelled that right, is nice, updated Gil with interesting percussion touches. "Omelete Man" is really weird--some of it sounds like Procol Harum meets Nilsson or John Lennon, very spacey English-style pop with typical saccharine Brazilian harmonies, strings, pop esperanto lyrics, etc. Pretty good really. Suba is also good. Amon Tobin is Brazilian orig., lives in England now I believe, as a sample artist he beats Shadow or any of those guys by a mile, in my opinion.
I've also heard some of the Brazilian electronica, Caipirissima is a collection of same, some cool stuff.

You're right, above, about Dusty Groove and their reviews, although the store itself in Chicago is kinda nice and they do have good stuff if you're into classic '60s Brazilian pop and suchlike...

Jess Hill (jesshill), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Do you expect unbiased reviews from someone trying to sell something?
I always make sure that I get a second opinion on a record I see at DustyGroove before buying.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Wait, I just reread this thread; Al is the Barrett Martin yr talking about the guy that was in the Screaming Trees? What the heck is he doing in Brazil?

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 06:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Paul Sci-Fi Soul did you see the "best Brasilian DJ in New York" last night??

i actually have a song by Otto ona comp, it's an intensely moody tribute to Bob Marley and it really rolls, i've liked it for years.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 06:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Timbalada! I like the Carlinhos Brown stuff I've heard, but Timbalada is the shit. It has surdos=it is good.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 13:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Just saw this, it seems like most of the new stuff is either centred on Recife or Sao Paulo. (Or at least new and interesting to me)

Jason, you should definitely check out Chico Science – I think he was brilliant and his death seemed like the end of era and maybe death of mangue (friends of mine in Brazil who work with music were devastated when he died). The scene seems to be going strong tho and his old band Nacao Zumbi is still putting stuff out. I’d recommend checking out Chico first and then if you like him going for NZ. Start with “Afrociberdelia” as it should give you a sense of whether you want to go further or not.

Lately I’ve been enjoying DJ Dolores & Orchestra Santa Massa, which has traditional fiddle, etc over various beats. I don’t love the entire entire album but the first couple of tracks get me grinning ear-to-ear whenever I listen to ‘em. The DJ approach to mangue.

Zuco 103 takes a different approach to mixing electronica with Brazilian. It is more clubbeats oriented as opposed to mangue etc. and live at least Zuco are huge amounts of fun. Their new album has gotten pretty good reviews , but their first “Outro Lado” had only about 4 songs I really liked with the rest being ‘eh’ so I’m waiting for a free copy.

Lenine’s album “Na Prassao” is great. Samba mixed with rock and electronica is a v. basic description. Most people I know who are more knowledgeable about the contemp. scene than me are are big fans.

Others I like if not blown away - Pedro Luis A Parade (again mixing electronica/brazilian but from a more rock perspective) Suba (pretty strightforward samba & bossa nova over loops, “Sao Paulo Confessions” is his big work – he also produced, among others, Bebel’s "Tanto Tempo")

Seen Max de Castro but have no memory of his performance (generally not a positive sign)

From the second generation of Brazilians, as mentioned above, Bebel is doing good stuff. Only heard one track by Moreno Veloso so can’t really comment on him tho that one track was v. funky. (incidentally, one of the biggest Brazilian labels Trama (who I think put out Otto) is run by the son of Elis Regina)

All I can think of for now, will post later if brain comes back online.

H (Heruy), Friday, 14 March 2003 14:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

I found "Music Typewriter" pretty mediocre, nice but nothing special. I didn't realize Trama was run by Elis' son.

Jess Hill (jesshill), Friday, 14 March 2003 14:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

two months pass...
i was just told to check out Andrea Marquee's "Zumbi" and Rica Amabis' "Sambadelic"

anyone heard either and have comments? they sound pretty cool from the amg and amazon reviews.

JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 22:07 (twenty years ago) link

Jason, I would say that Rita Lee is a definite classic, certainly not Brazilian Sting. She's charming and full of puns! Chico Science / NZ and the whole Mangue thing may be a tad culture-bound, but the power is undeniable. There are two or three tracks on CSNZ's Afrociberdelia that kick seriously. They have always been phenomenally open to genre-fucking, as you put it, but in ways that play(ed) well both at home and abroad. I won't hear a word against Mundo Livre - their sound is just so effortless. Fred 04 is one of my favourite vocalists.

Daniel (dancity), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 23:08 (twenty years ago) link

BTW, mangue translates to mangrove, or 'mangroove', as some like to call it. This is a type of all-encompassing eco-system in Northeastern Brazil that seemed to encapsulate the new movement of musical hybrids, while remaining particularly Pernambucan. Pernambuco has a staggering proliferation of musical styles, which began to be recognised by pop/rock musicians in the early 90s as an alternative to Rio / SP / Bahia. If you wnat to get further into this, I recommend Mestre Ambrosio (the only fiddle band in the world worth attention) and Nana Vasconcelos (ECM percussion legend). Alternatively seek out any maracatu band live. Thunder.

Daniel (dancity), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 23:17 (twenty years ago) link

I used to like Lenine, but his sound really drags. Ed Motta tries way to hard to sound new. Check out his uncle Tim Maia, especially his early seventies work.

Daniel (dancity), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 23:23 (twenty years ago) link

i listened to a Tim Maia album that i enjoyed, but it was an original pressing and pretty pricey.

i recently picked up Rita Lee's first album "Build Up" and have been really digging it. it was produced by one of the guys from the Mutantes, so it is still a little wacky, but has more of a big band orchestration thing going on for the beginning of the album at least (near the end it gets a bit more rocking). but i swear, the more recent album of hers i bought (from the mid to late 90s) was the pits. her charming puns would be totally lost on me since i don't speak Portuguese.

any word on those two artists i just mentioned upthread?

JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 23:46 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry, Jason, I'm not familiar with the music of either. (Heard of A.M., but can't say more than that)

Daniel (dancity), Thursday, 15 May 2003 07:02 (twenty years ago) link

theres a comp of liuz gonzaga tunes reinterpreted by the newcomers which gives a broad overview: everything from mangue to hard rock.

the marquee and amabis discs are nice enough. nice being the word to watch.

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 15 May 2003 08:43 (twenty years ago) link

A friend of mine recently sent me a killer mangue compilation - but on a different tip sambaloco's latest compilation of drum'n'bass classics is a corker, too...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 15 May 2003 09:12 (twenty years ago) link

Charlie Brown Jr.: they play hip hop and punk, with funk flavourings. Great party music!

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 May 2003 11:04 (twenty years ago) link

Also, from old school artists: Nana Vasconcelo's Storytelling (1995) and Uakti's Trilobyte (1997) are great recent albums. The first is sort of percussive folk/ambient record, and the second one... It's hard to describe; pseudo-classical crypto-folk music played with self made and customized instruments, perhaps?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 May 2003 11:11 (twenty years ago) link

six years pass...

anybody listening to the new Ceu album?

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm curious about it, but have not heard it yet. Not that I was wowed by her prior one, but it wasn't bad.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah I only felt the need to download one of the tracks from the last album. I'm 11 tracks into this one (out of 13), and it's pretty good!

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Nobody here into Curumin?

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 10 July 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i am now!

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 10 July 2009 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i actually have a song by Otto ona comp, it's an intensely moody tribute to Bob Marley and it really rolls, i've liked it for years.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:10 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark

^^^^
Listening to this great track, "Bob", right now: I have it on a comp too, What's Happening in Pernambuco, which is great throughout -- but I don't think this was out in 2003, so what comp do you have it on?

I had no idea it was about Marley.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 10 July 2009 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I believe Curumin is still to make his best album, but I really like the other two

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 10 July 2009 01:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Curumin was appearing in Central Park (summerstage) NYC with Juana Molina Wednesday night. Alas, I'm in DC and no gig here

curmudgeon, Friday, 10 July 2009 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Has anyone listened to the new Céu album? Sounds to me like a dub version of a Brightblack Morning Light record with some Brazilian textures - obviously. I think sometimes her music lacks punch, but it's a good album overall.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 24 July 2009 13:03 (fourteen years ago) link

ed mottas that bad?

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 24 July 2009 13:09 (fourteen years ago) link

No, but I can't say he does outstanding work.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 24 July 2009 13:23 (fourteen years ago) link

You're so 2 weeks ago, Shin

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 24 July 2009 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha, I really am.

this guy in NYT wrote nice things about her
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/arts/music/23ceu.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=c%C3%A9u&st=cse

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 24 July 2009 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Orquestra Contemporânea de Olinda,from Northeast Brazil is touring the US now with its rock meets frevo(Brazilian brass band) meets ska sound

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/arts/music/03atrium.html

,Apr 1 2010 8:00P
LINCOLN CENTER - NEW YORK New York, New York
Apr 3 2010 10:00P
SOB´S - NEW YORK NEW YORK, New York
Apr 5 2010 6:00P
KENNEDY CENTER - WASHINGTON Washington, Washington
Apr 6 2010 8:00P
RUMBA - CHICAGO Chicago, Illinois
Apr 7 2010 8:00P
PERCUSSION AND BRASS WORKSHOP IN NEW ORLEANS New Orleans, Louisiana
Apr 8 2010 8:00P
workshop Maciel Salú, Tiné and SHOW in New Orleans New Orleans, Louisiana
Apr 9 2010 8:00P
HEINEKEN TRANSATLANTIC Miami, Florida
Apr 16 2010 9:00P
AUDITÓRIO IBIRAPUERA - SP São Paulo, São Paulo
Apr 17 2010 9:00P
Teatro - OI FUTURO IPANEMA Rio de janeiro, Rio de Janeiro
Apr 18 2010 8:00P
Teatro - OI FUTURO IPANEMA Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 April 2010 03:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Here's a youtube of 'em. The Washington DC show Monday night is actually from 6 to 7 and is free.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXMj4VQ3-_E

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 April 2010 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm looking forward to seeing them tonight.

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 April 2010 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

http://festivalbrazil.southbankcentre.co.uk/

Anybody see anything in this fest?

curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 July 2010 05:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I want to again mention that Maria Rita is great. I don't quite get the neglect. Maybe she's too simple? Anyway, she's certainly not in the tropicalia vein, and she's not doing crazy electronic/metal/atonal mashups, so that may contribute to a lack of interest.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 24 July 2010 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/06/arts/music/06latin.html?ref=music

I confess that I have never previously heard of Ivete Sangalo, Brazil's biggest pop star, who just sold out a show at Madison Square Garden in NYC.

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 September 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PMRrt8Wwbw&feature=fvsr

I'm trusting the word of Jon Pareles, from the NY Times, that she's the biggest current Brazilian pop star.

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 September 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

The encore part must have been great.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I liked that more than I expected to. Why haven't any of our local Brazilian experts mentioned this person before (or have they)?

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Sangalo is definitely "not my beach" as they say in Brazil. Her tinny rhythms and shrill voice used to get right on my nerves when I was over there.

Daniel Giraffe, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 09:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I did an ILX search of posts with "Sangalo" and the only mentions that came up were when someone posted a list of Latin Grammy nominees (they have a Brazilian category).

I Like Margareth Menezes who appeared onstage for the encore part.Below is how Pareles described it in the NY Times:

She brought her whole staff onstage along with Margareth Menezes and Netinho, fellow Bahian singers. With her band somehow picking up cues amid the crowd, she vaulted through a half-dozen carnival songs, full of references to the streets and neighborhoods of Bahia’s capital, Salvador, with the whole arena singing along. Even in New York she was playing to a home crowd.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Why haven't any of our local Brazilian experts mentioned this person before (or have they)?

because she's crap. I really don't see anything interesting in her, musically speaking

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Thursday, 9 September 2010 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I only listened to two songs. I don't hear how her voice is shrill, it sounds fine to me. I somehow didn't really feel drawn in to the songs rhythmically, but couldn't put my finger on why. She seems fine to me, but nothing to get excited about, although now that I know there is local hate for her I want to hear more to see if I actually like her. I don't think she's more boring than Céu.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 9 September 2010 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link

now that I know there is local hate for her I want to hear more to see if I actually like her

good luck

I don't think she's more boring than Céu

Céu is not boring. She's got a fantastic 2nd album. And I think it's hard to compare her to Ivete since they're very different from each other apart from the fact both are Brazilians

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Thursday, 9 September 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link

https://brazilbeatblog.wordpress.com/top-ten-lists/

This blog had Tulipa Ruiz in a top 10 list for 2015, and one of my faves Romulo Froes in a couple of other years

curmudgeon, Monday, 28 November 2022 04:35 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

sessa - "estrela acesa" and tim bernardes - "mil coisas invisíveis" are two i really enjoyed this year. both could be described as retro and i saw today that both made the aquarium drunkard EOY list.

budo jeru, Monday, 12 December 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

bernardes record kind of a downer singer-songwriter workout for fans of caetano's "transa" while the sessa record is more like mystic samba in the vein of powell / de moraes.

budo jeru, Monday, 12 December 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

agree, two v good records

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 10:04 (one year ago) link

Listened to Bernardes last night. Good but retro and Caetano Velosa like

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

Veloso and maybe shouldn't have said "but"

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Really enjoying the Tim Bernardes album and wish I'd heard it in time to nominate it for the EOY poll. I get that it's retro but it's a sound that should never die.

Chris L, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 13:06 (one year ago) link

Seem to recall his previous album was also very satisfying. And was he in some famous rock group?

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 13:13 (one year ago) link

he's still part of the band (he also founded it), O Terno.
they're kinda big in the independent scene, but by no means they're 'famous'

fpsa, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-latin/pabllo-vittar-baianasystem-brazilian-politics-1234704876/?curator=MediaREDEF

BaianaSystem’s music was in constant dialogue with the country’s zeitgeist. A year after Bolsonaro took office, the band released their sophomore album, O Futuro Não Demora (“The Future Won’t Take Long”). They weren’t strangers to sharing direct, uncompromising messages with their listeners — their first album was full of sharp, stabbing lyrics blended with Afro-Latin tones, a punk rock attitude, and traces of Bahia’s pagodão, a modern percussion-soaked strand of samba. Their second release was even more blunt: In the feverish modern mambo jam “Sulamericano,” French-Colombian artist Manu Chao joins in as Passapusso sings, “Counter-attack, I’m making plans to counter-attack.”

curmudgeon, Monday, 3 April 2023 00:24 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Djavan is an old-timer at this point and some of his songs are too busy or too jazz fusiony for me, but I love his ballads and liked some of his songs on his most recent album D. He's starting on his first North American tour in 13 years. Thinking I might go see his suburban DC area gig Friday night

curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 April 2023 20:58 (eleven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

I'm enjoying the new album by Rogê - 'new' but leans heavily on Baden/Vinicius, Jorge Ben, Verocai etc. https://www.waxpoetics.com/article/roge-samba-rock-meets-tommy-brenneck-bespoke-soul/

giraffe, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 14:34 (ten months ago) link

great recommendation, thanks!

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 16:13 (ten months ago) link

will check this out

budo jeru, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 17:25 (ten months ago) link

ok, so this fucking rules

budo jeru, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 17:37 (ten months ago) link

Fun comp, pretty wild nursery tales sometymes, varied x compatible enough, on Mr. Bongo's Bandcamp: https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a0753925496_16.jpg

dow, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 18:22 (ten months ago) link

This week: A special Semipop Life guest post from @BrazilBeat1, so you can get your dirty samba recommendations wholesale without me playing middleman and asking "but how much does this sound like Tom Zé really":https://t.co/b1UfgjEW03 pic.twitter.com/fQU2K3TI1s

— bradluen (@bradluen) May 14, 2023

curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:32 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

Luedji Luna, r&b crooner from Salvador, Bahia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omjgry2dYbg

corrs unplugged, Sunday, 2 July 2023 20:53 (nine months ago) link

two months pass...

Enjoying the most recent Julia Mestre album https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QoWXDh-0As

giraffe, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 08:20 (six months ago) link

The album is called Arrepiada and it's lovely.

giraffe, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 08:21 (six months ago) link

I'm only coming back to it now, but I still think Marina Sena is fascinating, even in an ocean of autotune. The album is Vicio Inerente.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RT1BKhL51I
Olho no Gato

Nabozo, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 12:16 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

Tidal served me up that Rogê album and I'm loving it - those strings!

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 10:27 (five months ago) link

Roge is doing some US gigs shortly. A one hour free one in DC at Kennedy Center on November 30 at 6pm et that will also be streamed on Kennedy Center YouTube and Facebook ( and archived on YouTube) plus a Los Angeles gig December 5 says Spotify

curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 November 2023 16:30 (five months ago) link

https://brazilbeatblog.wordpress.com/2023/04/18/2023-part-one/

Romulo Flores who is one of many acts mentioned in this blog , has 2 collaboration releases this year — Na Goela which combines traditional Brazilian with noisy guitar rock & is with Tiago Rosas; and Elefante which is more tuneful Brazilian and is recorded with Rodrigo Campos. The blogger just mentions the noisier one and compares it to a Wire album. I don’t exactly hear Wire on that one

curmudgeon, Friday, 17 November 2023 21:58 (four months ago) link

Eh typo . Romulo Froes with an accent mark over the o in Froes

curmudgeon, Friday, 17 November 2023 22:00 (four months ago) link

The one time I went to Brazil we planned on seeing Romulo Froes perform, but our flights there got delayed and we missed the gig.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 November 2023 18:09 (four months ago) link

I still need to listen to more acts mentioned on that Brazilbeat blog

curmudgeon, Sunday, 26 November 2023 23:43 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Roge “Curyman” album made the Mojo list and was just nominated for ilx list ballot . Yay!

curmudgeon, Monday, 11 December 2023 22:13 (four months ago) link

It's in my top 10 for sure!

budo jeru, Monday, 11 December 2023 22:38 (four months ago) link

thoroughly enjoyable record, my kinda revivalism

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 07:32 (four months ago) link

woop

giraffe, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 08:17 (four months ago) link

Roge with a drummer doing a 1 hour free show at the Kennedy Center in Washington DC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPRPM8r_ZNE

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 16:57 (four months ago) link

I nominated it! That style of music is so rich and beautiful, it shouldn't need to be revived; and he's really adept at it.

Chris L, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 01:58 (four months ago) link

he didn't really 'revived' anything, folks. he's a regular guy doing regular MPB by any measure! it's good, but it's weird to see such laurels, idk...

fpsa, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 02:19 (four months ago) link

otm

budo jeru, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 04:16 (four months ago) link

not much available in the anglosphere about mpb between the 80's and now tbf, and even some of the brazilian sources I've read don't stray outside that timeframe, boomer hegemony I guess

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 10:30 (four months ago) link

by revivalism I meant that the mpb sound on his album has a "retro" tinge to my ears, just listen to the strings

there's probably a good/boring explanation (apart from the quality of the material) for why this particular record is getting so much exposure

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 10:53 (four months ago) link

I've enjoyed the album but my immediate thought was how close it sounds to Clube da Esquina and how much it relies on arrangements when I rather expect a strong vocal personality and some kind of messing-up with the formula from modern MPB. So my uneducated guess is that it gets exposure from precisely not following the program.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 13:09 (four months ago) link

Roge's music definitely harks back to some sort of golden period of MPB/samba, but to me it goes back further than Clube da Esquina. I feel it sounds more like late 60s albums'Travessia' or 'Milton Nascimento'. I hear bits of 60s Caetano and Chico Buarque in there too.

giraffe, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 13:37 (four months ago) link

Roge album is produced by Thomas Brenneck , best known for playing guitar with retro soul Sharon Jones and producing for Daptone. Plus Arthur Verocai did string arrangements and he’s best known for his 1970s work.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 15:46 (four months ago) link

I'm a dummy when it comes to hearing about recent MPB so I'm just the target for the Roge album crossover, I guess.

Chris L, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 16:00 (four months ago) link

xp i will admit that that's compelling evidence for calling this a "retro" project, and i certainly don't mind anyone thinking of it that way

but for whatever reason i think of this basically as excellent MPB (so my 'otm' above was really more about the first part of fpsa's post)

budo jeru, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 16:10 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

Seeing good reviews for film documentary "They Shot the Piano Player" about the life of and disappearance of Brazilian samba/ bossa nova/ jazz pianist Francisco Tenorio Jr on tour in Argentina in 1976 at age 34. Some big name Brazilian musicians are heard in this doc talking about him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQwajCDIwcg

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 16:08 (one month ago) link

yeah, keep meaning to see that

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 17:41 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

https://fabianodonascimento.bandcamp.com/album/ohayou

very chill, not too brazilian vibe tbh, might also work in Ambient/post/nu/new-age jazz - S/D

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 06:50 (one week ago) link

Yeah, he's amazing, got to see him live last year, played solo with some pedals and loopers and such... really beautiful music...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 19:33 (one week ago) link


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