― anthony, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
ps I have still not seen clockwork orange or red desert, but as these are the definitive make-or-break items in each case, i am reluctant to do so: if they are bad, then where does that leave these alleged genii?
Of course they both haf zero sense of humour: is this the problem?
― mark s, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― nathalie, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Antonioni's 'ideas' - that alienation can be a beautiful thing. Or, objects and landscapes can be more interesting than people, and that we can have 'relationships' w/spaces, architecture, colours.
― Andrew L, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Eyes Wide Shit more like.
― DavidM, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Pennysong Hanle y, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
having relationships w.colours not ppl = a good direction for mark s possibly sigh
― nathalie, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
What I got was Tom Cruise smugging the camera for THREE HOURS. "Eyes Wide Shut" can eat me. Had Tom been edited out of it, it would have been an infitely better movie. Hell, chopping out an hour of meandering would have made it a better movie. It tried so hard to be surreal that it ended up being ass.
― Dan Perry, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Nick, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Anyone see the Kubrick doco's on the last week. Woody Allen on Dr Strangelove was very interesting, saying that it wasn't as funny as it should be as Sellars stretched himself too much and Kubrick had no real sense of timing. Interesting.
― Pete, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― mark s, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Of the Kubrick movies I've seen, the best is CLEARLY "A Clockwork Orange". That's the only one with any real sense of pacing. "The Shining" has some brilliant moments in it, too. Haven't seen "Full Metal Jacket" or "Lolita" and I can't remember "Dr. Strangelove".
― Daniel Cross, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Dan Perry, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― dan, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
also, it is one of the funniest movies i've ever seen
― bc, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― anthony, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Sorry, just had to get that off my chest. Haven't seen Eyes Wide Shut, actually.
― Justyn Dillingham, Sunday, 30 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
kubrick's is ruined by peter sellers mainly: haha i tht lyne's worked bettah becuz the day i am sympathetic to jeremy irons is the day i exfoliate my legs w.nitric acid!!
― mark s, Sunday, 30 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― david h(owie), Sunday, 30 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
I think Kubrick is very humorous. EWS = essentially a comedy, as noted above. In fact, I would say most of Kubrick's movies are in some way humorous. Antonioni is mostly insufferable, except for L'avventura, which is a masterpiece.
As for Kubrick being great, what does it take for a director to be great? One great film? Kubrick has two: Barry Lyndon and 2001.
― ryan, Sunday, 30 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
but I haven't seen the a bird->a plane and don't know why it happens.
― RJG, Sunday, 30 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
i quite like the bit where hal is killing the boring spacemen, but sadly the wrong robot wins
― RickyT, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew L, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
i like the weird glow he gave new york: nicole k is pretty good too, tho shelly duval is still the only woman SK actually ever met, i think (except for his daughter who wants a bushbaby)
― mark s (mark s), Monday, 11 November 2002 22:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― boxcubed (boxcubed), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 01:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 03:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
haha yes mark see lolita again - surely some new level of meaning to be gleaned there, as you must be about the kid's age by now
― jones (actual), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 22:16 (nineteen years ago) link
i’m sure ol’ stan was a frustrating guy to work for at times but “i had to walk through a doorway a bunch of times” is not exactly a chilling tale of directorial tyranny run rampant
for some reason i thought this was the kubrick film mark s thought was good!
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link
barry lyndon is the one that IS good (implausibly good)
― mark s, Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link
how odd. that's not the one I think is his good one. one of us must be wrong!
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link
barry lyndon is truly awesome but come on eyes wide shut is a dream!!!!
keitel: he made me walk through a door 68 times
me: sounds like a kubrick movie
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link
I would guess this dumbass hasn't seen Paths Of Glory.
― billstevejim, Sunday, 15 May 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link
me? no
― mark s, Sunday, 15 May 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link
im not going to either
― mark s, Sunday, 15 May 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link
No director should demand anything of an actor with the range of Winston Wolfe to Arkansas State Police Detective Hal Slocumb.
― gonna make you sweat the technique, gonna make you groove is in the heart (PBKR), Sunday, 15 May 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link
lol this is disgusting
people on side kubrick re: this topic need some perspective
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Sunday, 15 May 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link
I just watched the Cannibal Holocaust ep of Cursed Films, and from that perspective, yeah, team Kubrick
― Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Sunday, 15 May 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link
not sure which film I had a worse time in the cinema watching, eyes wide shut or a.i., I think the eyes have it.
― buffalo tomozzarella (ledge), Sunday, 15 May 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link
I’ve heard pollack somewhere make basically the same complaint about doing that role, but iirc his attitude was more “this is confusing and annoying but it still beats working”
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Sunday, 15 May 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link
I can easily envision Keitel in that role--he'd probably lose some of Pollack's superficial slickness, otherwise he would have been a good fit.
― clemenza, Sunday, 15 May 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/yL9TPI4.jpg
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link
that's how they made half of The Mandalorian iirc
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link
eyes wide shut needed more baby yoda
― mark s, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link
False, Mandalorian needed more of Tom Cruise getting gay-bashed
― Eric H., Wednesday, 26 October 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link
😱
― mh, Thursday, 27 October 2022 01:30 (one year ago) link
Quite a piece which deploys the book (and film) a bit
I rarely write personal essays, but this time I did, about the stickiest of all conversations we might have with our significant others.https://t.co/xJdBYFL4sJ— Megan Abbott (@meganeabbott) June 2, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 June 2023 14:40 (nine months ago) link
You Must Remember This is coming to the end of its Erotic 80s/90s seasons and I believe is wrapping it up with a two-parter on EWS. First episode is up:
https://www.youmustrememberthispodcast.com/episodes/eyes-wide-shut-part-1-erotic-90s-part-20
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 17:29 (five months ago) link
Honestly, give her the Peabody
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 17:30 (five months ago) link
Rather!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 17:38 (five months ago) link
one of the least erotic film about sex I know
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 18:29 (five months ago) link
*s
Sex itself is, I think, pretty low on the list of things this movie's about but ymmv
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 18:38 (five months ago) link
really? “let’s fuck”?
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 19:15 (five months ago) link
The last line of the picture, and it’s just “Fuck.” (And it’s a punchline.)
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 19:41 (five months ago) link
okay well i mean don’t be coy the idea idea that eyes wide shut isn’t about sex is an unusual one you have to admit, say more
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:10 (five months ago) link
I'd say it's about the fear of sex?
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:11 (five months ago) link
It's "We fuck" isn't it?
― ...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:17 (five months ago) link
"You know, there is something very important that we need to do as soon as possible""What's that?""Fuck"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOHvgvRVCDo
― Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:26 (five months ago) link
Schooled!
― ...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:30 (five months ago) link
The podcast is a treasure obviously but I forgot how Longworth hits all her “t”s “EroTic eighTies” .. frankly it’s not just that, her whole Chef John intonation drives me to distraction. but i will listen for the info :)
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 12:01 (five months ago) link
She veers very very close to Moira Rose territory
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 13:03 (five months ago) link
It’s been driving me crazy all day just needed to share
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 13:04 (five months ago) link
Her delivery has definitely gotten more arch and affected over the years, to the point that if you’re not highly invested in the content, it’s practically unlistenable
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 13:06 (five months ago) link
She used to get criticised a lot online for not ennunciating properly and has overcorrected. Can't win.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 13:10 (five months ago) link
― calstars, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 13:19 (five months ago) link
It's close enough to an incantatory delivery that I look forward to listening
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 13:37 (five months ago) link
(Which means it'll be a good match for Kubrick)
Roffle. I roll with it, it's fine! Met her years ago well before the podcast started, she's a good sort.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:34 (five months ago) link
If you join her patreon you can get transcripts, for those of you here who find it so horrible TO HEAR A WOMAN SPEAK.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:36 (five months ago) link
I've always liked her delivery. She also has a very wry sense of humor.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:39 (five months ago) link
I haven't given her podcast the attention it deserves. I'm streaming the sex, lies and videotape ep.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:41 (five months ago) link
The series she did on Polly Platt and the one on Dead Blondes were especially good.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:43 (five months ago) link
if you don't have the 2.5 hours free to watch EWS then just watch the video for Laura Branigan's "Self Control" which is the same plot and many of the same shots but is like 5 minutes long, predates EWS by 15 years and has a really cool song over it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZtn9AwgfQQ― jed_, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 01:31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZtn9AwgfQQ
― jed_, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 01:31
lmao otm
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 4 November 2023 23:11 (four months ago) link