How many times is Godzilla going to be rebooted? 2014 edition

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Yeah, Aaron Taylor-Johnson plays the lead. Such a weirdly disinterested hero. It's like nothing affects him; the death of his father, rampaging behemoths, nothing. I'm pretty sure he gets loads of people killed, too.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link

All 3 generations of Godzilla suit wearers walking down the street together

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoNdSBaIUAAGiwE.jpg

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link

<3 <3 <3 awesome

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 May 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link

and yeah they could have replaced the lead actor with a spoon and it would have been better

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 May 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

I really liked him in that Anna Karenina movie with Keira Knightly, but maybe that role was better suited for him.

ryan, Thursday, 22 May 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link

I have such sympathy for Mr Veg.

How long do you think Ken Watanabe has known his US career would involve Gojira at some point?

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 May 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 May 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link

it's weird to me that they played the non-Godzilla stuff so blandly (unless there's some meta level to it I'm missing). you've got Godzilla in your movie, there's really no way you can build the "human" story around him in a way that's gonna dampen ticket sales. why not take some small risks at least?

ryan, Thursday, 22 May 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link

how dare you sir. they studied Jaws very carefully what more do you want?

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 22 May 2014 18:50 (nine years ago) link

Yeah Fort was really bland, by design it seemed

, Friday, 23 May 2014 01:27 (nine years ago) link

I finally got around to seeing this, with my daughter. Several thoughts, perhaps addressed above by others, by I'd been avoiding the thread til I saw it:

The good:

1) Love that they made Godzilla an unabashed good guy. My daughter's reaction, pretty much, was "Aw, he's a nice guy after all!"
2) Some of the shots were oddly beautiful
3) Some of the things that made me like "Monsters" were ported over directly to this. A quarantine zone, the notion of the monsters just going about their business while the people freak out, even the notion, iirc, of the monsters mating ritual being the thing that freaks people out.
4) The Godzilla design was great, a strong update of the model.
5) Nice nods to the franchise, from the Mothra in a tank to the requisite antipathy for trains and bridges.

The bad:

1) Not enough Godzilla. Dude is so lazy in this, just taking his time getting to the bad guys, swimming away. That was half the movie. More than half.
2) A great, great cast, all but wasted by making them stick to repetitive, seconds-eating reaction shots. Cranston might by chewing the screen off, but while he's there at least he livens things up. Ken Watanabe and Sally Hawkins, let alone Binoche, for major, respected actors, have next to nothing to do but stare. The cast of "Pacific Rim" was more colorful (in every sense).
3) Soooo many shots of some mass slowly approaching and filling the screen. Smoke, dust, light, water. I know this is par, but again, felt super repetitive. I saw it in 2D, but maybe 3D would have made this stuff worth while?
4) The fact that despite the huge budget, and all the potential, and, come on, the more or less foolproof formula of giant monsters destroy city, this movie echoed bits of previous movies that let people down, for the same reasons. Like the egg stuff, from the last shit Godzilla reboot. Or (literally) backgrounding so much of the action in favor of people and their not compelling story, like "Pacific Rim." If anything, they spent too much time on the writing and felt the need to have their A+ actors just talk, even though said talk advanced the story not one bit and in fact slowed everything down to a portentous crawl.

Monsters" worked (imo) as an under the radar cult film driven by some DIY invention and an original story, but the things that made "Monsters" interesting - slow pace, foregrounding the people and backgrounding the monsters, given the monsters a strange sort of primordial innocence - have no place in a $180 million dollar Godzilla movie.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 May 2014 13:42 (nine years ago) link

yeah i wonder what a non-mega budget studio version of godzilla directed by him might have been like. obviously no one would ever greenlight that, but id like to see him make more monster movies, just not through hollywood studios.

StillAdvance, Sunday, 25 May 2014 09:06 (nine years ago) link

um idk if you're serious but he did make one? It's called "Monsters" - it's how he got the Godzilla gig.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 May 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link

um i know and ive seen that already, im just wondering if hes better suited to somewhere between indie and tentpole

StillAdvance, Sunday, 25 May 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link

ok sorry didnt mean to be a dick

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 May 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

Isn't he doing a Star Wars movie now?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 May 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link

This Godzilla would have been a perfect vehicle for his talents had Godzilla not spent 3/4 of the movie swimming across the ocean. It's called Godzilla. No need for a slow, dramatic reveal. We know the drill. It's Godzilla. Make him fight monsters.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 May 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link

one shot of him swimming then cut to one of those dotted maps like in Bugs Bunny or Indiana Jones

now you have 30 more minutes of monstertime

problem solved! next

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 May 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link

I really liked San Francisco as Boschian hellscape -- the sequence where the paratroopers drop into it over Ligeti wailing with their red flares trailing like streams of blood is pretty great. And i guess they agree since they put that on all the posters.

Also thought this got the massive heft and weight of giant monster fighting better than Pacific Rim; kaiju in the latter were a bit too fast and agile, which kind of subtly undermined the sense of scale, that these are like skyscrapers come to life

anonanon, Monday, 26 May 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link

I already forget, why did that one monster fly from Japan to San Fran? To get to the other monster? Wasn't it near Vegas? You'd think Los Angeles would have been a more centrally located destruction zone.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 May 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

Lol no bldgs to destroy in LA. What are they gonna do, take a schvitz in the port?

Οὖτις, Monday, 26 May 2014 20:27 (nine years ago) link

Godzilla 2: Schvitz in the Port

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Monday, 26 May 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link

They could have at least had a mutant monster emerge from the tar pits.

There are a few bldgs to destroy in LA, but yeah, it wouldn't take long. Not that San Fran is some huge towering metropolis.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 00:07 (nine years ago) link

Well, we have bridges

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 00:34 (nine years ago) link

They should have had them fight in the redwoods, which surely would have illustrated the shock of mass destruction in a more personal way than all that empty steel and glass. People would be wincing at them destroying trees as old as they are.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 00:37 (nine years ago) link

i thought this was pretty good.

too bad about the main bro being such a nothing.

goole, Sunday, 1 June 2014 23:54 (nine years ago) link

The airdrop scene is so amazing, wanted the entire film to be like that. When the monster is supposed to be some sort of primordial God, then the pictures has better be sublime, and they just weren't. The scene going into the quarantined zone especially needed to be much more striking, this is nature winning over civilization, this is the thematic point of the film, SHOW IT. But nah, some bugs, and then father and son arguing.

Still, liked it for what it was. Just not as much as I'd hoped I would.

Frederik B, Monday, 2 June 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link

^^ OTM

resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 2 June 2014 00:34 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

saw the original gojira at a local theater last night. kind of a revelation. certainly the darkest and most genuinely affecting monster movie i've ever seen.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 19 June 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

right?!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 June 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link

loved the scene on the subway where someone says something like 'i survived nagasaki just to go through this?'

kind of expected it to be a fun curio but it's a legitimately great film, crazy to think it was eclipsed here by the raymond burr-ized version for so many years.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 19 June 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link

gojira/godzilla's death is also really really sad, which is all the more effective somehow because they didn't do what every other monster movie does and try to make him the 'hero.' the whole underwater sequence is gorgeous and devastating.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 19 June 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link

the love triangle seems kinda rmde early on but it totally pays off at the end

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 June 2014 19:53 (nine years ago) link

KING of the MONSTERS...

...SAVIOR of the CITY?!?!?!?!?!

(saw this tonight with GB and dug it quite a bit. There may have been fist-pumping at the "We call him..." line.)

Pono For Pyros (zero of the signified), Sunday, 22 June 2014 05:23 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i kinda wished the movie was entirely about godzilla and his friends and no human characters

― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:57 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This was also how I felt about the new Apes movie. Maybe the solution is to have a Godzilla vs Planet of the Apes, with no people at all.

(Took the kids to see this at the discount theater today, is why the thread revive. We were all bored by the people-talking parts, but enjoyed the battles. Totally agree that it's more a natural disaster movie than a monster movie.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 19 July 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link

Saw this a month ago with my son and he's been obsessed with all things Godzilla since then. He's watched every bit of Godzilla video he could find on Netflix and YouTube and has lectured me at length about what a travesty the 1998 film was despite never having seen it so far.

odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Saturday, 19 July 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link

your son otm

your son ILX

boney tassel (sic), Sunday, 20 July 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

really really hate this trend of b-movie seriousification. especially when it's visually so bland and grey.

nauru, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

The Bryan Cranston half of this is a tremendous boat anchor to the anonymously good monster fighting to come. I suppose I liked it but I'm not in any hurry to see a follow-up - unlike Pacific Rim and those wacky early 2000 movies like Godzilla Final Wars, Tokyo SOS, etc.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 04:17 (nine years ago) link

Oh man, just the other day I was like "hey, I just remembered there's going to be a new Godzilla reboot, when's it coming out?" and it seems the answer is "Five months ago."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 04:27 (nine years ago) link

Godzilla/Kaiju Halloween party happening at my house this weekend. My son is going to be Ultraman, I'll be Dr. Serizawa, and my wife and her sister will be Mothra fairies.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 12:55 (nine years ago) link

wow!

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 October 2014 01:45 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

This... was pretty good! Surprised they actually put this much effort into it, especially in terms of world building and backstory. Great twists to make Mothra (erm M.U.T.O.) the villain and make Godzilla the hero. Thought the movie looked and sounded amazing overall.
Cranston casting did lift the movie way higher than it would've been otherwise.
Watanabe was hilariously one note, cast only to deliver one great line - "LET THEM FIGHT."

Nhex, Sunday, 4 January 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link

This... was not pretty good! Loads of unnecessary characters to not care about, scenery chewing acting, generally dumb plot. Well filmed tho'.

shmup....smug....shmub....shmug.... (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 18 January 2015 02:32 (nine years ago) link

really really hate this trend of b-movie seriousification. especially when it's visually so bland and grey.
― nauru, Wednesday, August 27, 2014

very very otm

shmup....smug....shmub....shmug.... (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 18 January 2015 02:33 (nine years ago) link

Watched this last night. Think I would have enjoyed it a lot but holy shit it was too dark. Like, all I'm looking at is a black screen with occasional splotches of light and shadow flashing across it. A good percentage of the movie I just couldn't tell what was going on at all. Could have been so much more.

how's life, Sunday, 25 January 2015 12:24 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

thought this was really fuckin good tbh

thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Monday, 1 June 2015 01:25 (eight years ago) link

good score

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 1 June 2015 01:42 (eight years ago) link


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