― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:04 (twenty years ago) link
in no particular order. However, since the Great Sex Crackdown of '01 all sex is prohibited in New York. Many people don't find that out until they get here.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:09 (twenty years ago) link
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:22 (twenty years ago) link
Aaron, yr back?
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:26 (twenty years ago) link
I got to indulgeall my 'welcome back kotter'fantasies therein
made a lot of friendssaw a lot of famous folks"dude! it's eric b.!"
then I moved to Chi.never looked back, even once.now I miss them both.
― Haikunym, Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:27 (twenty years ago) link
Speaking of NYC, I'll be in town from the 25-31st while I'm temporarily homeless. Looks like I'll be moving in December (or May at the very latest, depending on my job situation).
That would make me a sellout for staying longer, and I'm a sellout for moving. Hells yeah!
― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:29 (twenty years ago) link
(xpost I understand what you were getting at, though I kind of like that the champagne room is now my hometown)
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:30 (twenty years ago) link
Tracer, can you email me? I forget yr real addy.
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Mandee, Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:39 (twenty years ago) link
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:39 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:41 (twenty years ago) link
― chris (chris), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:42 (twenty years ago) link
Yanc3y you have email... Kyle, you will have some shortly!
― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:44 (twenty years ago) link
― chris (chris), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Larcole (Nicole), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:53 (twenty years ago) link
Re: MC Bar... Yeah! There's a big Camilo painting of this girl that's dating my friend and all sorts of dumb crap on the walls like "Woodward Avenue" signs. The bartenders were incompetent and it generally sucked, other than for the amusement factor.
― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:55 (twenty years ago) link
There's this place called the West Coast...
More seriously, I have always enjoyed visiting NYC. I would never EVER want to live there. All it takes are a few humid days or a few winter days to remind me why, the rest of y'all are welcome to it.
NA's initial point about the mediacentric nature of the celebration of the spot is well taken, though. World exists beyond the Hudson River shockah! I'd love to see Woody Allen figure out what the hell to do with himself in Missoula.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:57 (twenty years ago) link
The West Coast sucks ass, there are like 4 good things about it.
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:00 (twenty years ago) link
Of course! Me, Noise Noise Noise, Mexican food and all my friends and family. Hurrah!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:03 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:06 (twenty years ago) link
We are so not cool. It's like, you decide to move to New York and struggle and be poor as crap and that's supposed to suddenly make you one of them.
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:08 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:08 (twenty years ago) link
*bows* You must excuse me. This is more a matter of regional differences than schism (as opposed to talking about Mexican food in those states -- and the country itself -- versus anywhere else in the world, but we've been there).
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:10 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:12 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:16 (twenty years ago) link
Why move to NYC and not anywhere else in the world? Is there anything left that's special or unique about NYC that doesn't exist in any other large US city?
― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:18 (twenty years ago) link
Really there's probably nothing more hipster than moving to Brooklyn these days other than doing so while wearing a trucker hat.
When Paul's Boutqiue came out I was fourteen and had it set in my mind then that I *had* to live in NYC. I did move there ten years later but was back in TX in less than two. It was something I had to do, for my own reasons. I'm glad I did but it's not a place I wanted to stay.
Part of me would still love to live in SF b/c I just think it's a fantastic city. But moving is a pain in the ass and any move away from TX would just be temporary for me so why bother?
― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:19 (twenty years ago) link
omg, i totally forgot about that Beware the Boys song. I just started playing it and we are dying laughing.
― Yerac, Saturday, 13 April 2019 00:42 (four years ago) link
This is what happens when I just skim these threads. I should maybe re-read it at some point.
treeship, what happened?
― Yerac, Saturday, 13 April 2019 00:44 (four years ago) link
NA you ought to be glad you're rid of such shallow people.― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, August 7, 2003 10:03 AM (fifteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeeowch
― Nick Chiveon (rip van wanko), Saturday, 13 April 2019 00:47 (four years ago) link
i'm just whining. the proximate cause of my problem is some transit nightmare and then a horrible cab driver who drove in circles for a half hour before finding the williamsburg bridge. but in general, i've felt worn down by the work culture at my job and also i find that when i'm in the city--especially manhattan--i feel this kind of constant, low level anxiety and i'm sick of it
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 13 April 2019 00:49 (four years ago) link
xp
yeah treesh I wish you'd expound. I started a "is NYC dead?" thread a few months ago and I remember you being a bit critical of city life then, too. Genuinely curious which aspects get to you the most.xp
― Nick Chiveon (rip van wanko), Saturday, 13 April 2019 00:50 (four years ago) link
what's the root of the anxiety?
― Nick Chiveon (rip van wanko), Saturday, 13 April 2019 00:51 (four years ago) link
Manhattan has too many tourists, too many people. I used to get anxiety having to tell a cab driver to take me to wburg so I always preferred to take the train. I like NYC but I never miss it when I am away. (except for the food and being able to pet lots of dogs).
xpost I think this thread started (by NA) right after that big FAP in NYC over the fourth of July. I wonder what happened.
― Yerac, Saturday, 13 April 2019 00:54 (four years ago) link
xp i think i just wasn't made to be in that close proximity to that many strangers every day. which is a shitty thing to say, but i think it's true.
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 13 April 2019 00:55 (four years ago) link
obviously weekends in williamsburg, greenpoint and fort greene (my haunts) are great. but even then, i sometimes wish i just lived somewhere more anonymous.
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 13 April 2019 00:56 (four years ago) link
if i could work in brooklyn i think i would be happier. something about subway commuting just feels like i am descending into hell every morning.
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 13 April 2019 00:57 (four years ago) link
You should move to Queens. I felt a lot more relaxed after a decade in williamsburg, even though I was living in a really lowkey area anyway. Some Canadian who had just moved to williamsburg once told me that he loved the L Train because it was like a cocktail party. The trains are terrible.
― Yerac, Saturday, 13 April 2019 00:59 (four years ago) link
I worked in Brooklyn a couple of times. For 2-3 years I could walk to work easily. It was soooo amazingly great to never have real need to go into the city.
― Yerac, Saturday, 13 April 2019 01:01 (four years ago) link
that's a good tip. yeah, maybe i should just prioritize "working in brooklyn" when i look for new jobs. it seems strange but it might make a huge difference. it truly is manhattan that i dislike--it feels like a giant mall, but like one where they locked the doors at night on black friday so everyone is trapped inside.
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 13 April 2019 01:07 (four years ago) link
I don't even know what you do but quitting jobs is one of my passions.
― Yerac, Saturday, 13 April 2019 01:23 (four years ago) link
yerac someday i would like to see a list of all the places you've lived
definitely feeling the nyc tiresomeness lately
― mookieproof, Saturday, 13 April 2019 01:32 (four years ago) link
Technically my place of residence has been in nyc since the early 2000s.
― Yerac, Saturday, 13 April 2019 01:36 (four years ago) link
nyc is for BUYERS
I am outta time here
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 April 2019 01:52 (four years ago) link
treesh otm new york sucks
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 April 2019 01:53 (four years ago) link
and a lot of my recurring anxieties here are commuting on the subway-related too
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 April 2019 01:54 (four years ago) link
morbs, are you really leaving?
― Yerac, Saturday, 13 April 2019 01:55 (four years ago) link
The subway is so brittle. I was working last fall for a couple of months with a terrible commute and it distinctly would change once some event like the start of school or a cold snap happened. I would leave almost 45 minutes ahead of time so I could just read and not stress.
― Yerac, Saturday, 13 April 2019 01:58 (four years ago) link
NYC sucks for sure. I lived in Brooklyn for a while 25+ years ago and it sucked then. I’m happy as hell living in Jersey and only going into NYC once or twice a month (tonight being one of those times).
― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 13 April 2019 01:59 (four years ago) link
Yerac I am literally 3-4 months from running out of money, at which point I will either move into my friend's basement, start living on credit, or go to my sister's in CT.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 April 2019 02:09 (four years ago) link
yeah but is it a new kind of suck, it the old, classic hectic/stressful/loud/lonely kind of suck. did it suck less, say, in the 90s?
― Nick Chiveon (rip van wanko), Saturday, 13 April 2019 02:10 (four years ago) link
(first 'it' should be 'or', sorry)
Some things were bad in the '90s, but you could live here alone if you weren't an investment banker.
The primary new drawbacks (aside from nearly every bar/institution/eatery I liked in 1995 being gone) are the deterioration of mass transit and millions of phone-staring morons impeding my walking.
The cinema choices are better than ever, however.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 April 2019 02:14 (four years ago) link
don't live on credit. It will will be even more impossible after. Take the kindness of friends or your sister.
― Yerac, Saturday, 13 April 2019 02:20 (four years ago) link
xpost i just found after the fact that enid's closed. I didn't completely love it but now it makes sense why people have been talking about that camel for the last couple of weeks.
― Yerac, Saturday, 13 April 2019 02:21 (four years ago) link
The phone staring morons are everywhere.
but it matters more when the byways are mobbed.
I would die of boredom in CT inside a year.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 April 2019 02:25 (four years ago) link
i remember elvis telecom, some years ago, remarking on how there was less jaywalking in nyc than he'd remembered. but it was Because of the Phones
― mookieproof, Saturday, 13 April 2019 02:27 (four years ago) link
I’m happy as hell living in Jersey
― calstars, Saturday, 13 April 2019 02:53 (four years ago) link
xpost Nothing is permanent. Live in CT for 3 months, 6 months, 2 years. Regroup, get well. It will be a blip after it's over.
― Yerac, Saturday, 13 April 2019 03:10 (four years ago) link
it's hard for me to square my concern for morbs with my desire for him to learn how to drive
― mookieproof, Saturday, 13 April 2019 03:13 (four years ago) link
Full disclosure: i was lookin to leave this year but i started seeing someone who is incredible. That’s the only reason I’m sticking around for now.
Maybe if I took a job in a less trend-driven industry i wouldn’t feel as aggressively “in new york” as i do now and i could kinda relax about it. There is a sense in which nyc feels like the center of the action, and some people really thrive on that, but i haaaaaaaaaaate that aspect. I just want to be.
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 13 April 2019 03:29 (four years ago) link
However, the universe conspired to bring me here, as it didnyears ago to bring me to ilx, and i’ve met amazing people in nyc and learned a lot of (sometimes painful) lessons and maybe i should just trust
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 13 April 2019 03:33 (four years ago) link
morbs' birthday is coming up
let us fap
― mookieproof, Saturday, 13 April 2019 03:45 (four years ago) link
it's a lose-lose
I have been maladapted to New England for 14 years now, I still feel most at home and most comfortable in nyc and try to get down as often as possible, as I will next weekend, but I know I could probably no longer endure the kind of loneliness-in-a-crowd that it can impose when living there
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 13 April 2019 03:47 (four years ago) link
how there was less jaywalking in nyc than he'd remembered. but it was Because of the Phones
I wish they'd keep jaywalking, it would cull the herd.
mook if I learned to drive someone would die really quickly.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 April 2019 06:21 (four years ago) link
my birthday falls on Easter Sunday this year, and it's amazing how many of my heathen NY friends are leaving town to eat ham or whatever
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 April 2019 06:32 (four years ago) link
i lived in indiana for a decade, depression is much deadlier than boredom
i can also personally attest that it's possible to be a very bad driver for a very long time and not kill anybody
it's been a long time since i've been to nyc, but i've felt that loneliness-in-a-crowd thing everywhere i've lived!
― Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Saturday, 13 April 2019 10:19 (four years ago) link
Morbs I had forgotten this! Me
Me too! 4/21
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 13 April 2019 10:36 (four years ago) link
i will put in a vote for non-hipster brooklyn. i get the cemetery and prospect park and some old neighborhood shit and no bars. it's nice.morbs, you share a birthday with bridget everett!i would do an ilx hang; it's been a very long time.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 13 April 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link
https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/07/18/have-you-seen-this-pedestrian-terror
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 19 July 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link
glad i lost my hair or i might've been pulled in for questioning
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 July 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link