Interstellar: Nolan, McConaughey

fuck christopher nolan, fuck this movie, and fuck both its threads

― verhzleyavbtreleambreb (imago), Friday, May 16, 2014 8:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you said it better though

christ this really is the Teal-iest.

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is that someone getting their hip fucked?

The wife and daughter are dressed so teal!

What annoys me about the premise of this movie is that we are realistically stuck in this biosphere and who gaf about us polluting other galaxies with our dna? I would rather see a movie in which we accepted we deserve annihilation and decided to cease from propagating this lie that we need to keep going on like we are superior to "non sentient" life and us surviving the destruction of this planet is sacrosanct.

i watched nausicaa of the valley of the wind last night and that sounds like yr jam

There are a lot of planets out there

and we could presumably learn our lesson after the first one. Maybe that's just the way things evolve. Home planet deterioration out paces intelligence?

Every branch gets one second chance?

"There are a lot of planets out there"

They are out of reach and 99.99999% inhospitable to us whilst we destroy this beautiful planet, lets entertain fairytale notions of escape, if you want.

Yeah, so it's disgusting to excuse current behavior on that hope. But I also see the human species desire for survival in a more positive light is all.

Not having a go at you, just loathe the whole premise of this movie and humanity.

haha!

i'm cool w the fantasy of interstellar exploration (man rocket seeds ur galaxy hole), but this still looks dopey as shit

it seems very important to Nolan that he be "relevant" and Addressing the Issues of Our Time.

Batman begins was good!

haven't seen insomnia but every Nolan movie up til the dark knight rises was at least good (DKR was almost a total disaster the more I think about it considering how strong the first two were.) inception I guess was the movie that really brought out his worst tendencies for some people but idk it was entertaining mumbo jumbo. Def will see this.

Loved Insomnia, actually.

insomnia sucked btw

:(

it seems very important to Nolan that he be "relevant" and Addressing the Issues of Our Time.

― display name changed. (amateurist), Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:01 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's also important that we have sexy billionaires

Honestly I don't care how stupid this movie is or isn't. I will see it anyway.

^^^

Insomnia was a great movie which is why i'm never subjecting myself to Nolan's version of it

does anyone else have the same Nolan experiences that i've had where you see the movie and you have a lot of fun and think "man, that was neat, why are people shitting on this?" and then you see it a second time and realize it actually does totally fucking suck? that's me with every single one of his movies.

yeah, it's uncanny

catching up on this thread and, yeah, that Vulture article is rage-making. i mean, if someone actually got paid real money in 2014 for typing this sentence...

Come on — get in our belly, that movie.

then maybe the death of journalism won't be such a bad thing at all

that's incredible

does anyone else have the same Nolan experiences that i've had where you see the movie and you have a lot of fun and think "man, that was neat, why are people shitting on this?" and then you see it a second time and realize it actually does totally fucking suck? that's me with every single one of his movies.

― circa1916, Sunday, May 18, 2014 4:12 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

absolutely. i think Nolan's films (especially TDK) are very effective and keeping you in such an agitated state that you don't have much mental space to think about the inanities of the plot and characterizations, the frequent limpness of the style, etc. when i saw TDK for the first time, in IMAX, I was shaken up (although my mind kind of bailed at the cross-cutting in the climactic sequence). when I saw it the 2nd time (also in the theater), the thing almost fell completely apart.

an even more drastic example of this was the hurt locker, which was just robbed of all power the 2nd time I saw it, meaning that all it really is, is a vehicle for the easiest sort of suspense. the rest of it is just window dressing.

titanic also had the same effect on me, with an added wrinkle. the 1st and 2nd times i saw it were in the theater, and i the emotion really washed over me. a few years later, i watched it at a friend's apartment on VHS, and the movie just seemed laughable. i chalk that up largely to the relative effects of a big screen + sympathetic audience vs. tiny screen + cynical audience, but I also think it also revealed some basic limitations of the film.

that said, the prestige kind of rewarded a re-viewing. which the plot clearer in mind, i could see how some aspects of the narrative were ingenious. other things just grated a lot more, though.

i just can't get worked up one way or another about Inception. I wasn't terribly bothered by all the exposition, but the visual incoherence of the action scenes toward the end just threw me out of the film entirely.

i kind of think his films would be better if he had lower budgets.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/07/30/interstellar-full-trailer/

I'm a little hesitant

but that opening line is v v good imo

pretty psyched tbqf. i like that the cast is generally not nolan's usual crew, beyond caine and i suppose hathaway to some extent. leah cairns is in this!

it's nolan so there's no way this can be anything but a disappointment right?

he's hit and miss but I dunno he's still interesting. I hated Inception, never saw DKR.

'the dark knight rises' is genuinely worse than inception

i thought 'the dark knight' was pretty incredible and i liked 'inception'

inception was an exquisitely-crafted turd. DKR was pretty much the same except minus the exquisite craft.

i don't want to go over my problems with DKR again but it's amazing what a fully-realized world nolan created in DK and what a half-baked underpopulated movie set-seeming world he crapped out with DKR.

^ OTM. It's like his heart wasn't in it.

I liked Inception and upon subsequent viewings it has held up way better than I thought it would.

My favorite thing he's done is still The Prestige.

looks exhausting

That was along the lines of what I was thinking..."Is this movie six hours long?"

Still, I wanna see it.

it's nolan so there's no way this can be anything but a disappointment right?

― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:34 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if you accept that he's a terrible filmmaker who makes shitty movies and will never stop making shitty movies you'll never be disappointed you'll just hate yourself after

want to be excited for this but def not in the mood for sentimental testimonies to the indomitable human-spirit/power-of-love these days.

it's nolan so there's no way this can be anything but a disappointment right?

lol almost like being disappointed in Obama

ignoring the all-star cast, the trailer offers nothin but schmaltzy kitsch. armageddon 2

this was nice

makes u think

well, we're plowing through movies during the pandemic, so....

maybe the best example of the nolan thing where if you tell me the macro executive summary idea of the movie i'd say yeah, sure, i'm all in. but then i hate almost every individual choice he makes along the way. this movie takes place in 2060something but everyone is driving well-maintained c. 2004 dodge trucks? the only crop is corn but someone is served a regular-ass sandwich at one point?

nolan's arrogance is basically that he thinks he knows how to make some things important while minimizing other things in a way that he thinks the audience will never notice. that's how you make a move that makes it seem like the dylan thomas poem is some sort of undiscovered masterpiece while presenting a future earth that doesn't make any sense at all if you think about it for 30 seconds.

the slab robots were cool. there were some good exterior space shots. the rest of it was nonsense.

My wife calls this film Matthew McConaughey in the Closet.

Nolan definitely coasts a lot on elliptical but not quite fully explored Big Ideas disguised by high concepts or time jumps or that sort of thing at the expense of coherence. At the time I did like this movie, but I haven't seen it since opening weekend. I did (completely coincidentally) watch the first 10 or so minutes of Inception with my daughter last night (it was a punchline in an episode of Community we'd just watched, and she said it was a punchline in The Office, too) and I can tell the po-faced hand waving (and furrowed-brow DiCaprio thinking so hard) is going to be a problem when I try to explain what's going on.

Murph!!!!!

I thought the overbearing music was used to give the dialogue an unearned emotional depth. I think if there was a cut of this movie with no music it would be even clearer how comically bad much of the dialogue really is.

McConaughey is more orange than Trump

orange man sad

okay now this is driving me nuts, there is some big obvious precedent for the 'oh god i am the ghost!' twist and i cannot place it. in the one i'm thinking of it's more of a horror moment, guy realizes he was in all these other scenes and he's shouting and no one can hear him, no no no, don't do it... fuck what is this i'm thinking of? i guess it could just be a twilight zone episode or something but i feel like there's a VERY big movie that has this exact same bit and now i just feel like an idiot for not being able to name it.

I watched Interstellar last night and had the exact same reaction!
I also came up with Cypher but that's not quite the same. Maybe Timecrimes

Anyway I actually enjoyed this loads, despite the frustrating bits and dumb things. I think mainly because of the robots.
Is there any Nolan film that doesn't basically have the theme "Ahh, but you did it to yourself"?

"Ahh, but you did it to yourself"? is how you feel if you pay for a ticket to one of his movies

I watched this on a plane recently and honestly, what a weird mishmash of a film? I stg I groaned audibly at the ending where it turns out the secret of gravity is love (or some shit). Enjoyed Matt Damon being obviously evil, the whole thing is an occasionally interesting mess and visually stunning ofc but it did kill three hours

And yes. Everyone living on the upside down planet at the end is a load of shit

okay now this is driving me nuts, there is some big obvious precedent for the 'oh god i am the ghost!' twist and i cannot place it. in the one i'm thinking of it's more of a horror moment, guy realizes he was in all these other scenes and he's shouting and no one can hear him, no no no, don't do it... fuck what is this i'm thinking of? i guess it could just be a twilight zone episode or something but i feel like there's a VERY big movie that has this exact same bit and now i just feel like an idiot for not being able to name it.

I watched Interstellar last night and had the exact same reaction!
I also came up with Cypher but that's not quite the same. Maybe Timecrimes

Triangle

This is exactly the plot of The Others tbh

Although why I'm putting spoiler tags in for a 20 year old film I don't know.

I watched Voices today and it has this as the plot twist at the end too except it's the wife who has been seeing the ghosts all the way through, and David Hemmings is adamant it's her mental state (having had EST and attempting suicide after the death of their son). Although it's him that realises they're dead first.

Very much a TV vibe in the way it's shot too.

plus, if it really was 7 years for every hour, the data would effectively only be a couple hours old at that point. you'd think they would know that and maybe not risk everything to save it

classic Fred B post:

Frederik B
Posted: 2 December 2014 at 22:32:16

I was surprised by how much I liked this, and it reminded me why I like The Prestige and The Dark Knight and The Following so much. I really like Nolan, and I wish all mainstream directors were like him.

lol wins

scientist: now think. what's a circle in three dimensions?
engineer: (thinks for a few seconds) ...a sphere!

i had to reread the plot on Wikipedia to sort this out, but: Hathaway and McConaughey suffered all the same time dilations. the first big one is when they both go to the stupid water planet, after which the daughter is adult Jessica Chastain. the second one happens I THINK because they slingshot around the black hole, which brings daughter up to death's door.

at this point McC heads into the black hole and Hathaway heads for her old flame's planet. he spends a while transmitting messages back in time to Chastain-Daughter, enabling her to start shipping humanity off Earth en masse. they spend decades building space stations before reaching the point in time where McC and Hathaway are. McC then teleports himself in space (not time) to be picked up by the space station folks, have an underwhelming chitchat with dying daughter, and then head out to meet Hathaway, who has just been setting up shop. i'm not sure why the space station people haven't sent any other missions through the wormhole and beaten her there, but that's the gist of it, I THINK.

I'm out of touch. Is Christopher Nolan "Nolan" or "Christopher Nolan" nowadays? During his heyday I lost touch with pop culture so I've always thought of him as Christopher Nolan, director of Memento and The Prestige. But then he was Nolan, genius director of The Dark Knight and Interstellar. And then he did Dunkirk and we weren't supposed to like him any more.

Looking back at his filmography I have the impression that he was Nolan from 2008-2015 or so, but Christopher Nolan outside that period. He wasn't dominant enough beforehand to be Nolan and now he's something of a fallen star. Like Peter Bogdanovich but with a shallower drop-off.

Is Nolan Nolan or not Nolan? Is there a consensus?

okay, yeah. i thought that the big time zoom between chastain-murph and deathbed-murph was because of big mac going through the black hole but you must be right.

dr c i loved reading your thoughts on the deranged, rushed logic of which planets they looked at first, the lack of any preparation or even curiosity about them before just careening recklessly into their surfaces. weird behaviour from people trained to save the human race.

xpost: idk

This film lost me at solar powered jet drones flying for decades or whatever it was.

there were so many lines like this:

GETTY
They just pack up and leave. What are they hoping to find?

MURPH
Survival.

I just had to google what topher grace’s name was in this, obviously I had no idea.

aww glad to have spread some joy through my annoyance. in hindsight the visuals of this movie really were something, but all the plot developments were like the traps in Home Alone, with Nolan as the kid: he's set them up so those burglars are just gonna have to be stupid enough to walk into all of them.

Only saw this movie once, in the theater. It was gorgeous but kinda ridiculous in a way that Nolan movies typically aren’t quite. Heck, I’ve seen Tenet more than this - somehow I have more fun with that movie.