HANNIBAL on NBC seems amazing and therefore deserves it's own thread!

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"Run Rob Stafford and Allison Rosati! The steampunk werewolf is on the loose!"

carl agatha, Sunday, 18 May 2014 03:52 (nine years ago) link

i thought for a moment that hannibal gassed verger with tiny bees & was like WHOOOA

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 May 2014 03:56 (nine years ago) link

Bryan Fuller on getting stuff past the censors:

The A.V. Club: As a showrunner, how do you talk to Standards And Practices about a scene where a guy cuts off his own face and eats his own nose?

Bryan Fuller: [Laughs.] There was a heads-up that we called in, and Joanna Jameson, who is our executive that covers Hannibal, has been incredible for teaching us how we can get away with what we want to get away with, while still coloring within the lines of Standards And Practices. It started with an email to her about how we have this nasty bit of business where somebody’s going to cut off their face and continue to have a conversation about it in the process, and we want to make sure we are vivid and true to the source material, which all happened in a bit of a flashback, so I knew, creatively, that we were going to be doing something slightly different than how it was presented in the novel, because circumstances were slightly different. She basically advised us that darkness is our friend, and as much as we wanted to show could be shown as long as it was in silhouette. For me, I knew that I didn’t want to have Michael Pitt with half of his face hanging off for most of the scene, because then it kind of loses its value. So, it became the negotiation of why not have him doing most of this stuff in the shadow and then step forward into illumination where you can just see the staggering level of damage that he’s done to himself.

When we submitted it, I don’t think we got dinged on that scene. The scene that we got dinged on in that episode was when Will Graham cuts Hannibal’s throat in the fantasy sequence, when he’s thinking about what he wants to have happen from telling Mason Verger that Hannibal wants to kill him. We had one shot in there that went on too long, in terms of the wave of arterial spray that was coming out of Hannibal’s neck. That was the one we got bumped on in that episode, but not any of the face carving.

Roz, Sunday, 18 May 2014 08:53 (nine years ago) link

also, re the "Margot and her button-stitching" line from two episodes ago: https://twitter.com/BryanFuller/status/462468066941890560

Roz, Sunday, 18 May 2014 09:01 (nine years ago) link

Bryan Fuller: [Laughs.]

j., Sunday, 18 May 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

you can show a dude with his face all cut off but can't say "muff diving." what a world.

a strange man (mh), Sunday, 18 May 2014 14:33 (nine years ago) link

The gorgeous distorted tunnel vision shots of Will and Hannibal! The laughs! The fact that I, a total gore wimp, can not look away for a second! Oooh, this show!

Three Word Username, Sunday, 18 May 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link

BF: We had set up this whole storyline with Bedelia that we were going to do in this episode, and it is only due to Gillian Anderson’s absolute dedication to the show, because she was doing Crisis and The Fall concurrently with this. We had no business getting her back at all, and the way it worked out is that she had one day between finishing Crisis before starting The Fall, so she literally wrapped production on Crisis Saturday morning at, like, 3 a.m. or 4 a.m., got on a 9 a.m. flight from Chicago to Toronto, landed in Toronto at 10, and was on stage, in front of the camera, by noon. And we had her for six hours before she had to catch her next plane, so she could arrive in Ireland to get her wardrobe fitting on Sunday before she started shooting The Fall on Monday. It was crazy that we got her, and it was only because she was like, “I love this character. I love working on this show. I’m treated very well on this show. I want to come back and continue to be Hannibal Lecter’s therapist, because it’s a ball.”

<3 GA

Mordy, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 05:17 (nine years ago) link

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

carl agatha, Saturday, 24 May 2014 03:00 (nine years ago) link

Well, that was a bloody depressing finale. Bets on who survives and who dies in the house? I bet Abigail is the only one who actually dies.

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Saturday, 24 May 2014 03:44 (nine years ago) link

Wow that was nuts

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Saturday, 24 May 2014 05:16 (nine years ago) link

Fuck me

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Saturday, 24 May 2014 05:17 (nine years ago) link

god damn internet tv lagtimes this is an emergency

j., Saturday, 24 May 2014 05:32 (nine years ago) link

I remember a review with Fuller during or just after Season 1 where he said Season 3 would be Red Dragon, and I totally bought that as the inevitable end of this season, so I'm wondering if he changed his mind or if he's just been all "imma long con these fans lol" since the beginning.

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Saturday, 24 May 2014 05:42 (nine years ago) link

BRYAN FUCKING FULLER. This is just revenge for all the shows that he's had to cancel early over the years right? Just go totally bonkers in season two?

Roz, Saturday, 24 May 2014 06:39 (nine years ago) link

that was unexpected

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Saturday, 24 May 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link

Holy shit at the Bedelia reveal! She really pulled a number on Jack and Will.

xelab, Saturday, 24 May 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link

so will didn't kill abigail either? jesus did anyone on this show ever die

wat is teh waht (s.clover), Saturday, 24 May 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link

Don't see Beverly coming back

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Saturday, 24 May 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link

sniff

j., Saturday, 24 May 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

note to self: no one is dead unless you see a doctor pronounce them on camera.

also, where is this show going???

building a desert (art), Saturday, 24 May 2014 19:13 (nine years ago) link

fuuucking hell what the fuck did I just watch

O_O

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 May 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link

this show is like the serial killer version of The Grifters

fuckin Bedelia even! goddamn

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 May 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

i actually didn't dig the ep that much, storytelling was nonexistent

j., Saturday, 24 May 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link

The storytelling was all in Mads Mikkelsen's face, which can somehow tell you a million things without actually moving a muscle. The moment when he realises that Will is going through with the plan to betray him is weirdly heartbreaking.

Roz, Saturday, 24 May 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link

also

"Hannibal!... Where's Jack?"
"In the pantry."

Roz, Saturday, 24 May 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link

i can get that, it's just, so many episodes have this very statuesque dramatic structure (if that artistic combo makes sense), and this one…

maybe i'm thinking of tracer hand's (mark s's?) legendary mise-en-scene

j., Saturday, 24 May 2014 22:48 (nine years ago) link

I love the way Mads moves as violent Hannibal, lightning quick & precise

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 May 2014 23:44 (nine years ago) link

"The moment when he realises that Will is going through with the plan to betray him is weirdly heartbreaking."

He sniffs at Will and detects some trace of Abigail, this bit was so creepy.

xelab, Sunday, 25 May 2014 01:51 (nine years ago) link

^ freddie

j., Sunday, 25 May 2014 02:11 (nine years ago) link

oh yeah freddie.

xelab, Sunday, 25 May 2014 02:13 (nine years ago) link

yeah that hair thing was freaky

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 May 2014 02:36 (nine years ago) link

so...abby was in hannibal's attic all this time? or...

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 May 2014 02:36 (nine years ago) link

?

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 May 2014 02:36 (nine years ago) link

she was in his custody somehow, that's pretty much all that is known

building a desert (art), Sunday, 25 May 2014 02:43 (nine years ago) link

sous chef maybe idk

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 May 2014 02:50 (nine years ago) link

Fuller's post-finale: http://www.avclub.com/article/hannibals-bryan-fuller-discusses-bloody-jaw-droppi-204896

he explains Bedelia's motivations a bit, also suggests that Beverly found Abigail in the basement before she was killed.

Roz, Sunday, 25 May 2014 05:22 (nine years ago) link

BF: [Laughs.]

j., Sunday, 25 May 2014 13:47 (nine years ago) link

xp - i am stoked beyond words that season 3 is meant to explore the lecter backstory.

building a desert (art), Sunday, 25 May 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link

Glad Fuller doesn't like Hannibal Rising

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Sunday, 25 May 2014 14:33 (nine years ago) link

plus the actual Hannibal origin story doesn't work given the temporal impossibility of Mads having escaped the Nazis on the eastern front

building a desert (art), Sunday, 25 May 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link

Doesn't seem to stop the keepers of the X-Men movie franchise

a strange man (mh), Monday, 26 May 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link

heh "silence on the lam"

r|t|c, Monday, 26 May 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link

i spent ten hours of this show waiting for a payoff the episode seemed to promise, like, 'jack is stabbed but puts a door between himself and hannibal - what happens to jack next?'

'jack bleeds out'

great thanks show

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Monday, 26 May 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link

*first episode

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Monday, 26 May 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link

The "payoff" has been the crowning glory of this series, the last few episodes were very strong and that was easily the best conclusion of any series in recent times. Whatever you were waiting for was never going to arrive.

xelab, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 00:08 (nine years ago) link

hardmanned over network tv

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 05:27 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/ZooHannibal

Roz, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 05:40 (nine years ago) link


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