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Certainly this is a non-issue compared to the Boston vs. Providence feud. We here in Providence even have the infamous "Keep Boston Out of Providence" sticker campaign.

Ian Johnson, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 03:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Shear genius, Ian!

BurmaKitty (BurmaKitty), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 03:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, and as far the original threat is concerned, I'd cast my vote for New York. Sonic Youth, The Velvet Underground, Sightings, Swans...

And Boston's got what, the Pixies? Mission of Burma (who really underwhelmed me; I rarely listen to the album of theirs I have [Vs.])? Dinosaur Jr. were from elsewhere in Massachusetts, and they were pretty great for a while, if they count.

Ian Johnson, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 03:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe you should try seeing em live - much different experience than their recordings.

MISSION OF BURMA:

Echo Lounge, Atlanta - Thursday, February 20, 2003
tickets - www.echostatic.com

Nightclub 9:30, Washington, DC - Friday, February 21, 2003
tickets - www.930.com

Theater of the Living Arts, Philadelphia - Saturday, February 22, 2003
tickets - www.ticketmaster.com

can you make any of those shows???

BurmaKitty (BurmaKitty), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 03:50 (sixteen years ago) link

haha "loses points"

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 03:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, let's do the math, shall we?

Off the top of my head, Boston have given us: Boston, the Pixies, Mission of Burma, Throwing Muses, the Lyres, DMZ, the Modern Lovers, the FU's, GangGreen, Slapshot, the Titanics, the Upper Crust, the Mighty Mighty Bosstones, the Clamdiggers, Til Tuesday/Aimee Mann, Leters to Cleo, the Cars and, of course, Aerosmith. I'm sure there are a few I'm forgettin'. Oddly enough, the Standelles -- who sang the garage nugget, "Dirty Water" (featuring the line "Boston You're My Home") were from Los Angeles.

Meanwhile, New York has given us: Kiss, the New York Dolls, the Velvet Underground, Blondie, the Ramones, Television, the Dictators, the Voidoids, Kraut, the Beastie Boys, the Plasmatics, the Cro-Mags, Murphy's Law, the Stimulators, Agnostic Front, Anthrax, the Jim Carroll Band, Patti Smith, D-Generation, Run-DMC, LL Cool J, Cop Shoot Cop, Helmet, Surgery, Swans, Sonic Youth, DNA, Mars, James Chance & the Contortions, Lydia Lunch, Suicide, A.R.E.Weapons, the Strokes, the Rapture, Interpol, Firewater, Skeleton Key, Barkmarket, the Lounge Lizards, The Voluptious Horror of Karen Black, Missing Foundation, King Missile, the Mooneye Suzuki,........

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 03:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Up until a few years ago I can't imagine anybody even posing this question with a straight face re current "working" rock bands. New York's scene was so dire for so long. Some great bands but no scene. There are more good bands now but I still don't think there's a scene.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 04:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Let's see.... I've heard of many bands moving to NYC and get absorbed into that scene but the other way around? NO WAY!

Spil, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link

If this discussion / arguement is going to come down to simply LISTING the bands from each area (with one area being more populated, & being more of a cultural mecca throughout the 20th century), then we should just go ahead, forgo any pretense of common sense, & start a thread comparing NYC bands w/ bands that came out of my ass. In other words, quack quack quack.

But it's nice to see that Alex in you-know-where totally glossed over any Boston band that was formed after 1993ish.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Um, there are like 20x as many people in NY as in Boston.

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 04:09 (sixteen years ago) link

at least!

BurmaKitty (BurmaKitty), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 04:18 (sixteen years ago) link

(Cf. "Shanghai v. Cedar Oaks FITE!")

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 04:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I think it's true toss-up, except Beantown loses points for Aerosmith.

see, today is backwards day

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 05:33 (sixteen years ago) link

The Cars are 45x better than any NY band ever.

Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 05:49 (sixteen years ago) link

boston wins because of NKOTB

JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 05:56 (sixteen years ago) link

The Cars are 45x better than any NY band ever.

The Cars are just Television with synthgoop instead of guitargoop.

(Not that this is a bad thing, by any stretch of the imagination.)

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 06:01 (sixteen years ago) link

The Cars are so grebt, all those arpeggiated guitar lines atop throbbing synths. I heard "My Best Friend's Girl" on the radio today, it sounded real nice.

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 06:11 (sixteen years ago) link

For me it's all about the distinctive harmony sound. It's so thick and impenetrable, and more impressively, it sounds like one voice split four ways.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 06:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm, Boston.
...deja-vu?

Jewish Aboriginy Strobe Light (Jewish Aboriginy Strobe Light), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 07:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I think the only time Boston has pulled ahead of NY was during the brief Boston Not LA period.

Dave Fischer, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 07:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Dave Smalley (Dag Nasty, ALL, Down By Law) is from Boston, so were SSD so that's got to count for something but obviously NY comes out on top.

Maybe a new thread - "Best music producing city" ?!?

CretanBull (CretanBull), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 10:29 (sixteen years ago) link

The best thing I can say about the Cars is that they are not recording anymore. The best thing I can say about the New York scene is New Jersey. Other than that, London wins.

Seven Is Not Four, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 13:19 (sixteen years ago) link

The Throwing Muses were actually a Newport, RI band originally.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Boston gave us Lou Miami and the Kosmetix.
If Lou hadn't OD'd on heroin he would be bigger than Bono right now. Case closed.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Don't forget Evan Dando and Juliana Hatfield!

or on second thought...

Jesse Fox, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, considering, as mentioned earlier, that NYC is not only 10 something times bigger than the metro boston area (very few bands are from "Boston" proper, usually the towns around it, unless Allston = Boston...) and lets also not forget that most people in Boston of band-starting age are transient. They came for college, maybe they'll stay, more than likely they'll go to NYC, where you're "supposed" to move after finishing college in Boston.

and yeah, NYC has been a cultural mecca for musicians and artists and everyone while boston is just where people go to college. not really a fair fight, I say. I like more boston bands than NYC bands though. and I mean bands currently playing/touring, forget the cities' heritage...

tinobeat (tinobeat), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Providence 0\/\/|\|Z

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

"But it's nice to see that Alex in you-know-where totally glossed over any Boston band that was formed after 1993ish."

Well, fuck, man. I don't live in Boston -- shoot me (and probably haven't been there since `93, either....actually it was `95). I'm sure there are great bands comin' outta there. Hang me for not knowin'em, why don'tcha!

For what it's worth, despite being Massholes, I love a lot of Boston bands. I'm not trying to turn this into a grudge match (`cos we'd win....bahahahahahaha). Seriously, who cares where a band is from...so long as they're good?

On a differente note -- not that I'd know about it -- but does Boston have a Hip Hop scene? And if so, have any names sprung from it?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link

"New York's scene was so dire for so long....."

True.

"Some great bands but no scene."

Why is a scene necessarily so important? I mean, yes, a thriving community of like-minded artists can usually only offer great things, but there have been instances of bands developing in a completely isolated, insular environments and producing music of staggering originality, no? Why is "the scene" so lionized?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link

does Boston have a Hip Hop scene? And if so, have any names sprung from it?

Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch?

hstencil, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 18:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, aren't also the following bands from Boston: Lemonheads, Blake Babies, Antietam?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Antietam = New York, by way of Louisville.

hstencil, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 19:07 (sixteen years ago) link

OH MY GOD!

ALEX in NYC got one WRONG!!!

Does this happen often?

I am still new to ILM.

And by the way, Alex, I hope your wife is feeling better :(

BurmaKitty (BurmaKitty), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I am wrong often.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Boston actually has a really vibrant hip hop scene that's been emerging over the past 2-3 years. the big name in masshole hip hop right now is Mr. Lif (you've heard of him, right?), others include Edan and 7L & Esoteric..

check out:
http://www.brickrecords.com/
they're pretty much at the forefront of Boston hip hop.

so yeah, boston's hip hop scene is a bit brighter than the rock scene these days (or at least making more waves outside of boston). too many fuckin bands that would describe themselves as "rawk" so as to lighten the load of actually having ideas. the more tattoos the better. blech..

but here's some really great boston bands that may or may not be known outside of town (I have no way of knowing): The Beatings, Charlene, Lockgroove, Certainly Sir, Soltero, Helms, 27, Suntan, Neptune, Karate, The Ivory Coast, Isis, The Common Cold, The Burning Paris, California Stadium...

that's all I can think of off the top of my head, but there's more.

sure NYC would win a grudge match. what wouldn't NYC win in? its so much bigger and has so much more stuff. I should hope that more great bands would come from NYC than boston. with so many more resources and people, it would be a crying shame if the quality of NY's musical output were to be dwarfed by a much much smaller town.

but like someone said, who cares where a band's from, as long as they're good, right?

tinobeat (tinobeat), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

i think a scene is good because it means instead of just 1 band you like you get like 5 bands you like, because they're hanging out together, helping organize each other's shows, involved with other things in the city, maybe affiliated with zinesters or artists or other people to argue with/impress. given these criteria you can see why I like Providence.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

The real question should be:
Who's got the better pizza? I've heard for the longest time how NYC has the greatest pizza in the world when anyone who's had it from Boston knows the true answer.

Orca, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Who's got the better pizza?

Chicago.

hstencil, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

"instead of just 1 band you like you get like 5 bands you like"

Yeah, but that doesn't mean they're all of the same caliber. I mean, look back at the late 70's CBGB's scene and you have great bands like the Ramones and Blondie....but you also had crap like The Shirts and the Tuff Darts. In Seattle, sure you had Soundgarden, Mudhoney & Nirvana, but you also had Grunttruck and Skin Yard. In prime British Punk London, you had the Pistols, the Damned and the Clash, but you also had fuckin' Subway Sect and Chelsea. Not everyone is a winner.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

ILM has pretty much already established that Los Angeles has produced more truly great bands than any town in the world, ever.

dan (dan), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Who's got the better pizza?
Chicago.

-- hstencil (hstenci...), February 11th, 2003.

Surely you jest! Deep dish? C'mon. Get with it man. If you haven't had a regular slice from Famous Ray's then you haven't lived.

brendan, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link

ILM has pretty much already established that Los Angeles has produced more truly great bands than any town in the world, ever.
-- dan (dregan2...), February 11th, 2003.

I believe this would be a true statement if you subscribe to the theory that the bigger the hair the greater the band.


brendan, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I live in NY, and yes, I've had a regular slice from Famous Ray's.

For those scoring at home, I actually like both Chicago and NY-style pizza.

hstencil, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Tracer Hand: Would I know you from around anywhere? The Olneyville scene, perhaps?

Ian Johnson, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm not sure, Ian, I lived there from 92-96 (kind of pre-Fort-Thunder; the seeds for that were already in place but i wasn't really part of that). I always knew there was some cool shit going down in Olneyville but I never really knew what! i knew a guy who made up his own promotion company called "Pinewood Derby" or something, and he brought The Make-Up and Les Savy Fav and Lightning Bolt and others to the student-run Brown theater space. it was wild! Six Finger Satellite were a Providence band but their attitude seemed more New York; they isolated themselves. though maybe their time had passed somewhat by the time I got there. the times i went to crappy RISD bars and waterfront tents to see Thee Hydrogen Terrors are among my most outstanding memories of rock in any town.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah ha. For some reason I was under the impression you lived there now; guess now, tho. I wasn't into the scene at the same time as you (was a mere youngster at the time) but you'll probably be happy to know that the scene is still amazingly strong/full of life. Dan from Thee Hydrogen Terrors is playing in an awesome band now, Vincebus Eruptum as well as sporadically in Olneyville Sound System.

Ian Johnson, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:55 (sixteen years ago) link

hahahahahaha Olneyville Sound System is like thee gratest name ever! to humor an oldster what is "full of life" about it?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 22:57 (sixteen years ago) link

this has been mentioned but not taken up on -- "transients" -- don't people move to nyc to do things like start bands ? is "from nyc" really true of a lot of nyc bands, or is it just that a band usually achieves recocnition in a place like ny (or chicago, or los angeles)

coming from new zealand i don't understand this, but isn't "coming from new york" different to "based in new york" or "living in new york" or even "formed while in new york" ?

george gosset (gegoss), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

The designation NY band does not necessarily mean they actuallystarted out in NY but usually means they come out of that scene... whatever that means. This can be applied to any other scene ... Boston, Seattle, Providence, Cicero.

Now to the really important stuff... The best pizza in the world is definitely from New Bedford! The second best is, of course, from Bridgewater.

jurassic6, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:23 (sixteen years ago) link

"don't people move to nyc to do things like start bands ? is 'from nyc' really true of a lot of nyc bands"

True, which is why I left out Talking Heads (who ostensibly formed back at Rhode Island School of Design), Television (both Verlaine and Hell were originally from the South), Bad Brains (originally from D.C.) and Pussy Galore (ditto).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 23:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Troll?

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 13 February 2003 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess it is the same kind of person who can't see that it's the same place where there is a rape happening in broad daylight in front of a subway car full of deaf dumb and blind folks every fifteen minutes.

*mutters under breath*

do not feed the troll
do not feed the troll
do not feed the troll

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 13 February 2003 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link

My 2 cents:

From Boston
The Zulu's - overlooked and underrated by everyone who never saw them live.
The Lyres - another phenomenal live band - Cantones, anyone?
Peste
Volcano Suns
Mission Of Burma
The Freeze - Ok, they were from the Cape, but close enough dammit!

From NY
Ramones

Ok - NY wins

Davlo (Davlo), Thursday, 13 February 2003 03:48 (sixteen years ago) link

From NY
Ramones

Ok - NY wins


-- Davlo (daveloe...), February 13th, 2003.

Right on, brother!

Elvis Peacock, Thursday, 13 February 2003 11:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, but give me nineteen hours of shrill, yowling, bowel-clenching Lydia Lunch screaming torture over fuckin' New Edition any goddamn day of the new millenium.
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), February 12th, 2003.


I don't know, Alex... looks like we got a toss up here.

Public Enema Number 1 (Public Enema Number 1), Thursday, 13 February 2003 11:31 (sixteen years ago) link

"...and this is why BOSTON will always beat NY..."
You are obviously on drugs. The real reason why NY will always beat Boston is Katz's delicatessen. Nothing.... I repeat, NOTHING can top their liverwurst pile high on rye with a fresh pickle on the side... except maybe one of their sizzling Reubens with an ice cold Coke!
-- orca, February 11th, 2003.
-----------------------------

Oh, Orca. I did not think I could get much more excited than the imagery of Mission of Burma in close proximity to Famous Ray's, but you had to then bring up KATZ DELICATESSEN!!!!

My goodness, and all the "Send a Salami to Your Boy in the Army" imagery.

Excuse me for a few moments....

BurmaKitty (BurmaKitty), Thursday, 13 February 2003 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

"Send a Salami to Your Boy in the Army"

... sounds like a sound-bite from Cheech and Chong's WEDDING ALBUM.

Public Enema Number 1 (Public Enema Number 1), Friday, 14 February 2003 00:28 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Beantown ain't squat.

illuminati 4, Friday, 11 April 2003 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Boston:
Fat Day, Life Partners / L.A. Drugs / the Twisted Village axis, Come, RRRecords (Lowell MA), the current "free-improv" scene (The BSC, nmperign, Dave Gross, etc), Red Bliss / Kudgel / Madbox, TDS Mob (early Boston hip-hop), Willie Loco...even Sleep Chamber put out a great single early in their career.

Russ (Russ), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Boston has the Dresden Dolls - first local band I can be proud of in awhile.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Boston is an awful city, some decent bands not withstanding.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Blame the college kids: they know they are leaving in 4 years, so they can act like jackrabbit meatbrains.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link

(how did i miss theis thread?)

both places are so so dead right now, unless you count the endless armies of hipster idiots. maybe its just me though, but there was a period in the early 90's when i was going back and forth between the two cities watching band after amazing band.

DRESDEN DOLLS ON JIMMY KIMMEL TONIGHT!

me, i just wanna move to the mountains.

& what sort of fool compares anything to NYC. whats next, 2% milk verus pure uncut heroin? the amazon river versus a puddle of piss?

kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.nba.com/media/celtics/121203Photo_Bird1.jpg

kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

boston doesnt appreciate their good bands so they move away. hence, boston loses to nyc.

jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Larry Bird is from Indiana.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

arent you from indiana?

jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

NOPE. But I am from not too far from French Lick, though.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link

"both places are so so dead right now, unless you count the endless armies of hipster idiots"

Well, the lack of good bands in Boston does give me confidence in my music!

Worchester seems to have a lot of Noize stuff going on.

Also, thanks for the Dresden Dolls tip kephm....

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.sohoweeklynews.com/Book/Music/modern_lovers_on_stage_std.jpg


http://www.twintone.com/scrapbook/photos/richman/dix.jpeg

xpost: stence, is that a joke? no shit

kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link

i didnt know this thread was exclusive to where ones momma broke ones water!!

(sonic youth were from CT(kim), etc, Rapture are from Cali, AND SO ON!)

kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Michael, check out brainwashed.com, its not a boston band site or anything, but its good for local stuff as it is run around here somewhere

kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

TS: Town where your band is formed vs Town where your body is formed

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

um I should say I grew up not too far from French Lick, as Louisville's about an hour or so away.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Kephm, I know of Brainwashed, it is an excellent site.

Forced exposure should open a shop here, or at least merge with Twisted Village.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...
How come a virtually unknown NYC band: The Bravery - managed to get a TV slot on the BBC?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/later/show/index_20041112.shtml

The Bravery
The Bravery are New York's latest coolest band and they're making their TV debut on Later. Their band name & songs are born out of the post 9/11 fear ridden NYC.

Does this band have a reputation back in NYC or they just a bunch of lucky chancers with good management?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

http://jenyk.com/bandphotography/bravery.htm

Seemingly having come out of nowhere, they've pretty much knocked the City upside its unsuspecting head with their four week sold out standing room only residency at Arlene's Grocery

Which says everything, I suppose. I've never heard of them. I'm going to assume they're the kind of bland band that has the right haircuts, get's hyped, get's on Conan and has a record deal before anyone actually listens to the music. Then everyone will forget about them in a year. It happens all the time.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't even think they're from New York either.

danh (danh), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Apparently they are signed to a major label: Island.

Rolling Stone:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/6487762?rnd=1097123339652&has-player=unknown

I heard a Bravery track today on BBC 6 Music sounded a bit generic dancey-punkfunk-rock circa 2002 - like an inferior version of Radio 4.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I heard there demo a few years ago. It was the Strokes with an even more disco bass line. The vocal thought, sounded exactly like Julian. It was more thatn a little creepy.

danh (danh), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I just actually bothered to read through this entire thread. As someone who just moved from Brooklyn to Boston, I find myself trying to play this same game -- I always defend Boston successfully with THE JONZUN CREW and DONNA SUMMER. That shuts em up.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Monday, 8 November 2004 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Seemingly having come out of nowhere, they've pretty much knocked the City upside its unsuspecting head with their four week sold out standing room only residency at Arlene's Grocery.

was that paragraph in fact taken in its entirety from a leftover strokes bio?

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 8 November 2004 23:47 (fifteen years ago) link

You know what's great about that quote there? Unless things have changed since I was there last, a) Arlene's Grocery is entirely "standing room" and b) it doesn't cost anything to get in, "sold out" claims notwithstanding.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Monday, 8 November 2004 23:56 (fifteen years ago) link

actually, arlene's does charge admission at least some of the time these days.

and there are 10 or 12 seats/barstools scattered about, so you've got to bring in AT LEAST A DOZEN PEOPLE before it truly becomes standing room only. do that four times in a row and you too can have a major label deal.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Boston, for me, loses points for the whole tedious Irish routine.

I'm looking at you Dropkick Murphys (and to a lesser extent, House of Pain).

Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 00:27 (fifteen years ago) link

but new york fights back with black 47 and a pint of guinness!

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 00:29 (fifteen years ago) link

but I mean...Arlenes!

fresh from selling out the Lion's Den twice....

last seen filling the Continental to the rafters...

How come I had no idea you moved to Boston?

New York's loss...I saw Terry Riley and Michael Harrison perform for prepared and just intonated pianos in the back of a piano store a few weeks ago. We need more minimalist keyboardists...

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 00:55 (fifteen years ago) link

New York = 8 million people = that many more chances for crap bands who have residencies at Arlene's Grocery to "virtually come out of nowhere"

Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 01:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Was someone in this thread actually defending Boston pizza?

Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 02:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Hmmm, they might've...I mean, because, after all: It's IMPOSSIBLE to get bad pizza in NYC.

Right?

PS, How many noteworthy Boston bands consist of actual Bostonians (or at least Mass. residents) vs. how many noteworthy New York band consist of actual New Yorkers (or at least NY residents)?

nader (nader), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 02:44 (fifteen years ago) link

i like that 'more than a feeling' song by boston.
i don't like that ryan adams song 'new york, new york.'

starc, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 05:53 (fifteen years ago) link

but what about "New York" by the Rentals? Now that's a song.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 06:24 (fifteen years ago) link

hi Dan -- I moved here to Boston this past of August, because the pizza and the music are so much better here.

Oh, and lady got a job here.

I live on the Fung Wah bus these days...

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, and you know,

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf600/f622/f62201ron0b.jpg

is so close to

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf900/f956/f95625eef61.jpg

which, I think it's clear from the illustration, is the finest place for the rock and roll music.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...
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08. The Mystic Underground
09. Platform One

Friday, January 14th

Rare
416 West 14 Street
(between 9th Ave & Washington Street)
212.675.2220
http://www.rare-nyc.com

Also appearing: DJ Volitans and DJ Arimos

CD giveaways courtesy of A Different Drum!

Bands start performing at 8:00 p.m.
Admission: $10 - 18 and over

http://www.lofientertainment.com/parties

For more information on the bands:

Design/Build
http://www.myspace.com/designbuild

Eisdrive
http://zebox.com/eisdrive

In-A-Sense
http://www.angelfire.com/music5/inasense/index.html

Xero/G
http://www.xero-g.net/index.htm

halovox
http://www.halovox.com

Freezepop
http://www.freezepop.com

Brand New Idol
http://www.brandnewidol.com

The Mystic Underground
http://www.themysticunderground.com

Platform One
http://www.platform-one.com

DJ Volitans
http://www.owos.net

DJ Arimos
http://www.arimos.com/


are any of these artists well known in NYC? or worth checking out?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 10 January 2005 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

I thought there was a "This is Boston..."/Boston Hardcore thread but I'm not finding one...

Gang Green reunited last night:
https://www.facebook.com/johnny.mullin/videos/10156776040605822/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 11 January 2019 17:21 (ten months ago) link


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