In Praise (or Not) of Chantal Akerman

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Been to the last two screenings of the Chantal Akerman season and going again tonight.

Didn't know this but she is going to be there!

http://www.ica.org.uk/whats-on/nos-amours-chantal-akerman-9-un-jour-pina-demand%C3%A9-l%E2%80%99homme-%C3%A0-la-valise

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 May 2014 13:35 (nine years ago) link

Akerman gave a brief intro to the films but in between came back for a Q&A which didn't seem pre-planned (the ICA had to get a microphone ready). She was moved by the applause at the beginning an like to think she wanted to give sometime for people to ask anything. It sorta started as a talk on what Pina Bausch was like and how the doc was made, then went into "well I am not going to be here after my next film is shown as I want to sleep so if you'd like to ask anything then its now or never...you don't have to, sometimes its better not to say anything"

There were three questions but they were basically interrupted (good on the first one which was just a v dry question about where does performance start and end that you could never pin her down to -- too much of an attempt to reveal a method -- its interesting that the question's phrasing may sound as precise as her images but they miss all the colour and sense of humour present that are such a big part of her films...for the most part) as she started giving a riff on a theme about half-way through, because her English is at 70% they were kinda half-replies half-rants that would go to funny places. When she talked about how she needed to do different things after Jeanne Dielman it was all "I could've stopped...but not like Rimbaud where I could've been a drug dealer, or sell slaves" (!)

I loved how she talked about Pina -- Akerman was very honest and open at how the beauty she first saw in her choreography turned to anger as she gradually uncovered the sadistic side, involving sinister manipulation of the people in her company -- its something you see on Wenders' film through interviews but here its shown via a series of rehearsals for scenes flowing through performances on stage (she aimed to edit her film like a piece by Pina, and it certainly gives that feel of attending to contemporary dance). She compared Pina to Celine (who I happen to be reading!) and how the work -- the end result -- is what matters. But those questions are never really resolved?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 May 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link

Three years too late, I know, but that circle dance scene described above is from Portrait of a Young Girl at the End of the 60s in Brussels.

― Cherish, Monday, August 13, 2012 3:41 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Almost two years too late on me, but THANK YOU!

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 May 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link

Ha, you're welcome. Slow but steady... There should be a Jeanne Dielman joke in here somewhere. :)

Cherish, Friday, 23 May 2014 11:34 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Looks great, on tonight:

https://www.ica.org.uk/whats-on/nos-amours-chantal-akerman-11-golden-eighties

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 July 2014 09:59 (nine years ago) link

The musical about the shopping mall? I like it.

I Need Andmoreagain (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 July 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

eight months pass...

Jeanne Dielmann is playing Friday in 35mm and I want to go but if I couldn't even sit through Celine & Julie Go Boating w/o getting extremely bored I feel like this is going to be TORTUROUS. Any tips of things to focus on or contemplate while watching this film that will make it tolerable? Should I sit in the back of the theater where no one sits and like idk work on stuff during the slow bits?

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link

whatever you do, don't take a bathroom break 15 mins before the end.

compare the multiple times she performs her kitchen tasks and goes to the post office.

also this kicks the shit out of Celine & Julie.

idk work on stuff during the slow bits?

NO NO NO, the slow bits are i dunno, 98% of the film, and also the point.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link

I knew the ending of the film before I saw it and personally it helped me to focus on the deviations to her routine and where it leads.

Chris L, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:24 (nine years ago) link

i know nothing about the film or its ending apart from it's about a woman and she does mundane household things and maybe also is a prostitute, idk, i want to know AS LITTLE about it as possible

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link

i never take bathroom breaks during movies so

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link

No need to compare Akerman to Celine & Julie, they are going for a diff thing althogether.

Even if you know the ending (and I did) the execution is still amazing thing to sit through. Have fun!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link

well i mean i compared them bcz they are v long and v slowly paced. The other two Akerman films I've seen (Toute un Nuit and Rendesvous d'Anna) were kind of... boring... but I watched them on TVs so they weren't v immersive.

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link

I feel like smoking a bowl beforehand would either be THE BEST or THE WORST idea, possibly the latter bcz when I tried to watch a Bela Tarr film stoned I wanted to claw my fucking eyes out.

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link

as you might guess i vote no there.

it's not boring.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link

I watched the Eclipse prints of Je tu il elle and Les Rendez-vous d'Anna two weeks: lovely.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link

I'd never seen the latter (liked a lot) and the former not since 16 mm in college.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link

Je tu il elle

This was given a few screenings about a week ago in a few cinemas over here. Didn't go - glad to have seen it, although I never quite liked it that much myself. The season at the ICA goes on and on, a few interesting films to come. Even though she made her best film in the mid-70s Akerman has clearly made one great film after another.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 23:22 (nine years ago) link

this movie got me really amped up about housekeeping

chinavision!, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 23:54 (nine years ago) link

also it was not boring at all. the photography is really addictive

chinavision!, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 23:54 (nine years ago) link

it's at the level of low activity that becomes hypnotic and engrossing

chinavision!, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 23:55 (nine years ago) link

I don't know why Morbs get so crabby. If there was one movie made for which viewers can perform purely functional habits besides Warhol's entire filmography it's Jeanne Dielmann.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 March 2015 00:00 (nine years ago) link

I vote no on functional habits since it would ruin the spell

chinavision!, Thursday, 19 March 2015 00:07 (nine years ago) link

Inhaling Pledge fumes from the newly clean coffee table >> popcorn

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 March 2015 00:08 (nine years ago) link

china & morbs otm; it really isn't boring, stevie. you get kind of hypnotically involved. celine & julie's a broad thing & this is a very specific, narrower & richer thing.

really don't think you need prep but i really adore reading christine smallwood talk about watching it-

People used to fret about the “masses” using the movies as “escapism.” It is actually supremely difficult to escape into a movie. The impulse to send texts during a movie, or the power of the smallest square of light to distract everyone in a six-seat vicinity, is proof of this. Besides: escape from what? Into what? When I watch movies, I have a running internal monologue of thoughts like, “What would I do if I had to clean all day?” or “Do I look that good when I smoke?” The human brain does not turn off so easily. The drive to identify with narrative, to insert oneself into the story, the basic desire to be in that story, is boundless. That’s not escapism, that’s participation. And even if you can stop identifying, you’re still thinking—if not of something else, then at least of something also. As Chris Fujiwara has written, in a piece called “The Force of the Useless,” “it’s impossible to concentrate entirely on a film or on one’s self.”

The whole point of going to the movies in the first place is to experience this slide. It’s to have the freedom to be thinking in tandem with the film—really, to be thinking at all. At home, it is nearly impossible not to interrupt viewing—to pause, to get a drink of water, go to the bathroom, to check email, yes, to send a text. In the theater you are captive, or you should be, and so your mind ranges more freely, because it traverses the same course, bouncing against those images, again and again, back and forth, until it arrives at last at someplace new.

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 19 March 2015 00:22 (nine years ago) link

I've been saying that for years *drinks water*

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 March 2015 00:26 (nine years ago) link

In the theatre if you pull your phone to text I can tell you to fkn stop it.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 March 2015 11:35 (nine years ago) link

no no no i mean at this theater the back 15 rows are always empty and I turn the brightness all the way down so there is no possible way that anyone could see it.

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 March 2015 12:35 (nine years ago) link

WATCH THE FILM as the Mekons insisted u goddamn Sotosyn. In the dark. Eyes front.

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link

but I'm a millenial with ADD and I get bored so easily

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link

how can you expect me to spend 90+ minutes engaging with only ONE SCREEN???

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link

don't make me quote the druggist in West Side Story about "you kids"

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link

Do it, it'll be funny.

WilliamC, Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link

The first time I saw JD (which was the only time I saw it projected, albeit from a digital source) the copy didn't have subtitles, which added to the claustrophobia. That, and these two people sitting in the back of the theatre who were chatting in French for about 75% of the runtime. It was easy to think of them as Jeanne's noisy neighbors.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 March 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link

too bad they didn't show up before the last client

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 March 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link

this is a great movie but i don't get why you would watch it in a cinema if you're already determined on not paying attention

groovemaaan, Thursday, 19 March 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link

Well, if that wasn't the best car chase scene this side of French Connection...

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 21 March 2015 03:08 (nine years ago) link

That was infinity more pleasant to watch than I imagined. I longed so much to know this person, what made her laugh, what her favorite food was, what she's thinking... It was really bleak and painful.

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 21 March 2015 03:10 (nine years ago) link

six months pass...

:(

drash, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 10:40 (eight years ago) link

Wow. I finally caught up with her last year after the release of those exemplary Criterion releases.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 10:44 (eight years ago) link

:-(

She was coming to London to give a masterclass and there was also an exhibition coming up.

http://www.anosamours.co.uk/

New film out soon too.

Can anyone read French, how did she pass away?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 10:45 (eight years ago) link

This is at the end of a near two-year retrospective of pretty much all of her work at (mostly) the ICA (one film a month).

Can't believe this.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 10:47 (eight years ago) link

Can someone post further confirmation when they see it?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 10:50 (eight years ago) link

One of her protégées/disciples/what have you is at NYFF right now.

That Thin, Wild Mercury Poisoning (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 11:33 (eight years ago) link

:(

rest in peace.

The link above just says more details forthcoming.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 11:55 (eight years ago) link

aargh wrong thread sorry.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 12:34 (eight years ago) link

According to Le Monde it was a suicide. Such sad news.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 12:42 (eight years ago) link

oh no

drash, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 12:45 (eight years ago) link

I love Taxi Driver but I'm not so sure it belongs. Feels like that serve as more of an element in the psychodrama that's going on around Bickle.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 19:05 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Blind Spot (Von Alemann, 1981)

This film was on MUBI a few days ago. It's much less interesting as a narrative of a feminist researcher but there were so many great shots worthy of Ackerman. The corridors, the narrow streets, the spacious rooms, the corners, the restaurant. I recommend it as a follow-up

xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 June 2023 08:31 (ten months ago) link

four months pass...

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