TRUE DETECTIVE on hbo - Season Two

your reason for being disappointed was odd and nonsensical too so

ah damn she'd be great with NP's dialogue. plus I think she's really pretty.

your reason for being disappointed was odd and nonsensical too so

I was hardly the only person worried about ZD30 pt 2, believe me.

i mean... a character that would most likely be a detective trying to solve a murder is KINDA like a cia operative trying to find osama bin laden but unless she, like, wore the same shades and played the character with the exact same mannerisms it seems like a pretty pointless thing to worry about.

how can we trust this actress with a yet-to-exist new role knowing there is a chance that she might accidentally play it exactly like one of her former roles

I hope she doesn't play it exactly like her part in Tree of Life, flouncing around in a windy house filled with flowing white curtains.

I need to not be on ilx I think.

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True Detective Season 2 starring Paulie Shore and whichever Baldwin brother is sober enough to answer the phone. It could take place in a biodome or backstage at MTV spring break '93

hey weird my friend just texted me to say he's at his gym and spotted paulie shore working out there

That's almost as surprising as finding out shore is still alive. I assumed he just vaporized at midnight on NYE 2000

If you want to see Chastain in True Detective, just watch this movie

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Texas Killing Fields: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1389127/

thought about the killing fields a lot in relation to season 1. I have to imagine it inspired the show to an extent. It's impossibly grim though.

Weren't they going to set S2 in a metro? I kinda prefer it rural, because cop show in NYC or LA is the boringest of tropes at this point.

A rust belt city might be fun.

Houston would be an amazing choice but too close to Louisiana I suppose.

yeah Pizzolatto has said that S2 will take place in Los Angeles and will be about "the secret occult history of the United States transportation system," so i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that it will be more in line with the first season than just a generic LA noir thing. xp

"the secret occult history of the United States transportation system,"

I'm in.

i have a suspicious that this will be totally amazing and even better than season one because i think there's a tendency for writers or artists to sort of exhale and realize once they get their dream project realized and then that often leads to a surge of creativity. the possibilities expand.

realize = relax

It's not like creepy hillbilly noir is particularly fresh at this point either.

"the secret occult history of the United States transportation system,"

so, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

Toon Detective

he didn't say Los Angeles specifically, just hinted at southern California

and Fukunaga said, "The next season, I think, has to do with something industrial in California."

feels like detroit is a missed opportunity but maybe that's just me

i'm still rooting for Helsinki in the 70's

i mean, of all the cities in america detroit is easily the one i could see some serious noir/gothic/nearly metaphysical cult shit go down since it's basically thunderdome at this point

Even when Detroit wasn't halfway to a ghost town, it had some of the best architecture in the country and should've been the home to more shows.

agreed, and now that it has that 'ghost of a town' feel to it, it seems like a sure thing.

there's always Herzog's lieutenant

first description of s2 plotline put me in mind of lot 49

New Orleans would be also an acceptable option though it was already kind of part of S1

s1 kind of was a gritty remake of who framed roger rabbit when u really think about it

if only they had conceived an ending half as terrifying as WFRR's

being steamrollered by cliche was still quite upsetting tbf

ugh ugh ugh woody Jessica rabbit aghhhh

i have a suspicious that this will be totally amazing and even better than season one because i think there's a tendency for writers or artists to sort of exhale and realize once they get their dream project realized and then that often leads to a surge of creativity. the possibilities expand.

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yes, the "sophomore slump" is definitely not a thing

something tells me you won't be terribly predisposed to like season two.

i would actually be totes happy if it was good. prove me wrong n-piz!

sending positive vibes to NP

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^ true detective season 3

Salton Sea would be cool.

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"I'm gettin' too old for this shit"

California love

http://www.mtv.com/news/1832253/true-detective-season-2-location/

"And we're going to try to capture a certain psychosphere ambiance of the place, much like we did in season one."

fuck, this dude says "psychosphere" irl

i listened to the interview with him
he says vuh-he-cle in a kinda mcconaugheyish way also

i think ozzy had a psychosphere on the ultimate sin tour in 86

i first saw cronencrash in college amongst an audience of holly hunter obsessed would-be-degenerates who, based on the marketing, somehow thought it would be porn adjacent. we all walked away very confused.

"paul greencrash"

I love that

Oddly enough what upset me the most was the incomprehensibility of the plotting, I was already angry about the Ledo-methlab weirdness, the "the secret to solving this case is in finding that random sex worker" weirdness... then, it was a "oh surely these random illegitimate children are the culprits and they have the hard drive" moment made me punch the couch angrily in a way I haven't since James Hurley spent three episodes in a soap opera

My defining Cronenmoment was being invited by my roommates at age 18 to go see a screening of "Dead Ringers", I had randomly seen "M Butterfly" but that's all I knew about this director, and that Genevieve Bujold was Janeway Mk. 1

We all walked out of the movie in a state of bewildered shock and despite being general non-drinkers we all agreed we needed beers right away and did so

A week later I was looking at TV Guide and I saw that "Dead Ringers" was scheduled. The entry read like "Dead Ringers (Cronenburg, 1990), horror" and I shouted to my roommate "hey Ian I figured out that movie, it was a horror film" and Ian yelled back "ohhhhhhhhhhh now I get it"

*just googled it, 1988 not 1990

james hurley and everyone else spent a lot longer than that in a soap opera tbf

forgot about the random illegitimate children lol. i mean i forgot all the plot, just faces and rooms and rick springfield’s tie/shirt-buttons situation

"alien gynecological tools" is the phrase i'll always associate with dead ringers

Sorry if I got it twisted, I thought we were talking about non-Cronenberg Crash

I have not seen Cronenberg Crash

the mystery does not matter and in fact it's good that it ends in anticlimax

like, the mystery doesn't matter in twin peaks either btw

this “something else”— the wrong interpretation of the clues— is what we call the world

for me literally all of the enjoyment is in the atmosphere, the photography, and the performances. the incomprehensibility of the plotting actually makes the show vibrate with extra surreal energy, even though it evaporates from the mind with every progression... again, feature, not flaw

oh wait i also love all of the nonsense in the dialogue, as i stated above

I kinda feel like true detective s2 walked so Too Old to Die Young could fuck

"you have one of the largest auras i've ever seen. it's taking up this whole room"

This is why Brad is one of the best posters; his enthusiasm is very contagious even when I fucking hate him for using it for evil.

my pronouns are they/them btw (no need to apologize)

and i am not using my powers for evil, everyone here is capable of not watching the thing they think is bad, and i walk a lonely road

I watched it because you thought it was good! and to your credit I'm glad I did if only because I think it finally cured me of my Colin Farrell allergy and I might be able to finish The New World at last

then it served its purpose

ok seen first two episodes, and i'm sort of enjoying it. the morass of psychosexual collapse as a foundation for everything that's going on is quite palpable, which is good. the sense of people being on the edge works. aerial shots of freeways and intersections are unfortunately not enough to connect place to that morass, which is a shame. vince vaughan is a totally empty vessel, a complete void of acting and presence, but that in itself is sort of ok for who he is. there's an internal and meta sense of 'what the fuck are we participating in'. skating badly around in a messy, degraded chandler landscape of cheap casinos.

could it be very much better - yes by god, but yes actually quite enjoying it. i wonder if it was partly fucked over by being a follow up to true detective. it's a different sort of animal.

and they have a *lot* of fun with interior decoration. the bel air mayor's pad is great.

This revive is reminding me that I really wish Too Old To Die Young was available on DVD, because I want to see it and will never get Amazon Prime

Thats the stuff fizzles take it as it is and theres a hollow dread to it, and tbh vaughn delivers as it goes on

Interested what you think the farther you get into it. My first post in this thread, after a couple of episodes, was positive too. By the end, I was exhausted.

The acting was really good imo. Some of those monologues were super-clunky but they (esp Semyon and his girlfriend) sold it well

The monologues were almost showily awful, like it cannot have been purely incompetence imo

aerial shots of freeways and intersections are unfortunately not enough to connect place to that morass, which is a shame

I felt the opposite, in its attempt at being a Great California Novel. It felt like so many strands of California fit into the story, from agriculture to casinos to cults to the landscapes. I wish the Guerneville/Bohemian Grove sections either had a greater sense of place/location or were moved to somewhere plausible in SoCal.

Also, maybe it was shared way up above, but the NY Times did a good story on Vernon, CA.

I felt the opposite, in its attempt at being a Great California Novel. It felt like so many strands of California fit into the story, from agriculture to casinos to cults to the landscapes. I wish the Guerneville/Bohemian Grove sections either had a greater sense of place/location or were moved to somewhere plausible in SoCal.

interesting. there was a bit where they were going to interview someone out by some crop irrigation, and i did think that it was good the way they were weaving in hard industry (toxic waste), casino and prostitution and driver services, crime and cults. so, yes, in fact i think you're right. i guess i felt that it didn't quite map on to a topography for me, which might have made it more powerful. oddly you get very little sense of them driving along via those intersections. unlike the first TD, there's perhaps not so much external sense of them driving.

Yeah, the first episode, ending with that amazing shot of the crime scene pulling away off the coast at sunrise, sets up the show for having a greater sense of how areas connect, rather than cutting from one to the next with the same freeway shots.

well too old to die young sure is something, like taking all the boring parts of td2 and patiently stretching them into taffy. thx brad and thread

seems like as good a place as any for this

Set the Night on Fire: LA in the Sixties

Los Angeles in the sixties was a hotbed of political and social upheaval. The city was a launchpad for Black Power—where Malcolm X and Angela Davis first came to prominence and the Watts uprising shook the nation. The city was home to the Chicano Blowouts and Chicano Moratorium, as well as being the birthplace of “Asian American” as a political identity. It was a locus of the antiwar movement, gay liberation movement, and women’s movement, and, of course, the capital of California counterculture.

Mike Davis and Jon Wiener provide the first comprehensive movement history of L.A. in the sixties, drawing on extensive archival research and dozens of interviews with principal figures, as well as the authors’ storied personal histories as activists. Following on from Davis’s awardwinning L.A. history, City of Quartz, Set the Night on Fire is a historical tour de force, delivered in scintillating and fiercely beautiful prose.

“The familiar, monochromatic picture of Los Angeles in the sixties—all Hollywood pop and Didion ennui—required a million people of African, Asian, and Mexican ancestry to be ‘edited out of utopia,’ as Mike Davis and Jon Wiener put it. What those people actually did, alongside antiwar feminists, high school students, and others, is the heart of this book, and it’s a big heart. No one could tell these intersecting stories better than Davis and Wiener, and their book gives us back a great city’s greatness in its movements, edges, and other centers, so many of them forgotten.”

I don't know, maybe those people could have told their own stories better than Davis and Wiener. We'll never know, though, will we?

i hope they’ve got a good bibliography of primary sources. but i liked mike davis’ city of quartz v much (still need to finish it ofc) and may give this a go. my god my reading backlog though :/

“This angst cop drama you’ve got goin’ on”

Did everyone watching this report back, im v curious as to how the endings stick

with your angst cop drama and your cocaine tongue
you get nothing done

I feel like this season is conscious of how ridiculous it often is (and I like that)

i have paused on this, but will be returning.

Re-watching this now for the first time since it was new and liking it a lot.

Every time you watch this show Anthony Kiedis reproduces a clone (asexually, but you never know).

liked it the second time around much much better


maybe they shouldn’t have called it True Detective idk

Seriously; just calling it Nick Lottapizza's California Noir would have been just fine.

happy to have been on the right side of history for this one