Silicon Valley Techno-Utopianism

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true, there are multiple stripes of badness here

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link

yeah they're big on how little they agree on things (while the prof left is a huge monolith of conformity etc etc)

goole, Thursday, 22 May 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

*prog left

goole, Thursday, 22 May 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link

yeah, unified front on the left, for sure

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

" don't really want utopianism but embrace what seems like a blade runner world without the chinese people. "

some of these guys really like the chinese state! land in particular

right, I think Singapore, Hong Kong are the promising models for some of them - and from what I've seen the "racial realism" end of the dark enlightenment/mencius moldbug crowd throw around NAM as an acronym for the ppl they want out of their dictatorships – "non-asian minorites"

woof, Thursday, 22 May 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link

they are other-ing the hell out of people, aren't they?

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

i'd be more willing to discount it if these weren't people with money, political fever dreams, and the ability to build & destory things

― purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, May 22, 2014 3:11 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This seems completely otm to me – techno-libertarianism maybe has the money, connections, technical accomplishment, power to fuck up a lot of the decent bits of the state & society in the future. Probably just enough of those things to implement a really miserable, corrupt and half-arsed version of its Utopia in a muddled alliance with the old right.

woof, Thursday, 22 May 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link

To be clear: techno-libertarian utopia = shit, robot cars, people starving on the streets; half-arsed version = probably even shitter, robot car companies sueing the starving people they run over on the streets.

woof, Thursday, 22 May 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link

techno-montessori schools?

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 22 May 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link

kids making their own beats at their own pace, discovering new filters

j., Thursday, 22 May 2014 22:59 (nine years ago) link

808fasciststate

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 22 May 2014 23:01 (nine years ago) link

ok, i take it back, it's all ok if Thiel is like

http://www.me.gr/m/photos/get_image/file/c4a5ed918dd0eb0c058b5cfa95afc85d.jpg

woof, Thursday, 22 May 2014 23:06 (nine years ago) link

forwarded this link with subject: "smug silicon valley shits want to create a randian/fascist utopia" which is pretty much all i can really think to say about this

building a desert (art), Thursday, 22 May 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link

what is that gatefold from??

display name changed. (amateurist), Saturday, 24 May 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link

prodigy - music for the jilted generation

brimstead, Saturday, 24 May 2014 01:00 (nine years ago) link

I think there's something about the combination of ego inflation AND deflation that they experience -- one world telling them they are geniuses and another telling them they are losers at the same time

Interestingly enough the thesis of Amy Chua's follow-up book was that this combo was at the root of Jewish-Chinese greatness

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 24 May 2014 01:29 (nine years ago) link

on second thought that's not actually that interesting

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 24 May 2014 01:29 (nine years ago) link

i, for one, welcome our asshole-technofascist overlords.

playback in metal position (Hunt3r), Saturday, 24 May 2014 02:36 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://recode.net/2014/03/15/marc-andreessens-latest-tweetathon-naughty-fun-leads-to-ruined-lives-in-anonymous-apps/

this ding-dong has this sweet new bulleted point twitter rant style that seems pretty indicative of the dystopian trend

a strange man (mh), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 13:57 (nine years ago) link

eleven months pass...

This may not be the right place if you:

already seen this list republished about twenty times on twitter

ultimate american sock (mh), Thursday, 14 May 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link

is that a suggestion to add to their list?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 14 May 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link

hah, sure!

ultimate american sock (mh), Thursday, 14 May 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link

Could you live in Startup Castle?

but this is a good place for it as well

sleeve, Thursday, 14 May 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link

oh sorrry yeah

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 14 May 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIxGwLRWcAAnWLt.jpg

goole, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link

haha omg

Upright Mammal (mh), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link

let's not get trolled by the SeekingArrangement dude, come on

the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

barf

ΞΌpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link

dude needs an ascot and a pipe to really complete the full elitist WASPy asshole picture

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

yet *another* article about these guys:

http://www.theawl.com/2015/09/good-luck-to-human-kind

really good too

goole, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 22:29 (eight years ago) link

funny enuf this came out today too (have not read)

http://www.vox.com/2015/9/29/9411117/silicon-valley-politics-charts

goole, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link

wait what's that pancake machine tho

go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 01:25 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

Somesaid Paul Graham was full of shit but I wasn't totally sure yet, but now I get it.

viborg, Tuesday, 5 January 2016 10:22 (eight years ago) link

startups are good

startups create inequality

therefore inequality is good

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 13:53 (eight years ago) link

'attack poverty' ok

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 15:55 (eight years ago) link

Kinder shows you what expression is on your child's face so you don't have to look at it.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 16:08 (eight years ago) link

is there inequality where you live? shock and awe the problem with one of our poverty seeking opportunity bombs

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 17:12 (eight years ago) link

remember when pg lived in cambridge and wrote lisp for a living

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link

yeah this is actually good http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/paulgraham/jmc.ps

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 20:40 (eight years ago) link

Not sure what thread this belongs in...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/17/magazine/the-happiness-code.html?_r=0

I agree with the basic premise of self improvement methods here. But wow these people seem insufferable. All optimization of systems and practices of extreme rationality should be performed in the privacy of ones own home and not shacked up with a bunch of tech bros shoving their hands in your leftover curry.

Jeff, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 14:49 (eight years ago) link

Is Soylent involved?

Professor Goodfeels (kingfish), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 15:18 (eight years ago) link

Asher is a singing, freestyle rapping, former international Quidditch All-American turned software engineer.

art, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 15:26 (eight years ago) link

yea nytimes is very obsessed w/ silly lifestyles of tech bros, this is like one of a dozen pieces in the past few years

marcos, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 15:33 (eight years ago) link

This is the problem though

Last year, President Obama established a Social and Behavioral Sciences Team at the White House; based on its findings, he recently ordered federal agencies to use behavioral-economics strategies to improve participation in their programs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiz_Kids_(Department_of_Defense)

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 00:57 (eight years ago) link

I have some "visions of the future" type book I got at a book sale that is a publication of the RAND corporation from the 70s, I need to dig that out

ΞΌpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 01:02 (eight years ago) link

This administration has been really receptive to basically any techbro idea that isn't total political poison on its face; while that doesn't inevitably lead to SecDef Zuckerberg leading us into a war that his algorithms tell us we can win because science, it does make me increasingly uncomfortable for about a zillion other reasons and the presumptive 45th POTUS doesn't seem to have any interest in changing course

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 01:06 (eight years ago) link

also seriously is there nobody around to point out that this shit is Esalen All Over Again or is that just understood and accepted because it's California, dude?

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 01:08 (eight years ago) link


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